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[pieisgoo]

What are your favourite race\role combinations? Personally I really like sludge elf transmuters. That and and ghoul chaos knights of Lugonu.

[Leafsnail]

...Woah.

TrBe just went berserk and killed an Iron Devil and a Demonic Crawler.  At level 5.

I have 983xp points, and 775 of those came from the two monsters I just killed...

[Robsoie]

Those Troll Berserker are way easier than any characters, it's nearly unstoppable early and they are certainly the only characters i never died early with, and thanks to his ability to eat whenever he wants, even rotten food, food is not as a problem as one may fear from his ever increasing hunger.
Though in some places it will remain a big problem (slimes/crypts) and you can get your Troll dead starving if you have no large amount of permanent food in your backpack.

On my first game with the 0.7.0 RC i cleaned every floor, the 1st Orc mines without much effort, and died because of hubris in the 2nd Orc mines floor (surrounded by many monsters, i didn't even try to escape despite i could at anytime, and another Troll managed to deliver the final hit to my character).

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.7.0-rc1-2-g9637376 character file.

3113 Agrrug the Chopper (level 9, -6/121 HPs)
             Began as a Troll Berserker on July 17, 2010.
             Was a High Priest of Trog.
             Mangled by a troll (9 damage)
             ... on Level 1 of the Orcish Mines.
             The game lasted 00:26:05 (6407 turns).

Agrrug the Chopper (Troll Berserker)                  Turns: 6407, Time: 00:26:06

HP  -6/121       AC  8     Str 35      Exp: 9/3624 (1), need: 2240
MP   3/3         EV 11     Int  3      God: Trog [*****.]
Gold 577         SH  0     Dex  9      Spells:  0 memorised,  8 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : .   J - +0,+4 battleaxe (freeze) {god gift}
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   s - +2 orc robe {MR}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (shield restricted)
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : .   (helmet restricted)
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   f - +0 elf cloak
Spirit.Shd: .       Stasis     : .   (gloves unavailable)
Sust.Abil.: . .     Rnd.Telep. : .   (boots unavailable)
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   (no amulet)
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .   (no ring)
Gourmand  : +       Ctrl.Flight: .   (no ring)

@: mighty, berserking, very quick, hasted, somewhat resistant to hostile
enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: unfitting armour, claws 3, fast metabolism 3, gourmand, regeneration 2,
saprovore 2, tough skin 2, AC +1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion


You were on level 1 of the Orcish Mines.
You worshipped Trog.
Trog was exalted by your worship.
You were very full.

You visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and saw 10 of its levels.

You collected 557 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 J - a +0,+4 battleaxe of freezing (weapon) {god gift}
Armour
 b - a -1 animal skin
 f - a +0 elven cloak (worn)
 s - a +2 orcish robe of magic resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 n - a wand of flame (7) {unknown}
 w - a wand of magic darts (18) {unknown}
 y - a wand of paralysis (5) {unknown}
 A - a wand of enslavement (9) {unknown}
 E - a wand of paralysis ( {unknown}
Comestibles
 a - 4 meat rations
 h - 4 bread rations
 p - 3 chunks of orc flesh
 q - an apple
 u - a pear
 F - a beef jerky
 H - 3 chunks of orc flesh
Scrolls
 g - a scroll of recharging {unknown}
 k - a scroll of blinking
 m - a scroll of detect curse
 r - 3 scrolls of fear {unknown}
 x - 2 scrolls of teleportation
 z - a scroll of silence
 C - a scroll of magic mapping {unknown}
Jewellery
 i - an uncursed ring of teleportation
Potions
 c - a potion of restore abilities {unknown}
 d - a potion of paralysis {unknown}
 e - 5 potions of healing
 j - a potion of gain dexterity {unknown}
 l - 2 potions of porridge {unknown}
 o - 3 potions of heal wounds {unknown}
 t - a potion of agility {unknown}
 v - a potion of cure mutation {unknown}
 B - a potion of brilliance {unknown}
 D - a potion of might {unknown}
 G - a potion of degeneration {unknown}
 I - a potion of slowing {unknown}


 You had 1 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 4 Fighting
 + Level 7 Axes
 + Level 6 Dodging
 + Level 3 Unarmed Combat


You had 8 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (7/27)             Temple (1/1) D:6             Orc (2/4) D:7

Altars:
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin

Shops:
Orc:2: =


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have claws for hands.
Your metabolism is lightning-fast.
You like to eat raw meat.
You heal very quickly.
You can eat rotten meat.
You are covered in fur (AC +1).
You have very tough skin (AC +2).


Message History

The troll is heavily wounded.
The orc hits you but does no damage. The warg bites you but does no damage.
The warg claws you but does no damage.
The orc hits you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The troll bites you!
You die...

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You could see a troll, a warg, 2 orcs and a goblin.

Vanquished Creatures
  Edmund (D:4)
  2 orc warriors (D:7)
  2 ogres
  A centaur (D:6)
  A gila monster (D:7)
  4 giant frogs
  Blork the orc (D:4)
  A wight (D:7)
  4 imps
  3 hounds
  6 orc priests
  2 scorpions
  6 orc wizards
  7 giant ants
  3 jellies
  13 gnolls
  2 snake skeletons
  A giant mite (D:3)
  5 snakes
  A worm (D:7)
  Terence (D:3)
  11 giant cockroaches
  16 goblins
  16 hobgoblins
  6 jackals
  10 kobolds
  An ooze (D:2)
  51 orcs
  2 quokkas (D:5)
  A small snake (D:3)
  10 giant bats
  5 giant geckos
  9 giant newts
  13 rats
  3 ballistomycetes (D:7)
221 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  Jessica (D:3)
  A giant gecko skeleton (D:5)
  A giant spore (D:7)
  3 toadstools
6 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 227 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place   | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1     | Agrrug, the Troll Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1     | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 0/0
   357 | D:1     | Reached XP level 2. HP: 25/25 MP: 0/0
   862 | D:2     | Acquired Trog's second power
   863 | D:2     | Reached XP level 3. HP: 33/33 MP: 1/1
  1105 | D:2     | Noticed Terence
  1109 | D:2     | Defeated Terence
  1351 | D:3     | Reached skill 4 in Unarmed Combat
  1496 | D:3     | Noticed Sigmund
  1500 | D:3     | Defeated Sigmund
  1500 | D:3     | Reached XP level 4. HP: 40/40 MP: 1/1
  1672 | D:3     | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  1988 | D:3     | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  2008 | D:3     | Reached XP level 5. HP: 48/48 MP: 1/1
  2155 | D:4     | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  2226 | D:5     | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  2317 | D:5     | Reached skill 5 in Unarmed Combat
  2458 | D:5     | Reached XP level 6. HP: 53/55 MP: 2/2
  2479 | D:5     | Slain by an ogre
     0 | D:1     | Agrrug, the Troll Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1     | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 0/0
   273 | D:1     | Reached XP level 2. HP: 4/25 MP: 0/0
   285 | D:1     | HP: 1/25 [giant gecko (4)]
   322 | D:1     | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
   323 | D:1     | You fall through a shaft!
   927 | D:1     | Reached XP level 3. HP: 33/33 MP: 1/1
  1541 | D:2     | Reached skill 1 in Axes
  1746 | D:2     | Reached XP level 4. HP: 27/40 MP: 1/1
  1946 | D:3     | Defeated Jessica
  1997 | D:3     | Noticed Terence
  2002 | D:3     | Defeated Terence
  2439 | D:3     | Reached XP level 5. HP: 48/48 MP: 1/1
  2983 | D:4     | HP: 2/49 [giant ant (5)]
  3146 | D:4     | Reached XP level 6. HP: 56/56 MP: 2/2
  3157 | D:4     | Reached skill 4 in Dodging
  3221 | D:4     | Noticed Edmund
  3233 | D:4     | Defeated Edmund
  3414 | D:4     | Noticed Blork the orc
  3428 | D:4     | Defeated Blork the orc
  3428 | D:4     | Reached XP level 7. HP: 64/64 MP: 2/2
  3481 | D:4     | Acquired Trog's third power
  3822 | D:5     | Reached skill 5 in Axes
  4303 | D:5     | Reached skill 5 in Dodging
  4485 | D:6     | Reached XP level 8. HP: 44/73 MP: 2/2
  4612 | D:6     | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  4663 | D:6     | Reached skill 6 in Axes
  5050 | D:6     | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5056 | Temple  | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5544 | D:7     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  5712 | D:7     | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  5744 | D:7     | Reached skill 7 in Axes
  5841 | D:7     | Reached XP level 9. HP: 56/81 MP: 3/3
  5843 | D:7     | Received a gift from Trog
  6077 | Orc:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
  6390 | Orc:2   | Found Shrool's Jewellery Shoppe.
  6407 | Orc:1   | HP: 3/121 [orc (4)]
  6407 | Orc:1   | Mangled by a troll

[Leafsnail]

Just died of hubris against a yak, yeah.  I have a feeling if you could eliminate hubris the troll berserker is basically a guarenteed win .

I guess the thing is they have loads of hp, but such poor EV/ AC that they are relatively squishy anyway.

[forsaken1111]

There should be a unique mob named Hubris.

[Robsoie]

Would be the most dangerous of them, considering that's certainly one of the main reason every characters die

[Leafsnail]

It's especially true for the TrBe, though.

I mean, you can berserk against almost any enemy and kill them easily, or use Trog's Hand if they're a spellcaster, or even call in some ridiculously powerful buddies (who have a tendancy to own hydras in 2 or 3 hits).  But no, you're convinced you CAN kill that group of monsters with no help from Trog.

Also, Pikel just made me gain 3 levels (5, 6, 7).  I think his xp value might need adjusting.

EDIT: The Hubris NPC should start off really weak and become very powerful as his HP drops.

[beorn080]

EDIT: The Hubris NPC should start off really weak and become very powerful as his HP drops.

Nah, he should be found on any level of the dungeon, and scale based on your stats. Fighting and Longblades very high? High HP and a randart katana. Just starting caster? He spams butterflies and the occasional mammal.

[Leafsnail]

Heh...

You know that large crowd of yaks that is usually the death of a caster in the lair?  Yeah, the one that manages to catch you in a position where you have no chance of finding a chokepoint?

Well, turns out just bringing in a brother in arms and going berserk is the solution.  7 out of 8 yaks dead in 5 turns, the last one left running for its life.  BiA and berserk are a potent mix...

[ChairmanPoo]

Mephitic cloud is another, better, solution.

[Medicine Man]

Yaks are W-A-A-A-Y-Y-Y overpowered in Stone Soup,Trolls are easier to kill.

[Robsoie]

Actually a troll is stronger than a yak and will kill the yak anytime on one-on-one.
The main problem with the yak as a monster is that it is never alone, you always have to deal with 5 or 6 of them.

And as a pak they're really dangerous at the level you are when you usually meet them for the 1st time.

[beorn080]

And the yaks are Yaks. I mean, your crusing, you see what looks like a sheep, then blam, half your health is gone. Its the furry assassin of the Lair.

[ChairmanPoo]

I'd like more item interactions, myself. IE: being able to temporarily brand weapons with poison using a poison potion, set clubs on fire to make torches, use piles of stones to build barricades in corridors, etc...

[Leafsnail]

Even the berserk ogres can slay several yaks before going down... berserk is a really awesome status.  And, since it's on a temporary ally, you don't have to suffer the after effects of it.

Orc was a total massacre.  The best one was the one where 4 orc priests were in sight (with a bunch of other rubbish) when going up the stairs... so I went berserk.  When you have this many meatshields, Trog will extend the duration again and again.  I think I killed about 30 before it ended (due to a distinct lack of living enemies, heh).