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Author Topic: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.  (Read 1684446 times)

Robsoie

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2700 on: June 30, 2010, 09:09:20 am »
Quote from: beorn080 on June 29, 2010, 11:46:31 pm
You'll walk over sigmund.

Ya'll should try wanderers, they aren't so bad.

Just tried an Ogre wanderer, i don't think since all the time i play Dungeon Crawl i had a game that was that short :
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On the 1st floor, an incredible bad luck, in a corridor suddenly at the other side of it (and the screen) a kobold appeared. He shots me 2/3 times before my Ogre was able to get back into a cover position.

But whatever he shot me with very badly poisonned my Ogre. Killed the kobold once he showed up near my cover, but it was already too late :
No potion in my inventory (i had a potion of degeneration i identified previously), and no potion anywhere on this floor, and being at level 1 the Ogre had not enough health to wait for the poison to stop itself.

The Ogre died obviously few turns later in what is my worst and shortest dungeon run ever : only 139 turns !

Will have to retry a wanderer, hopefully this time i will not run into such unlucky circumstance :D
« Last Edit: June 30, 2010, 09:11:10 am by Robsoie »
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« Reply #2701 on: June 30, 2010, 10:24:53 am »
The worst altar set up is when you run into something like Sif Muna in the middle of a lake. If you aren't a merperson/vampire and haven't identified a potion of levitation (you can escape moderately reliably with a scroll of teleport, which are very common) you can't worship Sif Muna until you do. Kinda sucks.

I ran into a gnoll fortress once as a vamp summoner. It was HUGE! Had a moat and everything, plus three doors and dozens of gnolls with a few dogs and even an ogre or two. I had to siege the thing with repeated swarms of spammals and dogs (was playing a wizard summoner). It was by far one of the most fun things I've done.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2702 on: June 30, 2010, 10:36:22 am »
In a run, i met a fortress surrounded by water and full of orcs in the normal dungeon , it was very fun as it felt nearly like a branch due to the complete change of atmosphere.

I really like how the dungeon can feature some really great random pieces sometime.

Will always remember that little house made with metal walls in the middle of a normal dungeon setup in an early floor, it looked really strange like if it was something very important.
Not resisting, i opened the door and saw in the middle of that little house an altar to the Shining One.
And an Angel ... but unlike those Angles behind glass walls, this one was actually totally free of his moves.

Let's say that my character didn't lasted long after that discovery :D
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« Reply #2703 on: June 30, 2010, 10:49:12 am »
Yeah, Shining One dungeon altars are nasty. However, if you worship Shining, the angel is friendly, and you can lure pretty much anything to it and it will slaughter it.
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Quote from: rkyeun on April 05, 2010, 01:09:56 am
Ustxu Iceraped the Frigid Crystal of Slaughter was a glacier titan. It was the only one of its kind. A gigantic feathered carp composed of crystal glass. It has five mouths full of treacherous teeth, enormous clear wings, and ferocious blue eyes. Beware its icy breath! Ustxu was associated with oceans, glaciers, boats, and murder.

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2704 on: June 30, 2010, 10:53:55 am »
I found an angel in an altar building to The Shining One once.  I had a flash of inspiration and closed the door immediately.  I never opened it again.

I've realised that the perfect combo would be firestorm and demonic horde... I'm gonna have to try it out sometime.

Also, for some reason, I'd quite like to see an Illusions spell school in the game.
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« Reply #2705 on: June 30, 2010, 11:02:40 am »
Blah, how do I sacrifice corpses to Yredelemnul?
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« Reply #2706 on: June 30, 2010, 11:04:59 am »
You don't. Yred prefers you to make them into zombies. Just keep slaughtering.

Edit: I have Steam dragon armor as a fairly decent caster based Wanderer. Would it be worth it to learn Stoneskin?

Edit2: Doesn't matter. Dear god the mobs.

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Learned Animate dead to get a posse. Turns out the next level had a fire drake, a steam dragon, and a black mamba all with the same ideas. Shouldn't have gone for the book.

Edit3: Alright, those Fire Crosses, I'm sure you've seen them. Bunch of items in the center of a cross, with a 3x3 flame cloud in each arm. They have patterns. If you can figure out the pattern, you can get through.
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Quote from: rkyeun on April 05, 2010, 01:09:56 am
Ustxu Iceraped the Frigid Crystal of Slaughter was a glacier titan. It was the only one of its kind. A gigantic feathered carp composed of crystal glass. It has five mouths full of treacherous teeth, enormous clear wings, and ferocious blue eyes. Beware its icy breath! Ustxu was associated with oceans, glaciers, boats, and murder.

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2707 on: June 30, 2010, 02:47:08 pm »
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You could see 4 yaks, a black mamba, a fire drake, a steam dragon, a war dog, a snake, 4 green rats and 8 grey rats.
Yikes.  That is definately not good.
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« Reply #2708 on: June 30, 2010, 02:49:04 pm »
Yeah, thats what I saw as I died. There were like 4 more war dogs, and assorted DL1 mobs scattered about. Turns out blink is a wonderful escape spell, up until the point where every visible square is either filled with a mob or next to a mob.
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Quote from: rkyeun on April 05, 2010, 01:09:56 am
Ustxu Iceraped the Frigid Crystal of Slaughter was a glacier titan. It was the only one of its kind. A gigantic feathered carp composed of crystal glass. It has five mouths full of treacherous teeth, enormous clear wings, and ferocious blue eyes. Beware its icy breath! Ustxu was associated with oceans, glaciers, boats, and murder.

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2709 on: June 30, 2010, 03:55:56 pm »
Oh god.  That was officially the closest call I've ever survived.

I walked into the view of a centaur warrior, and he took a pot shot at me immediately.  Bad.  What was worse was that I was just pressing the right button, not particularly expecting to be attacked by something like that.  So I take a step towards him AND come into view of his centaur warrior buddy.  I'm now at 6hp.

It's times like this when I'd advocate thinking through all your options.  I decided to make a list, and they came out something like:

1. Run!  Oh wait, I'd still be in view of BOTH of them.  And they're faster than me.  And the chances of surviving two shots with 6 hp and shitty dodging and AC are pretty slim.
2. Cast dispel missiles!  Laughably inadequate.
3. Mephitic cloud!  This seemed like a great idea, but a wall was in just the spot I needed clear to get a cloud to explode on both of them.  Damn.  I could confuse either one, but the other would be free to kill me.
4. Heal wounds!  Uh, only one of them did over 20 damage in one turn.  Now there are two.
5. Fireball!  Same as mephitic cloud.
6. Wands... none of them could take out both at once :/.

Finally, I realised I had a potion in my inventory that could save me completely.  It was... a potion of invisibility.  I'd like to say that invisibility is rather underrated as a status.  Both stopped firing at me (even though they surely knew where I was...) and I could easily confuse and kill them both.

Invisibility is also mass ownage if you're am assassin.  Seriously, almost no attacks hit you AND you get a stealth bonus AND even if a monster notices you you get a tier 2 stab attack on them every turn?
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2710 on: June 30, 2010, 04:23:46 pm »
I drank a potion of invisibility just recently, in order to get away from Blork the Orc.

Blork followed me out of the room, around a corner, and then "happened" to blast a fire bolt into the corridor I was running down.  All while I was supposedly invisible.

Wanker.


After running into a section of moldy terrain with some mushrooms (and a giant spore) in it, I've become somewhat obsessed with getting a character down to Fedhas Madesh.  Now I'm just trying to figure out what a good character would be for doing that.

I just now thought about kobolds.  They've got good ranged attack capabilities, (particularly with needles, which are great since enemies will spend several turns hacking away at mushrooms while trying to get at you), they're fully carnivorous (so you have nothing better to use the fruits for), and they can stock their stomachs up with food, so you can make the most out of each corpse you butcher instead of just eating a couple chunks before the rest rot.

Should be interesting.  It also sounds like yet another half-baked idea.  A wonderful combination, if I ever heard one.
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« Reply #2711 on: June 30, 2010, 04:25:23 pm »
I think they can still have a chance of noticing you, via footstep sounds. :)
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2712 on: June 30, 2010, 04:27:17 pm »
Ok, doesn't work so well in a corridor.  They're quite likely to hit you in that case.

Also, stupid death to a slime creature.  Was too busy killing a unique that was also onscreen.  Damn, slimes are ANNOYING.
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« Reply #2713 on: June 30, 2010, 04:29:51 pm »
Ah, nothing better then this line.

Sigmund, your human zombie, wielding a scythe, and wearing a robe.
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Quote from: rkyeun on April 05, 2010, 01:09:56 am
Ustxu Iceraped the Frigid Crystal of Slaughter was a glacier titan. It was the only one of its kind. A gigantic feathered carp composed of crystal glass. It has five mouths full of treacherous teeth, enormous clear wings, and ferocious blue eyes. Beware its icy breath! Ustxu was associated with oceans, glaciers, boats, and murder.

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #2714 on: June 30, 2010, 04:43:57 pm »
Hehehe.

By the way - while zombies and skellies can't descend, would it be possible to carry a bunch of skeletons downstairs, drop them THEN animate them?
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