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[Grendus]

The snakes pretty much cut through my demons without trying, which is weird because I've tried the other way around and it didn't work too well. I'm guessing that I can only cast remove poison when I'm not undead, but that's just a guess.

Back to the grind, I guess.

[Soadreqm]

Xom decided it would be HILARIOUS to summon some demons to kill my kobold chaos knight. I never got to see what that randart armor I couldn't afford would have done.

Found some nifty boots earlier. -1, but pretty nice stat bonuses. Didn't save me from Xom, though. Ah, well.

[Grendus]

Anyone know why it won't let me cast cure poison? Getting old fast.

I finished lair, but lack the poison resistance for snake and barely escaped a centaur herd in lair (god I love Summon Butterflies). I've taken up conjuring and enchanting as secondary magical foci, and it's actually really useful. Throw Flame is good for picking off creatures that run faster than my summonings, and Repel Missiles is a real godsend (literally, got the spell book from Sif Muna) against centaurs. Between repel missiles and butterfly shields, they aren't that bad even when backed up by slimes.

[beorn080]

If you are partially undead as a vampire, you count as undead and are supposed to be immune to poison and unable to cast cure poison, but I think there is a point where you can't cast cure poison, and can be poisoned. Just use ignite poison. Heck, in Snake, Ignite poison anyway.

[Soadreqm]

You could deliberately starve yourself to become less alive and get poison resistance. I remember doing that a couple of times, and while the lowered regeneration rate is irritating, it's not really crippling, especially for a magey-type.

[Robsoie]

According to my stats, troll unarmed combat out-DPS's any axe I threw at it, including a +9 +9 broad axe of chopping! I didn't check with an executioner's axe, though. So I think you're probably right to continue with unarmed combat. Still, since randarts can have insanely high +to-hit and +dam, you may want to ID the randarts if nothing else.

the main problem is my Troll have claws, so when i began to find some real goodies, i had such a unarmed combat level that i could just not go an use any weapons instead of the claws.

And there were really sad time when i found (or was giving by Trog) some very interesting ones with very good brands, but unfortunately as i was going with claws for so long, i have not enough weapon levels to have a really good use in battle.

Vaults:1-7 are easy and filled with food. Watch out for the Yaktaurs and uniques! One thing to note: Vaults:8, the end level, is very, very hard. It's filled with dragons, glowing shapeshifters, and other nasties, and there's ~20 Vault Guardians standing around all the upstairs. You'll eventually want to go here to get all the loot, but more specifically, you're likely to find a golden dragon. You're going to want to butcher its corpse to get a nice golden dragon armour. Failing that, storm dragon armour is ok, but you might be stuck with an ice dragon, regular dragon, or even a swamp dragon armour.

My troll just conquered the vault rune, but you were absolutely right, the last level was really difficult, i had to run away to heal a very lot of time (fortunately food was not an issue in the vault).
But the most difficult part was actually the entrance, those +/- 20 vault guardians was just plain insane.
Fortunately, the stair was in a place like this

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1 was the stair leading to the Vault last level
I went in, and once surrounded by those vault guardian, came up, then using the dozen of Blink scrolls, i teleported to 2
so from there it was 1 on 1, and my Troll going berzerk was eating them for breakfeast.
But i can't imagine what kind of horrible fate my Troll would have met if i didn't had those Blink scrolls, i think it would just have been impossible.

Took me a lot of time (and some teleport too, when my berzerker rage went down and there was always some vaults guardians alive while i was badly wounded), but managed to kill them all (humans corpses, good Troll food).

The final vault level layout was interesting, though i only visited 2 of the 4 possible walled locations, it was already hard enough.
One of the 2 walled place was like a village with many building (some with goodies inside, some with bad monsters) and the second walled place was a kind of labyrinth (and it was here i found the rune).
The labyrinth place had some shadow dragons, terrible beasts, fortunately always met them one-on-one and apparently my berzerked Troll was always stronger than them.

At some point i met a golden dragon one-on-one and was surprised to see him falling like a shadow dragon (i was ready to use my few blink remaining scroll at any time) to my berzerked Troll mighty claws.
But, i wish i had read your post before, because as the corpse was labelled as poisonned i just "prayed" on it to gain some Trog brownie points, i didn't butchered it as i didn't knew it was possible to get an armour out of it.
Argh, was there only 1 golden dragon in the Vault last floor ? or is it worth it to come back and explore more of it in the hope there may be another one ?

You cleared Snake w/o poison resistance?!?!? Holy fuck, that's a good sign you've got a winner of a character there (and that you're a winner of a player).

I must say that it is mostly only because of the very high health combined with the very high regeneration rate of my Troll that i survived, as recovering from those many poisonning would have been impossible with other kind of characters not having poison resistance.

Thanks to the lots of non-rotting food i had collected before going in too, as in the lack of butcherable things (being already poisonned by the monsters, i was not really wanting to eat more poisonned food) they were really making a difference.

If you have a source of clarity or levitation, you could probably do Swamp. All you need to do is kill swamp dragons until you get a swamp dragon hide. There's your armor for awhile. Pretty certain that troll claws lop off hydra heads, though, so bring a flaming weapon or get Brothers in Arms back. Your bros are very effective vs hydras.

There is food to be found in Slime, it's just all poisonous. Polymorphing would probably work out much better.

I don't think Swamp is possible, as i read on the wiki :

The Shoals branch was added in the Stone Soup version of game.

If it appears, it will replace either the Swamp or the Snake Pit (2 of the 3 branches appear in any one game). It is located between Lair:3 and Lair:6.

And i made Shoals and Snake Pit already unfortunately.

For the hydras, they are not a problem individually in front of my Troll once he goes berzerk, the claws multiply the heads but in the same time he can really deal insane amount of punch to them that he will kill the hydra quickly on a one on one, and they have this nice amount of XP as a reward, that i am always looking for more of them.

Basically, on a one-on-one i think my Troll is really good (once berzerked) , it is in front of multiple enemies that he is going into trouble, as once the berzerk wear off (and it will go always go off too quickly for comfort) he is in a real problem (survived those situation most of the time only because of the teleportation).

My big nemesis are the summoners able to call lots of demons, those spamming mamals stand no chance, even without going berzerk this Troll tear down those packs rather easily. 

My troll is currently in front of the Realm of Zot entrance with 3 runes, but in the same time he is "only" level 18 and i feel i could sure use better equipment, as in term of resistance i am really not good and reading a bit the wiki, i don't think he stands a chance in this current status of his, too many powerfull enemies that on top of that are coming in big packs.

So i'll have to go and explore a bit more, but i am not sure what kind of other branch is really good to provide good items without being too dangerous for his survival.

I even have a scroll of acquirement, but for a Troll i am totally unsure what to ask for.
I never had a character surviving that much (though with the help of save scumming to make up for my stupid mistakes, as that mutated Troll is fun to play) and even if i know there is nearly no chance of actually getting the Orb from what i read on wiki, i would like to have it surviving a bit more.

Here are the various items and characteristic my troll currently have, what kind of branch should i go with some survival chances considering these :







I guess crypt is a big no, considering the lack of food, and i am unsure Abyss or Hell are even containing anything my troll can eat.

[Mr.Person]

Yeah, you badly need a golden dragon armor. Go back up to Vault:8 and finish it up. Then go do Elf, if you haven't already. Mostly you just need more loot. Resistances, specifically. Make a save (I would), because you might not have enough food to make it to Elf and back, if you need to.

Acquire jewelry. You need more. Oh, and wear that ring of sustain abilities. Your 3 Int makes walking around without it on really risky.

You're right, there's not a whole lot of food to be had in most of the rest of the game. Abyss occasionally has edible things, but the only things to eat in Crypt are necromancers. Tomb has many edible Sphinxes, but your MR is way too low to stand a chance against them. If you're savescumming, though, you might as well try. If you can get a source of rP, an amulet of rCorr, and an amulet of rMut, you're plenty strong enough to take on Slime. I would like to see your skills, though.

[Robsoie]

Argh, just died (as it was in an acceptable way this time, not stupid bad luck or just me forgetting something) in the Vault level 8 while roaming around the place i had left unexplored.

Saw far a Fire Giant that was looking at my Troll and threw immediately a volley of fireballs that hurt my character badly, forcing me to move away to avoid a certain death (was wearing combat oriented rings, not fire protection ones as i went through several dragon clawing few minutes before)

So i retreated with a blink (teleportations would have been too dangerous on a level with powerfull monsters that i had not yet cleared) , and after running around a corner, another Fire Giant in the other end of the screen.

I don't know if they were in league against my Troll to have vengeance over the 2 Fire Giants he previously killed (encountered them in close quarter, so he could kill them quickly with his berzerking), but that second Fire Giant was aware of me as he threw immediately a fire ball that managed to kill my Troll.

But what a run this Troll had, lots of fun with that mutated poison spitting/fire breathing/scale and fur covered extremely strong clawed guy.

I would really hate to encounter his ghost in a next run.
The final log :

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  Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.6.0 character file.

229561 Borgark the Wrestler (level 19, -9/178 HPs)
             Began as a Troll Berserker on May 3, 2010.
             Was the Champion of Trog.
             Killed from afar by a fire giant (33 damage)
             ... with a fireball
             
             ... on Level 8 of the Vaults on May 5, 2010.
             The game lasted 04:49:04 (43734 turns).

Borgark the Wrestler (Troll Berserker)          Turns: 43734, Time: 04:49:05

HP  -9/178       AC 22     Str 36      Exp: 19/374752 (1429), need: 62497
MP   6/6         EV 17     Int  3      God: Trog [******]
Gold 4661        SH  0     Dex 15      Spells:  0 memorised, 18 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : .     - Unarmed
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : +   J - +3 troll leather armour
Life Prot.: + . .   Conserve   : .   (shield restricted)
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : .   S - +2 elf wizard hat
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   R - +2 dwarf cloak
Spirit.Shd: .                        (gloves unavailable)
Sust.Abil.: .       Rnd.Telep. : .   (boots unavailable)
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   U - amulet of warding
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .   s - +6 ring of protection
Gourmand  : +       Ctrl.Flight: .   G - +5 ring of dexterity

@: mildly poisoned, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly
stealthy
A: unfitting armour, carnivore 1, regeneration 2, fast metabolism 3,
teleport at will 1, spit poison 1, breathe flames 1, sharp teeth 1,
saprovore 2, gourmand, AC +4, Str +1
a: Spit Poison, Teleportation, Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand,
Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion, Breathe Fire


You were on level 8 of the Vaults.
You worshipped Trog.
Trog was exalted by your worship.
You were very full.

You visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and saw 59 of its levels.
You visited 1 Labyrinth.

You collected 4941 gold pieces.
You spent 300 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Armour
 b - the -1 robe "Thruzuew" {+Blink rF+}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)   
   It protects you from fire.
   It lets you blink.
 i - the +4 skin of Zhor {rC++}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 14 of the Dungeon)   
   It greatly protects you from cold.
 J - a +3 troll leather armour (worn)
 R - a +2 dwarven cloak (worn)
 S - a +2 elven wizard hat (worn)
Magical devices
 c - a wand of digging (4)
 f - a wand of lightning (15)
 q - a wand of fire (4)
 u - a wand of enslavement (8 )
 v - a wand of enslavement (7)
 y - a wand of confusion (4)
 D - a wand of teleportation (8 )
 E - a wand of frost (19)
 F - a wand of fire (8 )
 K - a wand of lightning (11)
 M - a wand of cold (8 )
 N - a wand of flame (7)
 T - a wand of polymorph other (8 )
 X - a wand of polymorph other (3)
 Y - a wand of paralysis (2)
Comestibles
 a - 11 meat rations
 e - 9 chunks of stone giant flesh
Scrolls
 d - 7 scrolls of teleportation
 j - a scroll of holy word
 k - 3 scrolls of detect curse
 p - 8 scrolls of remove curse
 r - 3 scrolls of fear
 w - a scroll of fog
 A - a scroll of blinking
 C - 3 scrolls of identify
 P - a scroll of summoning
Jewellery
 h - an uncursed amulet of controlled flight
 s - a +6 ring of protection (right hand)
 t - an uncursed ring of teleportation
 x - a +4 ring of strength
 z - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
 G - a +5 ring of dexterity (left hand)
 O - an uncursed ring of levitation
 U - an amulet of warding (around neck)
 Z - an uncursed ring of invisibility
Potions
 l - 12 potions of heal wounds
 m - 2 potions of resistance
 n - 2 potions of restore abilities
 o - 5 potions of speed
 B - 9 potions of healing
 H - 3 potions of invisibility
 Q - 5 potions of brilliance
 W - 3 potions of levitation
Books
 g - a tome of Destruction   
Miscellaneous
 I - a barnacled rune of Zot
 L - a silver rune of Zot
 V - a serpentine rune of Zot


 You had 1429 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 12 Fighting
 + Level 4 Armour
 + Level 14 Dodging
 - Level 3 Stealth
 + Level 2 Traps & Doors
 + Level 22 Unarmed Combat


You had 18 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (27/27)            Temple (0/1) D:4             Orc (4/4) D:10
    Elf (0/7) Orc:4          Lair (8/8 ) D:13         Shoals (5/5) Lair:5
  Slime (0/6) Lair:6        Snake (5/5) Lair:5         Hive (2/2) D:16
  Vault (8/8 ) D:14          Blade (0/1) Vault:6       Crypt (0/5) Vault:2
    Zot (0/5) D:27       
   Pan: D:21-27     

Altars:
Elyvilon
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Xom
Yredelemnul

Shops:
D:4: =  D:10: [  D:14: [  Lair:2: !  Lair:6: [  Lair:8: =  Snake:5: *
Vault:1: *

Portals:
Hell: D:21 D:25 D:27
Abyss: D:21


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have claws for hands.
Your body does not fit into most forms of armour.
You have very tough skin (AC +2).
You heal very quickly.
Your metabolism is lightning-fast.
You can eat rotten meat.
You like to eat raw meat.
You are covered in fur (AC +1).
Your muscles are strong (Str +1).
Your digestive system is specialised to digest meat.
You can teleport at will.
You can spit poison.
You can breathe flames.
You have very sharp teeth.
You are partially covered in blue scales (AC +1).


Message History

* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel sick.
The human shaped shifter changes into a giant mite!
The fire giant throws fire at you.
The fireball explodes!
Some of the scrolls you are carrying catch fire!
You die...

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You could see a fire giant and a giant mite shaped shifter.

Vanquished Creatures
  Saint Roka (Snake:2)
  A golden dragon (Vault:8 )
  2 titans (Vault:8 )
  3 shadow dragons (Vault:8 )
  A storm dragon (Vault:8 )
  Agnes (Vault:2)
  Aizul (D:17)
  Ilsuiw (Shoals:4)
  Frances (Shoals:4)
  Louise (Vault:3)
  Maud (D:16)
  16 stone giants
  A tentacled monstrosity (Vault:8 )
  2 fire giants
  A deep elf annihilator (Vault:8 )
  A deep elf death mage (Vault:8 )
  5 greater nagas (Snake:5)
  Snorg (D:16)
  16 yaktaur captains
  A great orb of eyes (shapeshifter) (D:17)
  A minotaur (shapeshifter) (Vault:8 )
  A dragon (Vault:4)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  29 vault guards
  A siren (Shoals:3)
  An ice dragon (shapeshifter) (Vault:8 )
  Wayne (Vault:7)
  2 merfolk aquamancers (Shoals:5)
  Harold (D:15)
  2 merfolk javelineers (Shoals:5)
  4 hydras
  4 ogre magi
  10 death yaks (Lair:7)
  4 merfolk impalers
  A stone giant zombie (Vault:6)
  A deep troll (Vault:8 )
  9 centaur warriors
  6 griffons
  2 deep trolls (shapeshifter)
  2 deep elf knights
  A stone giant skeleton (D:22)
  4 skeletal warriors
  2 iron trolls
  A giant orange brain (shapeshifter) (Vault:7)
  Erolcha (D:12)
  3 sea snakes
  5 unseen horrors
  2 rock trolls (shapeshifter) (Vault:8 )
  7 naga warriors
  9 orc knights
  A giant amoeba (Vault:3)
  A swamp dragon (shapeshifter) (Vault:8 )
  5 elves (shapeshifter)
  3 orc sorcerers
  14 hill giants
  Urug (D:14)
  2 wizards
  3 harpies (D:17)
  A harpy (shapeshifter) (D:20)
  4 iron troll skeletons
  4 guardian serpents (Snake:5)
  A hydra skeleton (Vault:4)
  12 cyclopes
  A spectral warrior (Vault:8 )
  An eye of devastation (shapeshifter) (Vault:8 )
  A black mamba (shapeshifter) (Vault:5)
  7 mimics
  3 elephant slugs
  A trapdoor spider (Vault:1)
  38 slime creatures
  9 black mambas
  A yaktaur (shapeshifter) (Vault:8 )
  A slime creature (shapeshifter) (Vault:8 )
  A dragon skeleton (Vault:2)
  A griffon skeleton (Vault:3)
  3 wolf spiders
  17 yaktaurs
  5 rock trolls
  2 hill giant zombies (Vault:8 )
  9 spiny frogs
  A draconian skeleton (Vault:8 )
  4 komodo dragons
  4 mermaids
  4 naga magi
  2 queen bees (shapeshifter)
  Sonja (D:15)
  2 redbacks
  22 ugly things
  9 trolls
  A polar bear (Lair:8 )
  Prince Ribbit (D:5)
  11 two-headed ogres
  A deep troll zombie (Vault:3)
  28 blink frogs
  A komodo dragon (shapeshifter) (Vault:8 )
  6 snapping turtles
  23 giant toads
  An ettin (shapeshifter) (Vault:3)
  An ettin (Vault:4)
  2 rock troll skeletons
  A deep troll skeleton (D:21)
  A wraith (Vault:6)
  A deep elf conjurer (D:21)
  3 wyverns
  A deep elf summoner (Vault:5)
  A bear (Lair:8 )
  A hog (shapeshifter) (D:17)
  A giant slug (shapeshifter) (Vault:8 )
  54 yaks
  3 vampires
  A clay golem (D:20)
  9 merfolk
  3 merfolk (shapeshifter) (Vault:8 )
  3 giant blowflies
  8 hippogriffs
  2 soldier ants
  3 deep elf fighters (D:21)
  2 hungry ghosts
  9 manticores
  2 mottled dragons
  3 fire drakes
  3 war dogs (Lair:4)
  A cyclops zombie (D:22)
  2 yaktaur skeletons
  2 freezing wraiths
  27 orc warriors
  A cyclops skeleton (Vault:2)
  6 insubstantial wisps
  A giant blowfly simulacrum (Vault:3)
  9 ice beasts
  24 ogres
  A wyvern skeleton (Vault:3)
  A giant goldfish (Lair:4)
  14 centaurs
  5 gila monsters
  A yak zombie (D:19)
  13 nagas
  A wolf (Lair:2)
  A boulder beetle zombie (Vault:3)
  Duvessa (D:4)
  5 giant slugs
  3 giant frog zombies
  8 crocodiles
  6 wargs
  A wolf (shapeshifter) (Vault:8 )
  2 draconians (shapeshifter)
  A soldier ant zombie (Vault:1)
  11 giant frogs
  A big kobold (Vault:2)
  2 giant frog skeletons
  A two-headed ogre zombie (Vault:3)
  19 water moccasins
  6 giant snails
  Blork the orc (D:4)
  A water moccasin skeleton (Vault:5)
  54 killer bees
  3 electric eels (Lair:4)
  3 wights
  3 boulder beetles
  A brain worm zombie (D:15)
  2 giant beetles
  A hound zombie (D:8 )
  13 hounds
  8 imps
  Dowan (D:4)
  4 big kobold skeletons
  26 orc priests
  2 scorpions (D:7)
  A shadow (D:17)
  29 orc wizards
  3 big fish (Lair:4)
  3 orange rats (Vault:2)
  2 deep elf soldiers (D:21)
  4 iguanas
  16 sheep
  4 giant ants
  Ijyb (D:6)
  2 jellies
  3 boggarts (Vault:1)
  A gnoll (shapeshifter) (Vault:8 )
  2 giant centipedes
  12 gnolls
  29 green rats
  3 giant mites
  23 snakes
  2 snake zombies (D:7)
  An iguana skeleton (Vault:8 )
  2 worms
  7 ufetubi (Vault:5)
  2 giant eyeballs
  34 giant bats
  10 giant cockroaches
  16 goblins
  71 grey rats
  20 hobgoblins
  28 kobolds
  3 orcs (shapeshifter) (Vault:8 )
  157 orcs
  8 giant geckos
  7 giant newts
  A giant newt skeleton (Vault:8 )
  28 jackals
  4 killer bee larvae (Hive:2)
  A kobold (shapeshifter) (Vault:8 )
  9 quokkas
  A quokka skeleton (Vault:4)
  A quokka zombie (D:5)
  29 rats
  3 small snakes
  2 ballistomycetes (D:10)
  34 fungi
  14 plants
  26 toadstools
1528 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  5 greater nagas (Snake:5)
  3 vault guards (Vault:7)
  3 naga warriors (Snake:5)
  5 guardian serpents (Snake:5)
  A black mamba (Snake:5)
  2 naga magi (Snake:5)
  10 nagas (Snake:5)
  4 water moccasins (Snake:5)
  A snake (Snake:5)
34 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A stone giant (Snake:5)
  2 hill giants (Snake:5)
  A troll (Snake:5)
  6 slime creatures
  A rock troll (Snake:5)
  A naga mage (Snake:5)
  A two-headed ogre (Vault:8 )
  A shark (Shoals:5)
  A black bear (Snake:5)
  4 ogres
  2 sheep (Shoals:5)
  A boggart (Vault:1)
  A snake (D:9)
  2 kobolds (D:17)
  A giant spore (D:10)
  A goblin (Orc:1)
  A quokka (D:13)
  3 rats
  A bush (Lair:7)
  7 fungi
  12 plants
  20 toadstools
71 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1633 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place   | Note
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     0 | D:1     | Borgark, the Troll Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1     | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 0/0
   295 | D:1     | Reached XP level 2. HP: 22/25 MP: 0/0
   768 | D:1     | Acquired Trog's second power
   943 | D:2     | Reached XP level 3. HP: 33/33 MP: 1/1
  1013 | D:2     | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  1250 | D:2     | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  1485 | D:3     | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  2033 | D:3     | Reached XP level 4. HP: 35/40 MP: 1/1
  2150 | D:4     | Reached skill 4 in Unarmed Combat
  2168 | D:4     | Found Cefer's Jewellery Emporium.
  2278 | D:4     | Reached XP level 5. HP: 15/48 MP: 1/1
  2305 | D:4     | Noticed Duvessa
  2325 | D:4     | Defeated Duvessa
  2338 | D:4     | Reached skill 1 in Armour
  2350 | D:4     | Noticed Dowan
  2368 | D:4     | Defeated Dowan
  2425 | D:4     | Reached XP level 6. HP: 40/55 MP: 2/2
  2448 | D:4     | Reached skill 5 in Unarmed Combat
  2516 | D:4     | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  2579 | D:4     | Noticed Blork the orc
  2598 | D:4     | Defeated Blork the orc
  2872 | D:5     | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3083 | D:5     | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  3102 | D:5     | Defeated Prince Ribbit
  3102 | D:5     | Reached XP level 7. HP: 64/64 MP: 2/2
  3357 | D:5     | Reached skill 6 in Unarmed Combat
  3867 | D:5     | Acquired Trog's third power
  4123 | D:6     | Reached skill 7 in Unarmed Combat
  4262 | D:6     | Reached XP level 8. HP: 71/71 MP: 2/2
  4722 | D:6     | Noticed Ijyb
  4728 | D:6     | Defeated Ijyb
  4898 | D:7     | Reached skill 8 in Unarmed Combat
  4923 | D:7     | Reached skill 5 in Dodging
  5365 | D:7     | Reached skill 9 in Unarmed Combat
  5617 | D:8     | Reached XP level 9. HP: 81/81 MP: 3/3
  5784 | D:8     | Reached XP level 8. HP: 68/76 MP: 2/2
  5786 | D:8     | Reached XP level 9. HP: 60/81 MP: 3/3
  6883 | D:9     | Reached skill 1 in Stealth
  6901 | D:10    | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  7170 | D:10    | Reached skill 10 in Unarmed Combat
  7183 | D:10    | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  7185 | D:10    | Found Wialics' Armour Shop.
  7256 | D:10    | Reached skill 5 in Fighting
  7422 | Orc:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
  7648 | Orc:1   | Reached XP level 10. HP: 58/91 MP: 3/3
  8144 | Orc:1   | Reached skill 11 in Unarmed Combat
  8195 | Orc:1   | Received a gift from Trog
  8427 | Orc:2   | You fall through a shaft!
  8427 | Orc:4   | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
  8447 | Orc:4   | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
  8626 | Orc:4   | Gained mutation: You are dopey (Int -1).
  8626 | Orc:4   | Lost mutation: You are dopey (Int -1).
  8626 | Orc:4   | Gained mutation: Your vision is a little blurry.
  8628 | Orc:4   | Gained mutation: You can breathe flames.
  8628 | Orc:4   | Lost mutation: Your vision is a little blurry.
  8628 | Orc:4   | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in blue scales (AC +1).
  8629 | Orc:4   | Gained mutation: You can spit poison.
  8629 | Orc:4   | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head.
  8884 | Orc:4   | Noticed a cyclops
  8905 | Orc:4   | Defeated a cyclops
  9373 | Orc:3   | Received a gift from Trog
  9389 | Orc:3   | Reached skill 12 in Unarmed Combat
 10117 | D:11    | Received a gift from Trog
 10269 | D:11    | Got a pair of shimmering gloves
 11216 | D:12    | Reached XP level 11. HP: 70/101 MP: 3/3
 11489 | D:12    | Noticed Erolcha
 11495 | D:12    | Defeated Erolcha
 11588 | D:12    | Reached skill 13 in Unarmed Combat
 11638 | D:12    | Gained mutation: You are dopey (Int -1).
 11638 | D:12    | Gained mutation: You can teleport at will.
 11638 | D:12    | Gained mutation: You have very sharp teeth.
 11922 | D:13    | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 12113 | D:13    | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 12167 | D:13    | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 12293 | D:13    | Noticed a giant snail
 12302 | D:13    | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 12310 | D:13    | Defeated a giant snail
 12662 | D:13    | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 12803 | D:13    | Reached skill 14 in Unarmed Combat
 12804 | D:13    | Received a gift from Trog
 12978 | Lair:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 13747 | Lair:1  | Reached XP level 12. HP: 102/111 MP: 4/4
 14654 | Lair:2  | Received a gift from Trog
 14705 | Lair:2  | Found Culudd's Distillery.
 16094 | Lair:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 16296 | Lair:4  | Reached skill 10 in Dodging
 16431 | Lair:5  | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 16772 | Lair:5  | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 16814 | Lair:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 16863 | Lair:5  | Lost mutation: You are dopey (Int -1).
 16863 | Lair:5  | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong (Str +1).
 16863 | Lair:5  | Lost mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head.
 16958 | Lair:6  | Found Psei's Armour Shoppe.
 17071 | Lair:6  | Reached skill 15 in Unarmed Combat
 17329 | Lair:6  | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 17902 | Lair:7  | Reached XP level 13. HP: 120/120 MP: 4/4
 18125 | Lair:7  | Received a gift from Trog
 18653 | Lair:8  | Found Yffi Schu's Jewellery Boutique.
 18653 | Lair:8  | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 20105 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 20307 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Frances
 20495 | Shoals:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 20590 | Shoals:1 | Reached skill 16 in Unarmed Combat
 20885 | Shoals:4 | Defeated Frances
 21105 | Shoals:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Shoals
 21105 | Shoals:5 | Noticed Ilsuiw
 21749 | Shoals:4 | Defeated Ilsuiw
 21756 | Shoals:4 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 75/131 MP: 4/4
 23336 | Shoals:5 | HP: 4/196 [merfolk javelineer/ steel javelin (27)]
 23345 | Shoals:5 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot
 23509 | Shoals:3 | Reached skill 1 in Traps & Doors
 23940 | Snake:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 24009 | Snake:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 24487 | Snake:4 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 24650 | Snake:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit
 25176 | Snake:5 | Found Uwnouhil's Assorted Antiques.
 25186 | Snake:5 | Bought a notched iron ring for 110 gold pieces
 25506 | Snake:5 | Reached skill 17 in Unarmed Combat
 25782 | Snake:5 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 138/138 MP: 5/5
 25900 | Snake:5 | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
 26034 | Snake:2 | Noticed Saint Roka
 26201 | Snake:2 | Reached skill 10 in Fighting
 26229 | Snake:2 | Defeated Saint Roka
 26516 | D:14    | Found a staircase to the Vaults.
 26838 | D:14    | Found Plog's Antique Armour Boutique.
 27308 | Vault:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 27316 | Vault:1 | Reached skill 18 in Unarmed Combat
 27529 | Vault:1 | Found Bricax's General Store.
 27733 | Vault:2 | Noticed Agnes
 27741 | Vault:2 | Defeated Agnes
 27742 | Vault:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 28121 | Vault:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 28356 | Vault:6 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades.
 28390 | Vault:6 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 149/149 MP: 5/5
 28581 | Vault:7 | Noticed Wayne
 28606 | Vault:7 | Defeated Wayne
 28631 | Vault:7 | Gained mutation: Your digestive system is specialised to digest meat.
 28933 | Vault:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Vaults
 29489 | Vault:7 | Reached skill 19 in Unarmed Combat
 30085 | Vault:8 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 120/159 MP: 5/5
 30545 | Vault:8 | Got a heavily runed robe
 30550 | Vault:8 | Identified the cursed -1 robe "Thruzuew" (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
 30610 | Vault:8 | A manticore changed into a guardian serpent
 30613 | Vault:8 | A guardian serpent shaped shifter changed into a komodo dragon
 31502 | Vault:8 | Reached skill 20 in Unarmed Combat
 31748 | Vault:8 | Noticed a deep elf annihilator
 31766 | Vault:8 | Defeated a deep elf annihilator
 31884 | Vault:8 | Noticed a golden dragon
 31895 | Vault:8 | Defeated a golden dragon
 31959 | Vault:8 | Got a silver rune of Zot
 32098 | Vault:8 | Noticed a deep elf death mage
 32106 | Vault:8 | Defeated a deep elf death mage
 32136 | Vault:8 | Got an inconspicuous book
 32139 | Vault:8 | Identified the Grimoire of Supportive Translocation (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)
 32469 | Vault:5 | Noticed a deep elf summoner
 32475 | Vault:5 | Defeated a deep elf summoner
 32755 | Vault:1 | Got a crude jade ring
 33038 | D:15    | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 33038 | D:15    | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 33038 | D:15    | Noticed Urug
 33039 | D:15    | Noticed Harold
 33064 | D:14    | Defeated Urug
 33080 | D:15    | Defeated Harold
 33260 | D:15    | Noticed Sonja
 33298 | D:15    | Defeated Sonja
 34011 | D:16    | Noticed Snorg
 34017 | D:16    | Defeated Snorg
 34265 | D:16    | Noticed Maud
 34281 | D:16    | Defeated Maud
 34338 | D:16    | Found a staircase to the Hive.
 34727 | Hive:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Hive
 34737 | Hive:1  | Reached skill 21 in Unarmed Combat
 34743 | Hive:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 34884 | Hive:2  | Entered Level 2 of the Hive
 35363 | D:17    | Received a gift from Trog
 35681 | D:17    | Reached XP level 18. HP: 135/171 MP: 6/6
 35866 | D:17    | Noticed Aizul
 35986 | D:17    | Defeated Aizul
 36614 | D:19    | Received a gift from Trog
 36739 | D:20    | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon
 37079 | D:21    | Noticed a deep elf conjurer
 37087 | D:21    | Defeated a deep elf conjurer
 37093 | D:21    | Received a gift from Trog
 37216 | D:21    | HP: 8/171 [yaktaur captain/ bolt (27)]
 37330 | D:21    | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 37456 | Lab     | Entered a Labyrinth
 38053 | Lab     | Got a sparkling tin ring
 38101 | D:21    | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
 38104 | D:21    | Found a gateway to Hell.
 38120 | D:21    | Identified the ring "Gitalommop" (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 38482 | D:25    | Entered Level 25 of the Dungeon
 38705 | D:27    | Entered Level 27 of the Dungeon
 39398 | D:20    | Received a gift from Trog
 39771 | D:17    | Reached skill 22 in Unarmed Combat
 40187 | D:14    | Bought a smelly skin for 190 gold pieces
 40188 | D:14    | Identified the +4 skin of Zhor (You bought it in a shop on level 14 of the Dungeon)
 41169 | Vault:2 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 41725 | Vault:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 41924 | Vault:3 | Noticed Louise
 41938 | Vault:3 | Defeated Louise
 42161 | Vault:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 125/178 MP: 6/6
 43734 | Vault:8 | Killed from afar by a fire giant

When i said the Brother in Arms really were extremely usefull to my success in the last floor of the Snake Pit, in the most difficult part :

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  5 greater nagas (Snake:5)
  3 vault guards (Vault:7)
  3 naga warriors (Snake:5)
  5 guardian serpents (Snake:5)
  A black mamba (Snake:5)
  2 naga magi (Snake:5)
  10 nagas (Snake:5)
  4 water moccasins (Snake:5)
  A snake (Snake:5)
34 creatures vanquished.

[Soadreqm]

I'm a currently a seventh-level kenku chaos knight of Xom, and I just decided to start training staves instead of the axe I've been using because I found a lajatang and why the hell not. According to the wiki, Xom likes it when I use a weapon with no skill, but my real motivation is that I fell in love with the lajatang after reading it's description.

And, well, if Xomites aren't allowed to make strategically bad decisions, who are?

EDIT:
Still surprisingly alive. Found a randart ring with {Hunger- MUT+ +Blink +Inv rPois MR AC+3}, and I'm not sure if I should be wearing it or not. I have an amulet of resist mutation, but I don't think I've ever seen mutagenic radiation before, so it's kind of creeping me out. Especially since I've already gotten some beneficial mutations from Xom (Dex+2, AC+2, poison and magic resistance and regeneration 1) and don't want to have to cure them.

Also, Xom has been summoning friendly demons lately. That usually means that the RNG is about to screw you over, right?

[Soadreqm]

...And then Xom animated my own lajatang, which proceeded to slaughter me. The end.

I guess the game was serious when it called lajatangs effective. That one wasn't even enchanted, and I still slaughtered nearly everything I came across. I guess Japanese weapons are just BETTER.

EDIT:
On a completely different character, a fifth-level spriggan assassin, I just found a RANDART LAJATANG. So, obviously, I must have it. Sadly, it is currently in the possession of some asshole shopkeeper who demands a whopping 750 pieces of gold for it. I gather Orc generates a lot of gold, but other than that, or a RNG windfall, are there tricks to making money?

Should I consider wearing heavier armor with a spriggan? My strength is utter shit, and my skill affinity for it is 170, which is pretty deep in the terrible end of things. On the other hand, I've heard tell that AC is way more useful than EV, especially if you're not wearing a shield because you're obsessed about wielding a lajatang because you were killed by one in a previous life. Right now I have a +2 elven robe of fire resistance.

I'm also a bit stumped regarding which god to pick. On my previous spriggan assassins, I've picked Fedhas, who was both thematically appropriate and had some pretty fun abilities. Drowning fish in Swamp by draining the pools with sunlight was totally awesome. However, the reliance on fruit to make oklob plans is something of a drawback for a character who can't eat meat ever, and I fear the army of mushrooms isn't going to remain powerful in later game. Actually, I have absolutely no idea of anything I should be doing in later game. Sneaking about and stabbing things has worked absolutely magnificently against every creature I have encountered, but I from what I hear, there will eventually be monsters against whom it simply will not work.

EDIT: CHAPTER TWO: OTHER SERVERS: HISTORIES OF IGNORANCE AND PRIDE
Walking about the wiki showed that there is in addition to crawl.akrasiac.org, in North America, which I have been using, there exist other servers: crawl.develz.org, in Germany, much closer; and rl.heh.fi, in Jyväskylä, Finland, which is this very city I am writing this from right now. It's not possible to migrate characters or high scores from one to another, is it?

[Mr.Person]

I paid 4000 gold for a randart storm dragon armour only to find out it was -2 and had Stlth-2 and I think +2 Dex. Oh boy.

800 gold isn't a lot, really. You'll probably find 1200 gold in Orc alone, plus another 400 in the first 10 dungeon levels. So you might only have to clear the first level or two of Orc, and only Orc:3 and Orc:4 are really dangerous anyways. Well, unless a unique shows up.

Lajatangs are effective. They really are, especially if the one you get turns out to be branded with something awesome like Speed or Vampirism.

God choice: TSO is always a good call. Trog is a fun choice (berserk spriggans move very, very fast, plus you can sac every single corpse), as is Okawaru. However, I recommend Nemelex. Spriggans have a very good Evocations aptitude, you'll have a ton of otherwise useless corpses, heavy armors, big weapons, and meat rations that make good sacrifices, and decks provide the extra power you'll need later on.

[Soadreqm]

The issue with the Shining One is that he essentially forbids stealthy play style, which is one of the only things spriggans are good at. I think I've only picked Nemelex like once ever or something like that, and don't really know anything about the card decks, but I think there are pretty extensive guides on those.

Heh, I seriously forgot for a moment that spriggans can't wear armor in the first place. Silly me.

And the thought of the artifact being absolutely worthless did cross my mind. That would be exactly the kind of convoluted joke the random number generator loves. After much questing and loot collecting, I walk back to the store, buy the item, and since I happen to be out of identify scrolls, I just wield it. The object of so much effort, finally in my hands. And then it statkills me with a massive strength penalty.

[Mr.Person]

I think randarts can only get up to -6 stat penalties. I know that the max you can lose from any one source is 8 Int from an Orange Crystal Statue attack.

Oh right, Spriggan. I never play stealthy characters. I usually only play Spriggan casters or occasionally Spriggan Berserkers. Let me just reiterate: They are fuuuuuun until you get one-shotted by an Ogre or Sigmund or whatever.

Definitely at least detect curse the thing before wielding it (or have a remove curse on hand, your choice), but ID'ing randart weapons is a big waste since they auto-ID just by wielding and using them.

[Kagus]

Yeah, I really wouldn't recommend Fedhas for a Spriggan.  It's a painfully appropriate pairing, but the fruit issue just breaks it.  It doesn't matter that Spriggans can ask for fruit from a scroll of acquirement, their stomachs will need it more than ol' Madash (I've found Halflings to actually be quite compatible.  They're excellent with slings, and you'll always want a ranged-type character with Fedhas due to the way his plants work.  Halflings can eat corpses, and they've got rather slow metabolisms, so you can balance between eating and 'stooling bodies while saving fruit for Fedhas.  Oh, yeah, and stock up on grapes and raisins...  A single raisin counts the same as a single apple for fruit-spell costs).

Nemelex is cool beans, I suggest you try him out more.  He'll accept just about anything in sacrifice, and he'll tailor his gifts according to what you sacrifice (this can be hugely useful or insanely aggravating, all depending on what you want from him).  Furthermore, the card decks are seriously powerful, and he loves it when you use them.  It's quite possible to use the decks exclusively, as by the time you run through one deck you'll almost certainly be granted one or two more.  Try to weight sacrifices towards creature remains and corpses, especially in the beginning.  Summoning decks are the safest to use early on, and they remain effective throughout the game.

Other than that, well...  Cheibriados is out of consideration for obvious reasons, and neither Sif Muna nor Vehumet have much to offer due to your not being a spellcaster.  Same goes for Kiku.  Yredelemnul might be handy for a couple abilities and for making use of corpses, but piety can be a little tricky to come by.  Plus, the zombie/skeleton stair nerf puts a damper on things.

You might actually want to try Okawaru.  Armor gifts certainly won't be of much use, but giving a Spriggan a seriously nice weapon o' DOOM is always great fun.  Plus, Might will give you a much-needed oomph-booster, while Haste will just add insult to injury with the Spriggan's natural speed.  And you can sacrifice all the corpses you come across, which should make him happy.

Makhleb can be handy for a warrior Spriggan, since they get natural mana and intelligence boosts whether you have a use for them or not.  Makhleb also rewards you with HP for a killed foe, cutting down on "rest" times slightly.  Again, the butchery aspect is brought up.

EDIT:  Oh, one more thing...  Yredelemnul periodically sends down greater undead servants to help you out.  These are nice as they can follow you up and down stairs and give you a little more combat meat for your frail Spriggan types, but they aren't particularly conducive to playing it stealthy.

[Grendus]

Holy crap. I ran into Mara. And won.

I lucked out I guess. I had abjuration which allowed me to banish his clones in one cast, as well as banish my clone's summonings. The fire hurt, but keeping up a swarm of butterflies kept the brunt of the attacks off me. Beyond that, I kept demons on him while keeping my image distracted outside of abjuration range (damn thing got all my spells, I'm the perfect counter for myself) and just let them wear him down. It helped that my image kept casting mephetic cloud instead of attacking me, and I was wearing an amulet of clarity. Plus the demons I got were all fire immune, so his bolt of fire was useless. I was amazed after I looked him up, he's supposed to be one of the hardest enemies in the game. He's also supposed to be between levels 18 and 25, not inside of freakin SWAMP! And now I'm afraid to go down... my ghost is damn scary.