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[DJ]

OK, I need some advice for getting my HeAm off the ground. There's just so many things I need to train, and I'm not sure what to prioritize. Obviously I need bows, and not training them would be a waste of a good aptitude. But I also need long blades, because bow seems a bit lacklustre point-blank (is there actually a penalty here, because it sure feels like it), and ammo can be a problem if I use bow for everything. But then I also have to train hexes, because the spells are really useful but need high spell power to be  reliable. And then there's of course dodging, because I'm squishy and adder poison kills like half of my characters. Obviously I can't train all of these at the same time, because I'll just wind up mediocre at everything. But leaving any one out leaves me vulnerable. So I've concluded that I need to train these things one after another, but I'm having a hard time figuring out the schedule. Can someone with experience with this background recommend me a "build", ie what to train when.

[Rex_Nex]

That depends on where you are. Assuming you're early in the game and just found a longsword laying around:

Turn on Long Blades to ~10 + Dodging to ~10 + Spellcasting and Hexes ~3 for Slow; then

Turn off dodging/long blades, Spellcasting to ~5 + Hexes to ~7 for Cause Fear;

Turn on Bows, turn on Fighting to ~6.

After this I think it's way too blurry, it depends on if you've found enough arrows, any books, another long blade or a bow, etc.

Anyway, today I learned a hard lesson. I was cruising through the game with CeGl (which btw is RIDICULOUSLY easy, I never once felt threatened) and came across Jogrun in Swamp. No biggie, he's at max distance, I have good gear, lots of resists and full HP, and 23 Bows with a nicely enchanted Longbow. Pretty much just passing the time until Zot.

Suddenly:



RIP. Always pay attention to status effects, kids. Shatter hurts.

[DJ]

Enslave + inner fire is a lot of fun, until you enslave multiple enemies and one of them gets killed in the explosion, which really pisses off Okawaru. What other god would be a good choice for HeAm?

[Dr Feelgood]

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Dungeon Sprint DCSS version 0.15.0 (tiles) character file.

282556 DrFeelgood the Imperceptible (level 13, 31/80 HPs)
             Began as a Spriggan Assassin on Sept 13, 2014.
             Was an Elder of Trog.
             Escaped with the Orb!
             The game lasted 00:56:22 (4899 turns).

DrFeelgood the Imperceptible (Spriggan Assassin)    Turns: 4899, Time: 00:56:22

HP  31/80        AC  5     Str  7      XL: 13   Next: 10%
MP  29/29        EV 41     Int 13      God: Trog [****..]
Gold 190         SH  8     Dex 27      Spells:  0 memorised, 12 levels left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis +     r - +1 quick blade (distort) {!w}
rCold  + + .     Clarity  .     s - +2 robe {rC+ rF+}
rNeg   . . .     rCorr    .     c - +1 buckler {rC+}
rPois  .         rRot     .     (helmet restricted)
rElec  .         Spirit   .     d - +0 cloak
SustAb .         Warding  .     (gloves unavailable)
rMut   .         NoTele   +     (boots unavailable)
Gourm  .                        (no amulet)
MR     ++...                    (no ring)
                                o - ring of invisibility

@: agile, seriously poisoned, exhausted, very slightly contaminated, slowed,
quick, very resistant to hostile enchantments, stealthy
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Invisibility
0: Orb of Zot


You escaped.
You worshipped Trog.
Trog was greatly pleased with you.
You were not hungry.

You visited 1 branch
You collected 445 gold pieces.
You spent 255 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 b - a +0 blowgun
 g - a +9 quick blade
   (You found it in the Dungeon)
 r - a +1 quick blade of distortion (weapon) {!w}
   (You took it off the Enchantress in the Dungeon)
Missiles
 e - 11 poisoned needles
 t - 6 curare-tipped needles
 u - 6 needles of slowing
 w - 21 needles of frenzy
 x - 5 needles of confusion
Armour
 a - the +3 faerie dragon armour {rPois MR+ Stlth-, unknown}
   (You took it off the Enchantress in the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It makes you less stealthy.
 c - a +1 buckler of cold resistance (worn)
   (You took it off the Enchantress in the Dungeon)
 d - a +0 cloak (worn)
 s - a +2 robe of resistance (worn)
   (You found it in the Dungeon)
Magical devices
 f - a wand of digging (11)
   (You took it off Agnes in the Dungeon)
Comestibles
 q - 4 royal jellies
Scrolls
 m - a scroll of fog
Jewellery
 o - a ring of invisibility (left hand)
   (You found it in the Dungeon)
Potions
 h - a potion of curing
 i - 2 potions of heal wounds
 k - 3 potions of magic
 l - a potion of berserk rage
 n - a potion of restore abilities {unknown}


   Skills:
 + Level 15.0 Fighting
 - Level 12.1 Short Blades
 + Level 18.1 Throwing
 - Level 15.5 Dodging
 + Level 25.2 Stealth
 - Level 8.4 Evocations


You had 12 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (1/1)             

Altars:
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva
Lugonu

Shops:
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Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
You are a herbivore.
You cover ground extremely quickly.
You need consume almost no food.


Message History

The ancient lich is heavily damaged.
You are poisoned.
You hit the ancient lich but do no damage.
Space bends around the ancient lich.
The ancient lich is heavily damaged.
You hit the ancient lich but do no damage.
The ancient lich is heavily damaged.
The ancient lich disappears!
You are more poisoned.
You block the lich's attack.
You puncture Stroezxegh! Space bends around Stroezxegh.
Stroezxegh is lightly wounded.
Stroezxegh completely misses you.
You hit Stroezxegh.
Stroezxegh is lightly wounded.
Stroezxegh blinks!
You feel a strong urge to attack something.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You are more poisoned.
The lich points at you and mumbles some strange words.
The bolt of acid misses you.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.
You feel your anger subside.
You are no longer berserk.
You are exhausted.
You feel yourself slow down.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You are more poisoned.
Stroezxegh gestures.
You have escaped!

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You could see Stroezxegh, a lich, a hell hog, an orange demon and an iron devil.
I finally beat all the Sprint maps.  Fedhas' Mad Dash is a fun map. Half of the enemies can't see invisible and the other half can. A ring of invisibility is available very early on, so I guess they want you to play stealthy. My SpAs had an easy time. Curare needles instant-killed the sleeping spriggans. And invisibility trivializes the oklobs. I used Trog's summons for the few enemies that needles and stealth didn't work on.

[Robsoie]

Nice !
Those sprint constantly kills my character, some faster than other (i always wondered if those sprint map are really doable with every class/race combo)

I looked at the time/turns to win between my 0.15 deep elf wizard and my 0.15 minotaur fighter

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Deep Elf Wizard (3 runes) :

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The game lasted 13:08:29 (147067 turns).
You visited 11 branches of the dungeon, and saw 62 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 1 time.
You visited 1 Ziggurat, and saw 2 of its levels.
You also visited: Labyrinth and Ice Cave.

Minotaur Fighter (4 runes) :

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The game lasted 05:47:38 (78730 turns).
You visited 12 branches of the dungeon, and saw 65 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 1 time.
You visited 1 bazaar.
You also visited: Labyrinth, Ice Cave and Wizlab.

So basically my minotaur did more but did it in half of the turns and less than half of the time.

I think what can explain this enormous difference is that my deep elf was much more squishy and being hurt was much more dangerous, so i decided to always rest to full health everytime, never risking to explore without full health (as dying would have been then easier).
My minotaur was a tank from beginning to end and rarely hurt anyways.

And of course there is the mana, my minotaur wasn't caring about at all about mana at any time of the game, while my deep elf survival was based on it, meaning i needed to rest to full mana after every fights to avoid getting surprised by some hard monster group without enough mana to deal with it.

I was curious too about the food consumption difference

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Deep Elf Wizard needed to eat 227 times

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  Eat: Chunk             |     4 |     7 |    18 |    15 |    10 |     1 |    16 |     3 |       ||    74
       Fruit             |       |     2 |     3 |     6 |    18 |    15 |       |     7 |       ||    51
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     1 |       |     6 |       |       |       ||     7
       Pizza             |       |       |       |     8 |     5 |     2 |     1 |     5 |       ||    21
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |     4 |     4 |     4 |     3 |     3 |       ||    18
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |     1 |     5 |     4 |     8 |     9 |     1 ||    28
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |       |     6 |    10 |    11 |     1 |       ||    28
Minotaur Fighter had to eat 112 times

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  Eat: Chunk             |     1 |     4 |     5 |     3 |     6 |     3 |     4 |       |       ||    26
       Bread ration      |       |     1 |     2 |       |     2 |     6 |     2 |     1 |     3 ||    17
       Pizza             |       |       |     1 |       |     1 |     1 |       |       |     1 ||     4
       Meat ration       |       |       |     1 |       |     1 |     2 |     6 |     4 |     4 ||    18
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     5 |    16 |     1 |     2 |     1 |     1 ||    26
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |     1 |     3 |     2 |       |       |     1 ||     7
       Fruit             |       |       |       |       |     5 |     5 |       |     4 |       ||    14
Results logical, my minotaur spend 2 time less turns to win than my deep elf and so had to eat 2 times less.
And those results has to take in account that i had for the whole duration of the game (found it very early) a staff of energy, i can't even imagine what kind of number i would have ended with my deep elf if i had not found it that early, as some of his most important spell that helped survival so much (like poisonous cloud) are rather costly in term of hunger.

that said, since my minotaur win i lost near to 10 characters, only 1 reached the lair.
Didn't really annoyed me as none of those 10 found any kind of decent loot anyways, unlike my 2 winners that got early enough to keep them alive for the whole game

[Rex_Nex]

I think its less a deep elf thing and more a caster thing. Literally every time I see a caster in-progress, they always have ridiculous gametime in comparison to a melee or ranged character. Berserkers are usually winning by the time casters get their first or second rune. I think a lot of it has to do with MP management, like you said, and they do have more on their plate in terms of progression and ability management.

Its the number 1 reason I dont ever play them. It just takes too much time, I get bored.

[Retropunch]

That's a very interesting comparison in game time. I've always felt that the slower, more tactical caster play is how crawl is 'meant' to be played, with berserkers being a sort 'hack and slash' mode.

In case you didn't know, there are various tweaks you can do in the settings file to make auto-explore instant (you just teleport to the next 'interesting' thing) and make resting take no time. This combined with a good auto-pickup list does speed the game up considerably, but does take a bit of getting used too. It's worth playing around with to find the right settings for you - let me know if you need a hand setting it up.

[miauw62]

Casters are much slower, but imo also more interesting since you get a bunch of flashy spells.

[Graven]

Welp, that's it.
 
I can finally stop pretending to be a semi-decent Crawl player.

I starved to death. In Snake:4 after grabbing the rune.

Because I was in the situation in which 1 shatter brings me to starving, and I didn't have time to eat, I alternated Shattering and eating Fruits. I grabbed the rune, ran 3 steps and whoops HERE'S A LIST OF YOUR SHIT, ASSHOLE.

I am SO done with this.

[Dr Feelgood]

My new handle ended up similar to the old one.

I thought I was going to ruin my decent win rate after not playing for a year, but it looks like the new account was unnecessary. I only need 2 more online wins to equal my offline wins.

Nice !
Those sprint constantly kills my character, some faster than other (i always wondered if those sprint map are really doable with every class/race combo)

I looked at the time/turns to win between my 0.15 deep elf wizard and my 0.15 minotaur fighter

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Deep Elf Wizard (3 runes) :

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The game lasted 13:08:29 (147067 turns).
You visited 11 branches of the dungeon, and saw 62 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 1 time.
You visited 1 Ziggurat, and saw 2 of its levels.
You also visited: Labyrinth and Ice Cave.

Minotaur Fighter (4 runes) :

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The game lasted 05:47:38 (78730 turns).
You visited 12 branches of the dungeon, and saw 65 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 1 time.
You visited 1 bazaar.
You also visited: Labyrinth, Ice Cave and Wizlab.

So basically my minotaur did more but did it in half of the turns and less than half of the time.

I think what can explain this enormous difference is that my deep elf was much more squishy and being hurt was much more dangerous, so i decided to always rest to full health everytime, never risking to explore without full health (as dying would have been then easier).
My minotaur was a tank from beginning to end and rarely hurt anyways.

And of course there is the mana, my minotaur wasn't caring about at all about mana at any time of the game, while my deep elf survival was based on it, meaning i needed to rest to full mana after every fights to avoid getting surprised by some hard monster group without enough mana to deal with it.

I was curious too about the food consumption difference

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Deep Elf Wizard needed to eat 227 times

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  Eat: Chunk             |     4 |     7 |    18 |    15 |    10 |     1 |    16 |     3 |       ||    74
       Fruit             |       |     2 |     3 |     6 |    18 |    15 |       |     7 |       ||    51
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     1 |       |     6 |       |       |       ||     7
       Pizza             |       |       |       |     8 |     5 |     2 |     1 |     5 |       ||    21
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |     4 |     4 |     4 |     3 |     3 |       ||    18
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |     1 |     5 |     4 |     8 |     9 |     1 ||    28
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |       |     6 |    10 |    11 |     1 |       ||    28
Minotaur Fighter had to eat 112 times

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  Eat: Chunk             |     1 |     4 |     5 |     3 |     6 |     3 |     4 |       |       ||    26
       Bread ration      |       |     1 |     2 |       |     2 |     6 |     2 |     1 |     3 ||    17
       Pizza             |       |       |     1 |       |     1 |     1 |       |       |     1 ||     4
       Meat ration       |       |       |     1 |       |     1 |     2 |     6 |     4 |     4 ||    18
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     5 |    16 |     1 |     2 |     1 |     1 ||    26
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |     1 |     3 |     2 |       |       |     1 ||     7
       Fruit             |       |       |       |       |     5 |     5 |       |     4 |       ||    14
Results logical, my minotaur spend 2 time less turns to win than my deep elf and so had to eat 2 times less.
And those results has to take in account that i had for the whole duration of the game (found it very early) a staff of energy, i can't even imagine what kind of number i would have ended with my deep elf if i had not found it that early, as some of his most important spell that helped survival so much (like poisonous cloud) are rather costly in term of hunger.

that said, since my minotaur win i lost near to 10 characters, only 1 reached the lair.
Didn't really annoyed me as none of those 10 found any kind of decent loot anyways, unlike my 2 winners that got early enough to keep them alive for the whole game

My recent games: VSBe vs GrEE

VSBe: ate 271 pieces of food, took 69123 turns
GrEE (no staff of energy, worshiping Sif): ate 1174 pieces of food, took 95608 turns

[vogonpoet]

Obvious: tab, spriggans, vaults and serious lag do not mix.

[Dr Feelgood]

Spoiler: The Pits Redux (click to show/hide)

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Dungeon Sprint DCSS version 0.15.0 (tiles) character file.

444976 DrFeelgood the Spriggan Ballista (level 17, 111/119 (121) HPs)
             Began as a Spriggan Assassin on Sept 14, 2014.
             Was an Elder of Zin.
             Escaped with the Orb!
             The game lasted 05:22:29 (15416 turns).

DrFeelgood the Spriggan Ballista (SpAs)            Turns: 15416, Time: 05:22:30

HP 111/119 (121) AC  9     Str 13      XL: 17   Next: 99%
MP  33/40        EV 44     Int 15      God: Zin [****..]
Gold 7           SH 14     Dex 24      Spells:  0 memorised, 16 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis +     b - +4 blowgun
rCold  + + .     Clarity  .     c - +2 robe {rF+}
rNeg   + . .     rCorr    +     D - +3 buckler
rPois  +         rRot     .     J - +2 hat
rElec  +         Spirit   +     F - +2 cloak {MR+}
SustAb .         Warding  .     (gloves unavailable)
rMut   .         NoTele   +     (boots unavailable)
Gourm  .                        U - amulet "Waqie" {Spirit +Blink rN+ Slay+3 SInv}
MR     +++..                    V - ring "Hudwaoja" {rPois rC+ Str+6 Slay+3 SInv}
                                W - ring "Vidwad" {+cTele Dex+2 Slay+3 Stlth+}

@: resistant, very slightly contaminated, hasted (expiring), very quick,
extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, deterioration 1, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow
metabolism 2
a: Recite, Vitalisation, Imprison, Renounce Religion, Evoke Blink, Evoke
Teleport Control
0: Orb of Zot


You escaped.
You worshipped Zin.
Zin was greatly pleased with you.
You were full.

You visited 1 branch
You collected 70 gold pieces.
You donated 63 gold pieces to Zin.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 b - a +4 blowgun (weapon)
 g - the -1 dagger "Frub" {freeze, rElec Int+3}
   (Trog gifted it to you in the Dungeon)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible
   opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It insulates you from electricity.
 k - a +5 antimagic quick blade
   (Trog gifted it to you in the Dungeon)
 s - the +3 short sword of Modesty {elec, rF++ rC- Int+1}
   (Trog gifted it to you in the Dungeon)   
   
   Occasionally, upon striking a foe, it will discharge some electrical energy
   and cause terrible harm.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+1).
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
Missiles
 e - 7 poisoned needles (quivered)
 f - 10 curare-tipped needles
 m - 8 silver tomahawks
 p - 17 needles of slowing
 u - 3 needles of frenzy
 v - 15 needles of confusion
 w - 7 needles of paralysis
 L - a needle of sleeping
Armour
 c - a +2 robe of fire resistance (worn)
   (You found it in the Dungeon)
 D - a +3 buckler (worn)
   (You took it off a deep elf fighter in the Dungeon)
 F - a +2 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
   (You found it in the Dungeon)
 J - a +2 hat (worn)
   (You found it in the Dungeon)
Magical devices
 a - a wand of fireball (3)
   (You took it off Louise in the Dungeon)
 d - a wand of heal wounds (1) {!d}
   (You found it in the Dungeon)
 K - a wand of heal wounds (3) {!d}
   (You found it in the Dungeon)
 Q - a wand of hasting (2) {!d}
   (You found it in the Dungeon)
Comestibles
 n - 13 fruits
 o - 6 bread rations
Scrolls
 r - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 t - a scroll of enchant armour
 y - 2 scrolls of fear
 C - a scroll of fog
 I - a scroll of identify
Jewellery
 l - an uncursed ring of regeneration
   (You found it in the Dungeon)
 E - the ring of Grontol {Fire MR+ Str+2 Dex+2 SInv}
   (You found it in the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of fire]
   
   It enhances your fire magic, and weakens your ice magic.
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 N - the amulet "Rex Ofu" {Stasis Dex+5 Int+1}
   (You found it in the Dungeon)   
   
   [amulet of stasis]
   
   It prevents you from being teleported, slowed, hasted or paralysed.
   It affects your intelligence (+1).
   It affects your dexterity (+5).
 O - the amulet "Ygeic" {+Rage rC++}
   (You found it in the Dungeon)   
   
   [amulet of rage]
   
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It lets you go berserk.
 R - the amulet "Lyryag" {Ward rElec rN++}
   (You found it in the Dungeon)   
   
   [amulet of warding]
   
   It may prevent the melee attacks of summoned creatures.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It greatly protects you from negative energy.
 S - the ring of Fedhas' Condemnation {SustAb Dex+4 Int+4}
   (You found it in the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of sustain abilities]
   
   It sustains your strength, intelligence and dexterity.
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
 U - the amulet "Waqie" (around neck) {Spirit +Blink rN+ Slay+3 SInv}
   (You found it in the Dungeon)   
   
   [amulet of guardian spirit]
   
   It causes incoming damage to be split between your health and magic.
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+3).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It lets you blink.
 V - the ring "Hudwaoja" (right hand) {rPois rC+ Str+6 Slay+3 SInv}
   (You found it in the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of strength]
   
   It affects your strength (+6).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+3).
   It protects you from cold.
   It protects you from poison.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 W - the ring "Vidwad" (left hand) {+cTele Dex+2 Slay+3 Stlth+}
   (You found it in the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of teleport control]
   
   It can be evoked for teleport control.
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+3).
   It makes you more stealthy.
 X - the ring of Stril {+Blink rN+ MR+ Int+6}
   (You found it in the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of intelligence]
   
   It affects your intelligence (+6).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you blink.
 Y - the ring of Khiecsish {+Inv Dex+6 Slay+5}
   (You found it in the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of dexterity]
   
   It affects your dexterity (+6).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+5).
   It lets you turn invisible.
 Z - the ring "Rounkon" {+Inv MR+ Dex+6}
   (You found it in the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of dexterity]
   
   It affects your dexterity (+6).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you turn invisible.
Potions
 h - 2 potions of curing
 j - a potion of berserk rage
 A - 4 potions of restore abilities
 H - 5 potions of cure mutation
 P - 2 potions of porridge


   Skills:
 + Level 26.8 Fighting
 - Level 14.6 Short Blades
 O Level 27 Throwing
 O Level 27 Dodging
 O Level 27 Stealth
 - Level 11.9 Shields
 + Level 22.6 Invocations
 - Level 13.1 Evocations


You had 16 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (1/1)             

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva
Lugonu

Annotations:
D Khufu, Mnoleg, Tiamat


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
You are a herbivore.
You cover ground extremely quickly.
You need consume almost no food.
Your body is slowly deteriorating.


Message History

Returning to the game...
A sixfirhy comes into view.
A hellwing comes into view.
The hellwing gestures at you.
You resist with almost no effort.
Move the cursor to view the level map, or type ? for a list of commands.
Returning to the game...
You see here a dire flail.
There is an open door to the Final Vault (Nightmare!) here.
There is a huge open gate to the Vestibule (Extremely Hard) here.
There is a huge open gate to the Vestibule (Extremely Hard) here.
There is a huge open gate to the Grid Vault (Hard) here.
There is a huge open gate to the Main Hall (Safe) here.
An Executioner and 2 large abominations come into view.
Your extra speed is starting to run out.
There is an open door to the Entrance Hall (Safe) here.
The Executioner gestures at you.
You resist with almost no effort.
The Executioner gestures.
The Executioner seems to speed up.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.
Use which ability? (? or * to list)
You hear a choir sing!
The Executioner is blasted by Zin's holy word!
The large abomination is blasted by Zin's holy word!
The monsters scatter in all directions! You feel somewhat less full.
You can no longer call upon Zin to create a sanctuary.
The floor.
This square lies inside a sanctuary and is covered in magical glow.
You have escaped!

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You could see an Executioner (fleeing) and a large abomination (fleeing).

I love needle stabbing! It requires max throwing skill to reach maximum effectiveness though. The map took longer than usual, because I screwed up in the final vault and awoke everything. Fighting Mennas, The Royal Jelly, Mnoleg, and the Zot denizens at once was fun.

I used a vulnerability scroll to ensure that my paralysis needle worked on the royal jelly. It probably wasn't necessary. Jellies eat your needles, so I killed them the old fashioned way. I killed everything, except Mnoleg, who was lured to an empty part of the level and ditched.

Curare needles can apparently one-shot anything that's not resistant to poison, including orb guardians and draconians, if they're sleeping. Frenzy needles are great against low MR melee enemies in crowded areas. Sleeping needles are similar to paralysis needles, except much rarer. I used confusion needles along with slowing needles to prevent enemies from wandering too far. I haven't tested if vulnerability scrolls allow needles to work on magic-immune enemies. That would be nice.

[miauw62]

There's currently a bug feature in trunk that makes sounds incredibly loud.

<potatolizard> Ye hit tha adder. Tha adder be heavily wounded. Ye hear a shout! Ye hear an angry growl. Ye hear an angry hiss.Ye hear a shout! Ye hear a bellow! Ye hear a bellow! Ye hear a bellow! Ye hear a shout! x6 Ye hear a bellow! Ye hear a shout! Ye hear an angry hiss. Ye hear a shout! Ye hear a shout! x2 Ye hear a bellow! Ye hear a shout! Ye hear a bellow! Ye hear a bellow! Ye hear a shout! Ye hear a bellow! Ye hear two shouts! Ye hear a bellow! Ye hear a ...

<Sequell> epic bugs[19/19]: 15th september 2014: A change in trunk accidentally made walls multiply (instead of divide) the noise intensity. The bat hits you but does no damage.  The hobgoblin shouts! You hear a shout! You hear a shout! You hear a shout! _You hear a shout! (3x)

[lemon10]

On a random note, here are the lessons I have learned from the last few games (as gargoyle fighters):
Amulets of faith are awesome on Okawaru. You get way more gifts, and can use your powers fairly frequently without ever going below max stars. Eventually you will want to swap it for a randart, but getting more gifts has a huge impact.

I need to be less overconfident, those deep troll earth mages are nasty, especially when backed up by a dozen other deep trolls and half a dozen hill giants.

Okawaru's abandonment is nasty, don't abandon him. Even if you think you can handle it, its a huge pain in the butt, and even then it can kill you. It really isn't worth it for anything less then a 15 runer. AKA, be less overconfident.

Qazlal is cool, he clouds everywhere, and all the enemies just rush up to you so you can murder them in the face. That shield buff is pretty neat too.

Just because Sonja is a skeleton doesn't mean she can't still banish you with her dagger of disruption.

If you are with Qazlal, and you get banished, abandon him instantly. His penance *might* kill you, but the massive noise from your clouds in the abyss certainly will (unless you are already like level 27 or something).

[MaximumZero]

Today, I made it farther than I ever had. Cleared Lair, Cleared Orc, made it to the Vault door, and fell to Norris in Snake:2. Stupid invisible jerk. He was almost dead, too. ;_;