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This is troubling. Does anyone have general Abyss advice? I've never made it out, and I'd really hate to lose this character.

You should be 100% fine in the abyss as long as you keep your wits about you - you can kill most stuff easily and you're strong enough to withstand a bit of punishment. You can fly over lava/water to escape stuff and the boots of running will get you out of most situations. I'd probably aim for abyss:2/3 as the portal is more frequent the lower you go and I imagine attrition would kill you before most other threats.

You've got good enough weapons to kill most stuff as well, although being so noisy you'll have trouble if you stick around too long as you'll bring loads of enemies towards you.

One thing I've often noticed with people playing is that that they rush the abyss. For some reason as soon as people end up there they start playing it as though it was real time. Slow it down, carefully choose your routes and teleport/heal as soon as you get into trouble.

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15.0 (tiles) character file.

Burly Fighter the Warrior (Gargoyle Fighter)       Turns: 43415, Time: 01:59:27

HP  64/128       AC 43     Str 28      XL: 19   Next: 29%
MP  33/33        EV 14     Int 12      God: Qazlal [******]
Gold 1885        SH  8     Dex 12      Spells:  7 memorised, 20 levels left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis .     Y - +9 great mace of Obelaf {elec, Noisy rPois Dex+2 Int+1}
rCold  + + .     Clarity  .     Z - +8 chain mail of Wonder {+Blink rC++}
rNeg   + . .     rCorr    +     (no shield)
rPois  +         rRot     +     g - +0 helmet {rF+}
rElec  +         Spirit   .     K - +0 cloak {MR+}
SustAb .         Warding  .     y - +1 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Stasis   .     I - +1 pair of boots {run}
Gourm  .                        i - amulet of resist corrosion
MR     +++..                    M - ring "Apon" {EV+5 Str+2}
                                F - ring "Lol No Cue" {MR+ Dex+3 Slay+5}

@: flying, repel missiles, quick, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments,
extremely unstealthy
A: able to fly continuously, big wings, clumsy 1, negative energy resistance 1,
electricity resistance, unbreathing, petrification resistance, rot immunity, AC
+13
a: Stop Flying, Upheaval, Elemental Force, Disaster Area, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Blink


You are on level 1 of the Abyss.
You worship Qazlal.
Qazlal is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 38 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 1 time.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Ossuary, Ice Cave, Volcano and Wizlab.

You have collected 3413 gold pieces.
You have spent 1528 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 s - the +8 hand crossbow of Uronon {elec, rPois}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It charges the ammunition it shoots with electricity; occasionally upon a
   hit, such missiles may discharge and cause terrible harm.
   
   It protects you from poison.
 G - a +0 antimagic dire flail
 Y - the +9 great mace of Obelaf (weapon) {elec, Noisy rPois Dex+2 Int+1}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)   
   
   Occasionally, upon striking a foe, it will discharge some electrical energy
   and cause terrible harm.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+1).
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It protects you from poison.
   It may make noises in combat.
Missiles
 R - 22 bolts
Armour
 g - a +0 helmet of fire resistance (worn)
 y - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
 I - a +1 pair of boots of running (worn)
 K - a +0 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
 O - the +4 chain mail of Ufamyn {+Blink rPois Dex+2 SInv}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It protects you from poison.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It lets you blink.
 Z - the +8 chain mail of Wonder (worn) {+Blink rC++}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)   
   
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It lets you blink.
Magical devices
 a - a wand of heal wounds {zapped: 1}
 A - a wand of digging {zapped: 2}
 D - a wand of hasting {zapped: 1}
 W - a curved lead wand
Comestibles
 d - 17 bread rations
 j - 17 meat rations
 Q - 15 fruits
Scrolls
 b - a scroll of magic mapping
 c - 10 scrolls of identify
 l - 2 scrolls of holy word
 m - 15 scrolls of remove curse
 u - 3 scrolls of enchant armour
 x - 7 scrolls of fog
 B - 2 scrolls of teleportation
Jewellery
 i - an amulet of resist corrosion (around neck)
 t - an uncursed ring of teleport control
 C - an uncursed ring of teleportation
 F - the ring "Lol No Cue" (left hand) {MR+ Dex+3 Slay+5}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   [ring of protection from magic]
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+5).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 M - the ring "Apon" (right hand) {EV+5 Str+2}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   
   It affects your evasion (+5).
   It affects your strength (+2).
 U - the ring of Dafuis {rC+ MR+ Int-3 Slay+1}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Spider Nest)   
   
   [ring of protection from magic]
   
   It affects your intelligence (-3).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+1).
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 X - an uncursed ring of flight
Potions
 e - 9 potions of might
 f - 7 potions of resistance
 h - 5 potions of cancellation
 k - 4 potions of cure mutation
 n - 3 potions of curing
 o - 3 potions of agility
 p - 4 potions of brilliance
 q - 3 potions of berserk rage
 v - a potion of flight
 w - 5 potions of haste
 z - 2 potions of lignification
 E - 4 potions of magic
 L - 5 potions of restore abilities
Books
 r - a book of Minor Magic   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Magic Dart                         Conjuration                  1
   *Blink                             Translocation                2
   *Call Imp                          Summoning                    2
   Repel Missiles                     Charms/Air                   2
   Slow                               Hexes                        2
   Conjure Flame                      Conjuration/Fire             3
   Mephitic Cloud                     Conjuration/Poison/Air       3
 N - the Disquisition on Gliding Augmentations
   (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Shock                              Conjuration/Air              1
   *Song of Slaying                   Charms                       2
   *Swiftness                         Charms/Air                   2
   Spectral Weapon                    Hexes/Charms                 3
   Silence                            Hexes/Air                    5
   Deflect Missiles                   Charms/Air                   6
 P - a book of Burglary   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Swiftness                         Charms/Air                   2
   Passwall                           Transmutation/Earth          3
   Passage of Golubria                Translocation                4
   Lee's Rapid Deconstruction         Earth                        5
   Invisibility                       Hexes                        6
   Darkness                           Hexes                        7
 S - a book of Debilitation   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Corona                             Hexes                        1
   Slow                               Hexes                        2
   Inner Flame                        Hexes/Fire                   3
   Enslavement                        Hexes                        4
   Cause Fear                         Hexes                        4
   Leda's Liquefaction                Hexes/Earth                  4
 T - a book of Beasts   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Summon Butterflies                Summoning                    1
   *Call Canine Familiar              Summoning                    3
   Summon Ice Beast                   Ice/Summoning                4
   Summon Mana Viper                  Hexes/Summoning              5
   Monstrous Menagerie                Summoning                    6
   Summon Hydra                       Summoning                    7
 V - Faocs' Spellcraft Continued
   (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Corpse Rot                         Necromancy                   2
   Cure Poison                        Poison                       2
   *Blink                             Translocation                2
   Sticks to Snakes                   Transmutation                2
   *Stoneskin                         Transmutation/Earth          2
Rods
 J - a rod of shadows
   (You took it off a deep elf conjurer on level 3 of the Elven Halls)


   Skills:
 - Level 17.5 Fighting
 * Level 16.6(16.8) Maces & Flails
   Level 4.8(12.1) Staves
 - Level 2.0 Crossbows
 - Level 14.4 Armour
 - Level 2.9 Dodging
   Level 7.2 Shields
 - Level 8.0 Spellcasting
 - Level 4.8 Charms
 - Level 10.0 Summonings
 - Level 2.4 Translocations
 - Level 2.1 Air Magic
 - Level 11.0 Earth Magic
 - Level 8.8 Invocations
 - Level 3.5 Evocations


You have 20 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          28%         2    None
b - Summon Butterflies    Summ           ####....     1%          1    None
c - Call Canine Familiar  Summ           ####....     1%          3    ###....
d - Call Imp              Summ           ####....     1%          2    None
e - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       ##......     14%         2    None
f - Song of Slaying       Chrm           ###.....     12%         2    None
g - Stoneskin             Trmt/Erth      ###.....     8%          2    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (12/15)            Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:12
    Elf (3/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:11          Swamp (5/5) Lair:3
 Spider (5/5) Lair:3        Slime (0/6) Lair:6     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:4 %   D:5 =   D:7 :((*   D:10 :   D:11 *   D:12 (   Orc:2 [(((=   Orc:4 :*[(

Annotations:
D:9 Burly Fighter's ghost, experienced GrFi
Swamp:5 Mara


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
You are immune to poison.
You can fly continuously.
Your stone body is very resilient (AC +13).
Your wings are large and strong.
You resist negative energy.
You are resistant to electric shocks.
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.
You are immune to rotting.
You are clumsy. (Dex -2)


Message History

The vampire closely misses you.
You bludgeon the vampire!!
You destroy the vampire!
Qazlal accepts your kill.
Eat which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Found a long sword.
A brown very ugly thing comes into view.
Found a gateway leading deeper into the Abyss.
A large abomination comes into view.
A blizzard demon comes into view.
You sock the brown very ugly thing!
The brown very ugly thing is lightly wounded.
The brown very ugly thing gores you but does no damage.
The blizzard demon waves its arms in wide circles.
The air twists around and violently strikes you in flight!
The blizzard demon gestures at you.
The bolt of lightning misses you.
Char dumped to 'morgue/BurlyFighter.txt'.
Saving game... please wait.

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You can see a brown very ugly thing, a blizzard demon and a large abomination.

Vanquished Creatures
  A bone dragon (Abyss:1)
  An Ice Fiend (IceCv)
  2 deep elf blademasters (Elf:3)
  2 deep elf master archers (Elf:3)
  A tentacled starspawn (Abyss:1)
  A lich (Abyss:1)
  An azure jelly (Swamp:1)
  4 thorn hunters
  A tengu reaver (D:12)
  3 ghost moths
  2 deep elf sorcerers (Elf:3)
  Louise (Elf:3)
  An orc warlord (Orc:3)
  Gastronok (Orc:2)
  A ghost moth (shapeshifter) (D:12)
  5 deep elf demonologists (Elf:3)
  5 deep elf annihilators
  Azrael (Elf:3)
  3 deep elf death magi (Elf:3)
  Snorg (Lair:3)
  A great orb of eyes (Abyss:1)
  2 deep elf high priests (Elf:3)
  Josephine (Orc:4)
  A jiangshi (Abyss:1)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  12 hydras
  A ghost crab (shapeshifter) (D:12)
  A deep troll earth mage (D:12)
  3 shambling mangroves
  5 centaur warriors (WizLab)
  8 alligators
  11 death yaks
  2 satyrs (WizLab)
  6 orc high priests
  A catoblepas (Lair:8)
  A thrashing horror (Abyss:1)
  Nergalle (D:11)
  A soul eater (Orc:4)
  A wretched star (Abyss:1)
  2 unseen horrors
  A spatial maelstrom (Abyss:1)
  Erolcha (Orc:2)
  2 sun demons
  12 deep elf knights
  7 ice devils
  10 deep elf summoners
  9 orb spiders
  3 ice statues (IceCv)
  15 deep elf conjurers
  A wolf spider zombie (Abyss:1)
  2 swamp dragons
  4 hill giants
  5 orc knights
  A cyclops (D:12)
  18 wolf spiders
  2 griffons
  4 orc sorcerers
  6 red wasps
  2 ugly things (D:11)
  A mana viper (shapeshifter) (Orc:4)
  4 fauns (WizLab)
  A shining eye (Abyss:1)
  3 sixfirhies
  A smoke demon (Abyss:1)
  8 elephants
  6 black mambas
  A feature mimic (Orc:3)
  A torpor snail (Spider:3)
  An efreet (D:12)
  2 orange demons
  3 gargoyles
  18 spiny frogs
  A kobold demonologist (D:11)
  2 hellwings
  An iron devil (Elf:3)
  7 demonic crawlers
  5 fire drakes
  4 deep elf priests
  5 komodo dragons
  3 anaconda simulacra (IceCv)
  4 blue devils (IceCv)
  5 freezing wraiths
  2 spriggan druids
  A hydra zombie (D:11)
  A golden dragon simulacrum (IceCv)
  7 baby alligators
  5 polar bears
  A two-headed ogre (Volcano)
  A wandering mushroom (WizLab)
  22 blink frogs
  2 giant leeches
  21 jumping spiders
  2 trolls
  2 raiju (Abyss:1)
  17 ravens
  21 slime creatures
  6 bog bodies
  A vampire (Abyss:1)
  25 deep elf magi
  6 basilisks
  9 trapdoor spiders
  2 hogs (Volcano)
  12 tarantellas
  41 redbacks
  13 spriggans
  3 shadows
  A wyvern (D:12)
  3 harpy simulacra (IceCv)
  17 yaks
  22 deep elf fighters
  Eustachio (D:9)
  A fire bat (Volcano)
  A hog (shapeshifter) (Elf:2)
  A steam dragon (Lair:6)
  A chaos spawn (Abyss:1)
  A neqoxec (Elf:2)
  Grum (Orc:1)
  A ynoxinul (Elf:3)
  48 wolves
  3 hungry ghosts
  A fire elemental (Elf:3)
  An iron troll simulacrum (IceCv)
  3 wargs
  10 hippogriffs
  3 hydra simulacra
  20 swamp worms
  9 porcupines
  9 vampire mosquitoes
  18 water moccasins
  6 ice beasts
  6 small abominations (Abyss:1)
  16 yellow wasps
  3 hell hounds (Elf:3)
  32 spiders
  40 orc warriors
  5 swamp drakes
  A manticore zombie (D:12)
  8 black bears
  3 necrophages
  6 sky beasts
  11 ogres
  3 phantoms
  23 centaurs
  Sigmund (D:3)
  3 boring beetles
  22 crocodiles
  A brain worm (D:12)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:6)
  2 earth elementals (WizLab)
  16 giant frogs
  11 insubstantial wisps
  4 troll zombies (D:12)
  A cyclops skeleton (D:12)
  2 eyes of draining
  6 electric eels
  3 scorpions
  22 killer bees
  2 wights
  2 centaur zombies (Ossuary)
  5 jellies
  A giant frog zombie (D:9)
  6 crimson imps
  A goliath beetle (D:7)
  8 hounds
  A yellow wasp zombie (D:7)
  A human zombie (Ossuary)
  6 two-headed ogre zombies (D:9)
  An iron imp (Abyss:1)
  25 orc priests
  12 iguanas
  9 worker ants
  7 spectral orcs (D:11)
  An orange rat (Elf:3)
  30 orc wizards
  7 sheep (Lair:3)
  A big kobold zombie (D:6)
  Ijyb (D:3)
  2 ogre zombies (D:12)
  An ogre skeleton (Orc:4)
  3 mummies (Ossuary)
  2 worker ant zombies (D:6)
  58 green rats
  3 gnolls
  4 shadow imps
  2 giant mites
  24 adders
  A goliath beetle zombie (D:6)
  2 worms (D:2)
  2 swamp drake simulacra (Swamp:5)
  An ufetubus (Elf:3)
  An iguana skeleton (D:4)
  6 giant geckos
  188 orcs
  A bat zombie (D:7)
  A gnoll zombie (Ossuary)
  18 goblins
  17 hobgoblins
  14 jackals
  12 bats
  9 giant cockroaches
  8 giant newts
  2 goblin skeletons
  5 goblin zombies
  A hobgoblin skeleton (Orc:4)
  3 hobgoblin zombies
  A jackal skeleton (D:7)
  13 kobolds
  A kobold zombie (D:8)
  An orc simulacrum (Orc:4)
  10 orc skeletons
  34 orc zombies
  14 quokkas
  A quokka skeleton (D:5)
  17 rats
  A rat skeleton (D:6)
  4 briar patches
  13 butterflies
  70 fungi
  37 plants
  5 toadstools (WizLab)
1689 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A deep elf high priest (Elf:3)
  A hydra (Swamp:5)
  A hill giant (D:5)
  A deep elf mage (Elf:1)
  A fire elemental (Spider:2)
  2 small abominations (Abyss:1)
  3 lost souls (Elf:3)
  A gnoll (D:5)
  An orc zombie (Orc:4)
  A quokka (D:7)
  A giant spore (D:12)
  A lurking horror (Abyss:1)
  2 orc skeletons (Orc:4)
  A ballistomycete (D:12)
  2 briar patches (WizLab)
  4 butterflies
  2 crawling corpses (Elf:1)
  5 fungi
  A plant (Lair:8)
32 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1721 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Burly Fighter, the Gargoyle Fighter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 1/1
   220 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 2/2
   819 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 18/23 MP: 3/3
  1002 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
  1148 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 21/28 MP: 4/4
  1250 | D:2      | Noticed a moth of wrath
  1251 | D:2      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  1990 | D:3      | Noticed Sigmund
  2017 | D:3      | Killed Sigmund
  2017 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  2017 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 18/32 MP: 5/5
  2147 | D:3      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  2174 | D:3      | Noticed Ijyb
  2191 | D:3      | Killed Ijyb
  2741 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 37/37 MP: 6/6
  3805 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  3965 | D:4      | Found Irchakal's Food Boutique.
  4172 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4231 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Armour
  4231 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/41 MP: 7/7
  4372 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4372 | D:5      | Noticed a hill giant
  4788 | D:5      | Found Goqim's Jewellery Emporium.
  4825 | D:5      | Killed a hill giant
  4925 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5005 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Qazlal Stormbringer
  5129 | D:6      | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  5136 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  5144 | Ossuary  | Entered an ossuary
  5698 | D:7      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  6069 | D:6      | Noticed a hippogriff
  6084 | D:6      | Killed a hippogriff
  6084 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 23/51 MP: 8/8
  6691 | D:6      | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
  6721 | D:6      | Acquired Qazlal's first power
  6835 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
  7494 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 55/55 MP: 18/18
  7504 | D:7      | Found Psy Stron's Book Boutique.
  7571 | D:7      | Found Ticruty's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
  7682 | D:7      | Reached skill level 7 in Armour
  7770 | D:7      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  7874 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Armour
  7917 | D:6      | Acquired Qazlal's second power
  8530 | D:7      | Found Pramarch's Antique Weapon Boutique.
  9027 | D:7      | Found Lupt's Assorted Antiques.
  9100 | D:7      | Bought an embroidered cloak for 117 gold pieces
  9500 | D:8      | Got a crude chain mail
  9511 | D:8      | Identified the +4 chain mail of Ufamyn {+Blink rPois Dex+2 SInv} (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  9606 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  9692 | D:8      | Noticed a gargoyle
  9792 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 64/64 MP: 20/20
  9803 | D:9      | Noticed Burly Fighter's ghost (experienced GrFi)
  9836 | D:9      | HP: 2/64 [crimson imp/dagger of chaos (16)]
  9962 | D:9      | Noticed Eustachio
  9973 | D:9      | Killed Eustachio
 10439 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 10535 | D:10     | Acquired Qazlal's third power
 10791 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
 10807 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 10820 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 11133 | D:10     | Found Selenwuc's Book Shop.
 11598 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 11999 | D:11     | Found Ritiv's Assorted Antiques.
 12125 | D:11     | Acquired Qazlal's fourth power
 12212 | D:11     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 57/69 MP: 7/22
 12213 | D:11     | Noticed a hill giant
 12224 | D:11     | Killed a hill giant
 12224 | D:11     | Reached skill level 9 in Fighting
 12480 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 12689 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 12689 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 12748 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 12793 | D:11     | Noticed a white ugly thing
 12811 | D:11     | Killed a white ugly thing
 13169 | D:9      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 13180 | D:9      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 13554 | D:8      | Killed a gargoyle
 13839 | D:11     | Noticed a hill giant
 13851 | D:11     | Killed a hill giant
 13855 | D:11     | Noticed a green ugly thing
 13873 | D:11     | Killed a green ugly thing
 14022 | D:11     | Noticed Nergalle
 14061 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 14124 | Lair:1   | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 14164 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 15461 | Lab      | Noticed a minotaur
 15476 | Lab      | Killed a minotaur
 15478 | Lab      | Got a twisted great sword {flame}
 15483 | Lab      | Identified the Almanac of Ignition and Combat Magic
 15484 | Lab      | Got a polished great mace
 15484 | Lab      | Got a twisted chain mail
 15485 | Lab      | Identified the +9 great mace of Obelaf {elec, Noisy rPois Dex+2 Int+1} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 15486 | Lab      | Identified the +10 great sword of Wealth {flame, Int+2} (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth)
 15498 | Lab      | Identified the +8 chain mail of Wonder {+Blink rC++} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 15655 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Staves
 15685 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 76/76 MP: 27/27
 15812 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
 16139 | Lair:1   | Got a steaming hand crossbow
 16140 | Lair:1   | Identified the +8 hand crossbow of Uronon {elec, rPois} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
 16416 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
 16581 | Lair:2   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 16584 | Lair:2   | Acquired Qazlal's fifth power
 16589 | Lair:2   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 17008 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
 17148 | Lair:3   | Got a sparkling bronze ring
 17150 | Lair:3   | Identified the ring "Apon" {EV+5 Str+2} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 17272 | Lair:3   | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies
 17278 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 17310 | Lair:3   | Noticed Snorg
 17313 | Lair:3   | Killed Snorg
 17313 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 73/80 MP: 28/28
 17346 | Lair:3   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 17824 | Lair:3   | Got a dull robe
 17835 | Lair:3   | Identified the +4 robe of Vanity {Str-1 Int+3} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 17879 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
 19690 | Lair:6   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 19693 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 20633 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Summonings
 20633 | Lair:6   | Gained mutation: Your wings are large and strong. [gargoyle growth]
 20633 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 41/86 MP: 29/29
 20787 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
 20812 | Lair:7   | Learned a level 3 spell: Call Canine Familiar
 20815 | Lair:7   | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp
 21416 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 21482 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 23039 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 23086 | Swamp:1  | Reached XP level 15. HP: 95/100 MP: 29/29
 23184 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 23404 | Swamp:1  | Found a frozen archway.
 23406 | Swamp:1  | Noticed an azure jelly
 23418 | Swamp:1  | Killed an azure jelly
 23488 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 23765 | IceCv    | Noticed an Ice Fiend
 23769 | IceCv    | Killed an Ice Fiend
 24289 | IceCv    | Got a creamy pearl robe
 24300 | IceCv    | Identified the +1 robe of the Hidden Vale {rElec} (You found it in an ice cave)
 24741 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 25690 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
 26135 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Fighting
 27126 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 27126 | Spider:2 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 87/108 MP: 8/30
 27978 | Spider:3 | Got a vibrating bone ring
 27981 | Spider:3 | Identified the ring of Dafuis {rC+ MR+ Int-3 Slay+1} (You found it on level 3 of the Spider Nest)
 28228 | Spider:3 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 29417 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
 30395 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
 32052 | Swamp:4  | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
 32182 | Swamp:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp
 32190 | Swamp:5  | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
 32193 | Swamp:5  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 89/113 MP: 31/31
 32304 | Swamp:5  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 32699 | Swamp:4  | HP: 1/113 [spriggan druid/angry trees (7)]
 33247 | Swamp:5  | Killed a thorn hunter
 33473 | Swamp:5  | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
 33752 | Swamp:5  | Noticed Mara
 33755 | Swamp:5  | Noticed Burly Fighter's illusion
 33935 | D:11     | Killed Nergalle
 34321 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 34404 | D:12     | Found Duokaid's Weapon Emporium.
 35167 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 35334 | Orc:1    | Found a dark tunnel.
 35351 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 35845 | Orc:2    | Found Pestiac's Weapon Shoppe.
 35847 | Orc:2    | Found Sexzok's Weapon Shoppe.
 35847 | Orc:2    | Noticed Gastronok
 35882 | Orc:2    | Killed Gastronok
 36091 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 36303 | Orc:2    | Noticed Grum
 36315 | Orc:1    | Reached skill level 1 in Crossbows
 36343 | Orc:1    | Killed Grum
 36408 | Orc:2    | Found Emiunk's Jewellery Shop.
 36447 | Orc:2    | Bought the ring "Lol No Cue" {MR+ Dex+3 Slay+5} for 830 gold pieces
 36852 | Orc:2    | Found Twamnaiw's Armour Emporium.
 36852 | Orc:2    | Found Thrakhadi's Weapon Shoppe.
 36852 | Orc:2    | Noticed Erolcha
 36856 | Orc:2    | Killed Erolcha
 36870 | Orc:2    | Bought a +1 pair of boots of running for 511 gold pieces
 36895 | Orc:2    | Bought 22 bolts for 70 gold pieces
 37121 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 37188 | Orc:4    | Noticed Josephine
 37192 | Orc:4    | Killed Josephine
 37287 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 38598 | Orc:4    | Found Enouxau's General Store.
 38600 | Orc:4    | Found Creorgh's Book Shoppe.
 38601 | Orc:4    | Found Coumewae's Antique Armour Emporium.
 38601 | Orc:4    | Found Piveoj's Antique Weapon Emporium.
 38746 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 39168 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting
 39191 | Elf:1    | Reached XP level 18. HP: 96/120 MP: 32/32
 39335 | Elf:1    | Found a magical portal.
 39340 | WizLab   | Entered Eringya's Formal Garden
 39448 | WizLab   | Identified Faocs' Spellcraft Continued (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)
 39452 | WizLab   | Identified Plog's Witchery, Part Four (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)
 39748 | WizLab   | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 39759 | WizLab   | Reached skill level 17 in Fighting
 39778 | WizLab   | Identified the Disquisition on Gliding Augmentations (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)
 39782 | WizLab   | Learned a level 2 spell: Song of Slaying
 39801 | WizLab   | Identified the Disquisition on Beguiling (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)
 40875 | Elf:2    | Learned a level 2 spell: Stoneskin
 40934 | Elf:2    | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic
 41317 | Elf:3    | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
 41642 | Elf:3    | Reached skill level 5 in Earth Magic
 41661 | Elf:3    | Got a jewelled chain mail
 41672 | Elf:3    | Identified the cursed +2 chain mail "Psiow" {+Blink +Fly rN+} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 41924 | Elf:3    | Noticed Louise
 41931 | Elf:3    | Killed Louise
 42150 | Elf:3    | Noticed a Hell Sentinel
 42186 | Elf:3    | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [a cacodemon]
 42190 | Elf:3    | Noticed Azrael
 42573 | Elf:3    | Killed Azrael
 42604 | Elf:3    | Noticed a Brimstone Fiend
 42623 | Elf:3    | Reached skill level 10 in Earth Magic
 42665 | Elf:3    | Reached XP level 19. HP: 97/128 MP: 30/33
 42710 | Elf:3    | Cast into the Abyss (deep elf sorcerer)
 42750 | Abyss:1  | Noticed a profane servitor
 43166 | Abyss:1  | Noticed a bone dragon
 43188 | Abyss:1  | Killed a bone dragon
 43190 | Abyss:1  | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 43244 | Abyss:1  | Noticed a bone dragon


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Flail             |   145 |   278 |   644 |   321 |       |       |       ||  1388
       Dire flail        |       |       |       |   280 |       |       |       ||   280
       Great mace        |       |       |       |   192 |   923 |  1558 |   110 ||  2783
 Fire: Shortbow          |       |       |       |     2 |       |       |       ||     2
 Cast: Summon Butterflie |       |       |       |       |     6 |       |     1 ||     7
       Song of Slaying   |       |       |       |       |       |     9 |       ||     9
       Stoneskin         |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
Invok: Upheaval          |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
       Elemental Force   |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
 Abil: Evoke Blink       |       |       |       |     3 |       |     4 |     3 ||    10
       Fly               |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |     1 ||     3
       Stop Flying       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |     6 |     6 |     3 |     2 ||    17
  Use: Scroll            |     5 |     4 |     9 |     7 |    11 |    15 |     3 ||    54
       Potion            |       |       |     2 |     7 |     5 |     8 |     1 ||    23
 Stab: Confused          |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Invisible         |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     1 |    10 |    10 |    14 |    22 |    30 |       ||    87
       Beef jerky        |       |       |     2 |     6 |     2 |     2 |       ||    12
       Meat ration       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |     1 ||     3
       Fruit             |       |       |       |       |     1 |    18 |     2 ||    21
       Pizza             |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1

Should I go deeper, or should I just keep looking for an exit on this floor?

[TripJack]

i'd advise waiting a bit and getting rMut before going for the rune, and if you're not going for the rune i would stay on the top floor

[Rex_Nex]

Having a lot of fun with a Formicid of Qazlal. The excellent defenses really help you stay alive while getting swarmed - although I probably should of gone with axes, not maces.

Oddly enough I've been barraged with benemut, exp, and acquirement - 3 of each, and I just finished Lair. Less fortunately, trying to use acquirement to get something better than my flail has been a waste of the scrolls - I don't need a bunch of unimpressive polearms, damnit!

[Mindmaker]

Any way to disable the message for hitting yourself with spells?
It doubles my keystrokes with Air Elementalists.

Putting # allow_self_target = yes in my rc file does nothing.

[Robsoie]

The # should mean that the game will ignore that line, so you should add it but without the # in front of it

[Dr Feelgood]

Any way to disable the message for hitting yourself with spells?
It doubles my keystrokes with Air Elementalists.

Putting # allow_self_target = yes in my rc file does nothing.

It should be this:

Code: [Select]

allow_self_target = no

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/DrFeelgood.rc

[Mindmaker]

Interesting, I assumed since you put an # for the tournamend registration, it would work here as well.
Thanks guys.

Edit:
For some reason changing it to yes only applies when directly targeting yourself, not for the warning on indirect hits.
Is there another command?

[Dr Feelgood]

Well, 'allow_self_target' doesn't work on cloud spells. Setting it to 'yes' seems pointless, unless you want to hit yourself with a wand/beam spell. If you want to remove the message, then maybe something like this:

Code: [Select]

message_colour += mute:That beam is likely
runrest_ignore_message += That beam is likely

...might work.

[Mindmaker]

Thanks, although does that also work on prompts?
I guess I'll check that out on the next AE.

Ashenzari or Vehumet for an Earth Elementalist?
I guess Ashenzari could help you with regular survivability, through knowing where dangers work, while Vehumet is better for any kind of extended game.
Also do they have reliable ways of dealing with masses of enemies when walls aren't nearby? Petrify + LRD/Shatter seems to take a bit of time to set up.

[lemon10]

Shatter on its own works pretty good against groups of enemies (presuming that they aren't flying/insubstantial (like many lategame enemies are)).

But besides those, no. You would have to learn some spells from different schools if you want better group damage then those provide.

[Robsoie]

My only winning earth elementalist (back in 0.8 ) switched to clouds (Poisonous and Freezing clouds and if you can get Ignite Poison to transform the poisonous cloud into fire clouds) as soon as he could, from my play with Poisonous cloud in a recent Deep Elf win, it's still great for massed enemies in 0.15 .

And getting some summoning and/or necromancy is always good to get some meat/undead shield.

Additionally clouds are much cheaper than Shatter ( level 6 spells vs level 9 ! ).

[DJ]

Minotaur Berserker.

[Mindmaker]

Berserker combinations. Hill Orc, Minotaur are good. Kobolds are a nice nimble variant that let your berserk in a carefree way (although food is so common it doesn't matter).
Fighter has a bit of a rougher start but can still be very good once he finds Okawaru.
Troll Monk has a very powerful earlygame.

[flame99]

As for the wands, doesn't Trog not mind evocations?