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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #12645 on: September 08, 2014, 09:59:37 am »

Little thing :
You're still putting XP in maces & flails ? ._.
Also, why didn't you use Ash's special ability to get M&F's XP into Axes, when you found the Mithril one ?
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #12646 on: September 08, 2014, 10:18:40 am »

Mostly because i use both axes and maces/flail (the axe for the main killing stuff, the holy flail when demons and undead, Mara probably noticed when i switched :D and the morningstar when i need electric resistance) so i keep high skill with both.

If i transfered the xp of one category into another, wouldn't this mean my character would much less effective when he was switching to the weapon that skill would then have gone down ?

Additionally it's the major reason i didn't cursed my weapon too, as i switch regularly.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2014, 10:20:52 am by Robsoie »
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« Reply #12647 on: September 08, 2014, 10:25:38 am »

Nevermind about my previous comment about throwing, it seems its part of the ranged combat overhaul and is true for all ranged weaponry.

I guess it does balance it out, at least early game. Truth be told, I'm having a hard time saying ranged is better than melee outside of kiting. Missing with your entire stack of starting arrows is entirely possible, I actually had to keep another weapon around because using a 0 skill mace was much more reliable than my centaur's bow. I'm not a fan, ranged combat is just frustrating to me now.

Will have to see what it's like at high skill, I suppose.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #12648 on: September 08, 2014, 10:41:20 am »

Robsoie, as much as I really enjoy reading and looking through your posts (and I really do!), could you please spoiler them in future?

A lot of people come here looking for help and it's kinda hard to keep track when each of your posts take up half a page each.

Again, please keep posting them, just spoiler them in future!
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #12649 on: September 08, 2014, 10:45:18 am »

Nevermind about my previous comment about throwing, it seems its part of the ranged combat overhaul and is true for all ranged weaponry.

I guess it does balance it out, at least early game. Truth be told, I'm having a hard time saying ranged is better than melee outside of kiting. Missing with your entire stack of starting arrows is entirely possible, I actually had to keep another weapon around because using a 0 skill mace was much more reliable than my centaur's bow. I'm not a fan, ranged combat is just frustrating to me now.

Will have to see what it's like at high skill, I suppose.

My impression was that ranged combat is really buffed in the late game, firing a triple crossbow feels like throwing an executioner's axe into someone's face
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #12650 on: September 08, 2014, 10:52:33 am »

Nevermind about my previous comment about throwing, it seems its part of the ranged combat overhaul and is true for all ranged weaponry.

I guess it does balance it out, at least early game. Truth be told, I'm having a hard time saying ranged is better than melee outside of kiting. Missing with your entire stack of starting arrows is entirely possible, I actually had to keep another weapon around because using a 0 skill mace was much more reliable than my centaur's bow. I'm not a fan, ranged combat is just frustrating to me now.

Will have to see what it's like at high skill, I suppose.

My impression was that ranged combat is really buffed in the late game, firing a triple crossbow feels like throwing an executioner's axe into someone's face

At a high skill level it's pretty much as Antioch says. It's a little bit tricky to get off the ground, and unlike in other games (or other skills in crawl) it's pretty much impossible to *only* use ranged till at least mid game. I normally just use a good melee (anything decent/branded) weapon for the first few floors, using ranged to soften stuff up. Once my ranged is about lv.10 or so and I've got heaps of arrows then you can really go to town on stuff.

Once you've got it going and a good supply of arrows/bolts its fantastic - it's pretty much like having bolt of fire/cold/venom and mystic blast all hunger free, plus silver for imps/demons, and dispersal for if stuff gets too close. Add in Portal projectile and you've got an incredibly powerful smite-type ability.

I've only ever used throwing as a way of softening up enemies (as crossbows/slings/whatever can be for a melee build) and it works great. Taking down an ogre to half health before it gets to you can be the difference between life or death early game, and even in late game being able to take of 1/3 health for little skill investment is great.





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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #12651 on: September 08, 2014, 10:53:32 am »

Speaking of ranged, are bows still the best option?
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #12652 on: September 08, 2014, 10:56:38 am »

Maybe its just the weapon? I noticed that the short bow, even with ~8 or so skill, did almost nothing over 20 or so shots to ijyb with chainmail (edit: ringmail, sorry. chainmail wouldve made much more sense). In fact, pretty much any opponent with AC was nearly invulnerable to me. Coupled with the accuracy, a lot of things managed to crawl across the screen to me unscathed. It just doesn't feel right.

I'll try ignoring the bow for a few floors, too used to how godlike ranged combat used to be.
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« Reply #12653 on: September 08, 2014, 11:42:36 am »

Apparently with the ranged stat decoupling XBows are also good.
Sling are pretty bad though from what I heard.
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« Reply #12654 on: September 08, 2014, 12:22:39 pm »

So it was time to put my unstoppable Minotaur Fighter of Ashenzari to his final test, Zot.

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15.0 (tiles) character file.

2247543 Zorg the Slayer (level 27, 242/256 HPs)
             Began as a Minotaur Fighter on Sept 7, 2014.
             Was the Champion of Ashenzari.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 4 runes on Sept 8, 2014!
             
             The game lasted 05:47:38 (78730 turns).

Zorg the Slayer (Minotaur Fighter)                 Turns: 78730, Time: 05:47:38

HP 242/256       AC 39     Str 33      XL: 27
MP  26/39        EV 23     Int  5      God: Ashenzari [******]
Gold 8983        SH 19     Dex 18      Spells:  0 memorised, 26 levels left

rFire  + + +     SeeInvis +     Q - +8 mithril axe "Arga" {speed, MR+ Str+2}
rCold  + + +     Clarity  +     e - +1 gold dragon armour (curse)
rNeg   + + +     rCorr    +     r - +0 shield {AC+3} (curse)
rPois  +         rRot     .     h - +2 hat of the Bear Spirit {Spirit, +Rage rN+ MR++}
rElec  +         Spirit   +     O - +2 cloak "Jureyr" {rC+ MR+ Slay+5}
SustAb .         Warding  .     a - +2 pair of fencer's gloves {EV+3 Dex+6 Slay+2}
rMut   .         Stasis   .     S - -4 pair of boots of the Desert {+Blink rN+ SInv}
Gourm  .                        n - cursed amulet "Naofuc" {+Rage +Fly rF+ MR++}
MR     +++++                    V - cursed ring "Kirghi Heytip" {+Blink Int-1 Stlth+}
                                i - cursed ring "Twas" {rF+ rN+}

@: exhausted, resistant, slowed, very slow, almost entirely resistant to hostile
enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2
a: Scrying, Transfer Knowledge, Renounce Religion, Evoke Blink, Evoke Berserk
Rage, Evoke Flight
0: Orb of Zot
}: 4/15 runes: barnacled, slimy, silver, gossamer


You escaped.
You worshipped Ashenzari.
Ashenzari was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 12 branches of the dungeon, and saw 65 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 1 time.
You visited 1 bazaar.
You also visited: Labyrinth, Ice Cave and Wizlab.

You collected 10500 gold pieces.
You spent 1517 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 p - the +5 morningstar of Inconvenience {elec, +Rage rElec rPois Stlth+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Shoals)   
   
   Occasionally, upon striking a foe, it will discharge some electrical energy
   and cause terrible harm.
   
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from poison.
   It lets you go berserk.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 G - the +6 flail of the Peculiar Runes {holy, rC+ SInv}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)   
   
   It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage to the undead
   and demons.
   
   It protects you from cold.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 Q - the +8 mithril axe "Arga" (weapon) {speed, MR+ Str+2}
   (You took it off a deep elf demonologist on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   Attacks with this weapon are significantly faster.
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Armour
 a - the cursed +2 pair of fencer's gloves (worn) {EV+3 Dex+6 Slay+2}
   (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)   
   
   It affects your evasion (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+6).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+2).
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 e - a cursed +1 gold dragon armour (worn)
 h - the cursed +2 hat of the Bear Spirit (worn) {Spirit, +Rage rN+ MR++}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you go berserk.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 r - a cursed +0 shield of protection (worn)
 O - the cursed +2 cloak "Jureyr" (worn) {rC+ MR+ Slay+5}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)   
   
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+5).
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 S - the cursed -4 pair of boots of the Desert (worn) {+Blink rN+ SInv}
   (You acquired it on level 2 of the Vaults)   
   
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It lets you blink.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
Magical devices
 f - a wand of enslavement (11)
 g - a wand of digging (10)
 l - a wand of digging (0)
 t - a wand of heal wounds (9)
 u - a wand of teleportation (4)
 B - a wand of enslavement (8)
 E - a wand of enslavement (8)
 H - a wand of fire (4)
 J - a wand of draining (4)
 L - a wand of fire (11)
 P - a wand of slowing (11)
 U - a wand of lightning (12)
 Z - a wand of teleportation (6)
Comestibles
 d - 15 bread rations
Scrolls
 c - 4 scrolls of summoning
 m - 14 scrolls of blinking
 w - 10 scrolls of fear
 x - 20 scrolls of teleportation
 A - 5 scrolls of holy word
 X - 6 scrolls of silence
Jewellery
 i - the cursed ring "Twas" (left hand) {rF+ rN+}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)   
   
   [ring of positive energy]
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 k - the ring of Siutreem {rElec rN+ MR+ Str+1}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)   
   
   [ring of positive energy]
   
   It affects your strength (+1).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 n - the cursed amulet "Naofuc" (around neck) {+Rage +Fly rF+ MR++}
   (You found it in an ice cave)   
   
   [amulet of rage]
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you fly.
   It lets you go berserk.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 s - an uncursed ring of ice
 y - an uncursed ring of regeneration
 D - a +6 ring of strength
 F - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 N - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 V - the cursed ring "Kirghi Heytip" (right hand) {+Blink Int-1 Stlth+}
   (You found it in an ice cave)   
   
   [ring of stealth]
   
   It affects your intelligence (-1).
   It lets you blink.
   It makes you more stealthy.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 W - the ring of Red Wine {rN+ Str+3 Int-1}
   (You took it off a deep elf annihilator on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of positive energy]
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your intelligence (-1).
   It protects you from negative energy.
Potions
 j - 2 potions of berserk rage
 o - 14 potions of restore abilities
 q - 13 potions of haste
 v - 3 potions of cure mutation
 z - 17 potions of curing
 M - 3 potions of heal wounds
 R - 4 potions of cancellation
 Y - 2 potions of resistance
Miscellaneous
 b - the horn of Geryon
 C - a stone of tremors
 I - a fan of gales
 K - a lamp of fire
 T - a phial of floods


   Skills:
 + Level 22,8 Fighting
 + Level 22,5(25,5) Axes
 + Level 21,9(25,2) Maces & Flails
 + Level 22,6(27) Armour
 + Level 20,7 Dodging
 + Level 22,4(24,5) Shields
 + Level 19,4(22,9) Evocations


You had 26 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (0/1) D:4             Orc (4/4) D:9
    Elf (3/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:10         Shoals (5/5) Lair:4
 Spider (5/5) Lair:3        Slime (6/6) Lair:6       Vaults (5/5) D:13
  Crypt (3/3) Vaults:3       Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3      Depths (5/5) D:15
   Hell (1/1)                 Zot (5/5) Depths:5   
   Dis: Hell:1         Geh: Hell:1         Coc: Hell:1         Tar: Hell:1

Altars:
Ashenzari
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Okawaru
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Beogh

Shops:
D:9 }   Orc:1 (   Orc:3 (   Orc:4 %**   Shoals:3 (   Shoals:5 ?   Vaults:2 %
Vaults:3 }   Vaults:4 %

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Pandemonium: Depths:2 Depths:3
Ziggurat: Depths:4
Trove: Depths:3 (give +3 ice dragon armour)

Annotations:
Crypt:2 exclusion: curse skull


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #12655 on: September 08, 2014, 01:38:57 pm »

Nevermind about my previous comment about throwing, it seems its part of the ranged combat overhaul and is true for all ranged weaponry.

I guess it does balance it out, at least early game. Truth be told, I'm having a hard time saying ranged is better than melee outside of kiting. Missing with your entire stack of starting arrows is entirely possible, I actually had to keep another weapon around because using a 0 skill mace was much more reliable than my centaur's bow. I'm not a fan, ranged combat is just frustrating to me now.

Will have to see what it's like at high skill, I suppose.

My impression was that ranged combat is really buffed in the late game, firing a triple crossbow feels like throwing an executioner's axe into someone's face

At a high skill level it's pretty much as Antioch says. It's a little bit tricky to get off the ground, and unlike in other games (or other skills in crawl) it's pretty much impossible to *only* use ranged till at least mid game. I normally just use a good melee (anything decent/branded) weapon for the first few floors, using ranged to soften stuff up. Once my ranged is about lv.10 or so and I've got heaps of arrows then you can really go to town on stuff.

Once you've got it going and a good supply of arrows/bolts its fantastic - it's pretty much like having bolt of fire/cold/venom and mystic blast all hunger free, plus silver for imps/demons, and dispersal for if stuff gets too close. Add in Portal projectile and you've got an incredibly powerful smite-type ability.

I've only ever used throwing as a way of softening up enemies (as crossbows/slings/whatever can be for a melee build) and it works great. Taking down an ogre to half health before it gets to you can be the difference between life or death early game, and even in late game being able to take of 1/3 health for little skill investment is great.
Yeah, in my limited experience, throwing is pretty useful, especially if you're with oku or trog since they will just gift you tons of branded javelins/tomahawks.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #12656 on: September 08, 2014, 01:52:08 pm »

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15.0 (tiles) character file.

Burly Fighter the Warrior (Gargoyle Fighter)       Turns: 42714, Time: 01:52:29

HP  58/128       AC 46     Str 28      XL: 19   Next:  7%
MP  33/33        EV 14     Int 12      God: Qazlal [******]
Gold 1844        SH  8     Dex 12      Spells:  7 memorised, 20 levels left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis .     Y - +9 great mace of Obelaf {elec, Noisy rPois Dex+2 Int+1}
rCold  + + .     Clarity  .     Z - +8 chain mail of Wonder {+Blink rC++}
rNeg   + . .     rCorr    +     (no shield)
rPois  +         rRot     +     g - +0 helmet {rF+}
rElec  +         Spirit   .     K - +0 cloak {MR+}
SustAb .         Warding  .     y - +1 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Stasis   .     I - +1 pair of boots {run}
Gourm  .                        i - amulet of resist corrosion
MR     +++..                    M - ring "Apon" {EV+5 Str+2}
                                F - ring "Lol No Cue" {MR+ Dex+3 Slay+5}

@: protected from physical damage, repel missiles, quick, extremely resistant to
hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: able to fly continuously, big wings, clumsy 1, negative energy resistance 1,
electricity resistance, unbreathing, petrification resistance, rot immunity, AC
+13
a: Fly, Upheaval, Elemental Force, Disaster Area, Renounce Religion, Evoke Blink


You are on level 1 of the Abyss.
You worship Qazlal.
Qazlal is exalted by your worship.
You are near starving.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 38 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 1 time.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Ossuary, Ice Cave, Volcano and Wizlab.

You have collected 3372 gold pieces.
You have spent 1528 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 s - the +8 hand crossbow of Uronon {elec, rPois}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It charges the ammunition it shoots with electricity; occasionally upon a
   hit, such missiles may discharge and cause terrible harm.
   
   It protects you from poison.
 G - a +0 antimagic dire flail
 Y - the +9 great mace of Obelaf (weapon) {elec, Noisy rPois Dex+2 Int+1}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)   
   
   Occasionally, upon striking a foe, it will discharge some electrical energy
   and cause terrible harm.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+1).
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It protects you from poison.
   It may make noises in combat.
Missiles
 R - 22 bolts
Armour
 g - a +0 helmet of fire resistance (worn)
 y - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
 I - a +1 pair of boots of running (worn)
 K - a +0 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
 O - the +4 chain mail of Ufamyn {+Blink rPois Dex+2 SInv}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It protects you from poison.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It lets you blink.
 Z - the +8 chain mail of Wonder (worn) {+Blink rC++}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)   
   
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It lets you blink.
Magical devices
 a - a wand of heal wounds {zapped: 1}
 A - a wand of digging {zapped: 2}
 D - a wand of hasting {zapped: 1}
 W - a curved lead wand
Comestibles
 d - 17 bread rations
 j - 16 meat rations
 Q - 17 fruits
Scrolls
 b - a scroll of magic mapping
 c - 9 scrolls of identify
 l - a scroll of holy word
 m - 15 scrolls of remove curse
 u - 3 scrolls of enchant armour
 x - 7 scrolls of fog
 B - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 H - a scroll of recharging
Jewellery
 i - an amulet of resist corrosion (around neck)
 t - an uncursed ring of teleport control
 C - an uncursed ring of teleportation
 F - the ring "Lol No Cue" (left hand) {MR+ Dex+3 Slay+5}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   [ring of protection from magic]
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+5).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 M - the ring "Apon" (right hand) {EV+5 Str+2}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   
   It affects your evasion (+5).
   It affects your strength (+2).
 U - the ring of Dafuis {rC+ MR+ Int-3 Slay+1}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Spider Nest)   
   
   [ring of protection from magic]
   
   It affects your intelligence (-3).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+1).
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Potions
 e - 9 potions of might
 f - 7 potions of resistance
 h - 5 potions of cancellation
 k - 4 potions of cure mutation
 n - 3 potions of curing
 o - 3 potions of agility
 p - 4 potions of brilliance
 q - 3 potions of berserk rage
 v - a potion of flight
 w - 6 potions of haste
 z - 2 potions of lignification
 E - 4 potions of magic
 L - 5 potions of restore abilities
 X - a potion of invisibility
Books
 r - a book of Minor Magic   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Magic Dart                         Conjuration                  1
   *Blink                             Translocation                2
   *Call Imp                          Summoning                    2
   Repel Missiles                     Charms/Air                   2
   Slow                               Hexes                        2
   Conjure Flame                      Conjuration/Fire             3
   Mephitic Cloud                     Conjuration/Poison/Air       3
 N - the Disquisition on Gliding Augmentations
   (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Shock                              Conjuration/Air              1
   *Song of Slaying                   Charms                       2
   *Swiftness                         Charms/Air                   2
   Spectral Weapon                    Hexes/Charms                 3
   Silence                            Hexes/Air                    5
   Deflect Missiles                   Charms/Air                   6
 P - a book of Burglary   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Swiftness                         Charms/Air                   2
   Passwall                           Transmutation/Earth          3
   Passage of Golubria                Translocation                4
   Lee's Rapid Deconstruction         Earth                        5
   Invisibility                       Hexes                        6
   Darkness                           Hexes                        7
 S - a book of Debilitation   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Corona                             Hexes                        1
   Slow                               Hexes                        2
   Inner Flame                        Hexes/Fire                   3
   Enslavement                        Hexes                        4
   Cause Fear                         Hexes                        4
   Leda's Liquefaction                Hexes/Earth                  4
 T - a book of Beasts   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Summon Butterflies                Summoning                    1
   *Call Canine Familiar              Summoning                    3
   Summon Ice Beast                   Ice/Summoning                4
   Summon Mana Viper                  Hexes/Summoning              5
   Monstrous Menagerie                Summoning                    6
   Summon Hydra                       Summoning                    7
 V - Faocs' Spellcraft Continued
   (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Corpse Rot                         Necromancy                   2
   Cure Poison                        Poison                       2
   *Blink                             Translocation                2
   Sticks to Snakes                   Transmutation                2
   *Stoneskin                         Transmutation/Earth          2
Rods
 J - a rod of shadows
   (You took it off a deep elf conjurer on level 3 of the Elven Halls)


   Skills:
 - Level 17.5 Fighting
 * Level 15.8(16.1) Maces & Flails
   Level 4.8(11.6) Staves
 - Level 2.0 Crossbows
 - Level 14.4 Armour
 - Level 2.9 Dodging
   Level 7.2 Shields
 - Level 8.0 Spellcasting
 - Level 4.8 Charms
 - Level 10.0 Summonings
 - Level 2.4 Translocations
 - Level 2.1 Air Magic
 - Level 11.0 Earth Magic
 - Level 8.8 Invocations
 - Level 3.5 Evocations


You have 20 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          28%         2    None
b - Summon Butterflies    Summ           ####....     1%          1    None
c - Call Canine Familiar  Summ           ####....     1%          3    ###....
d - Call Imp              Summ           ####....     1%          2    None
e - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       ##......     14%         2    None
f - Song of Slaying       Chrm           ###.....     12%         2    None
g - Stoneskin             Trmt/Erth      ###.....     8%          2    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (12/15)            Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:12
    Elf (3/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:11          Swamp (5/5) Lair:3
 Spider (5/5) Lair:3        Slime (0/6) Lair:6     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:4 %   D:5 =   D:7 :((*   D:10 :   D:11 *   D:12 (   Orc:2 [(((=   Orc:4 :*[(

Annotations:
D:9 Burly Fighter's ghost, experienced GrFi
Swamp:5 Mara


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
You are immune to poison.
You can fly continuously.
Your stone body is very resilient (AC +13).
Your wings are large and strong.
You resist negative energy.
You are resistant to electric shocks.
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.
You are immune to rotting.
You are clumsy. (Dex -2)


Message History

The deep elf sorcerer hits you but does no damage.
Space bends around you.
You closely miss the deep elf demonologist.
The deep elf demonologist is lightly wounded.
You block the orange demon's attack. x2
The deep elf demonologist hits you but does no damage.
The deep elf sorcerer casts a spell.
The deep elf sorcerer seems to speed up.
Unknown command.
You bludgeon the deep elf demonologist!!
The deep elf demonologist is severely wounded.
The deep elf sorcerer hits you but does no damage.
You are cast into the Abyss!
To return, you must find a gate leading back.
You sense a powerful magical force warping space.
Found 49 gold pieces.
You now have 1844 gold pieces (gained 49).
There are no items here.
Char dumped to 'morgue/BurlyFighter.txt'.
Saving game... please wait.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  An Ice Fiend (IceCv)
  2 deep elf blademasters (Elf:3)
  2 deep elf master archers (Elf:3)
  An azure jelly (Swamp:1)
  4 thorn hunters
  A tengu reaver (D:12)
  3 ghost moths
  2 deep elf sorcerers (Elf:3)
  Louise (Elf:3)
  An orc warlord (Orc:3)
  Gastronok (Orc:2)
  A ghost moth (shapeshifter) (D:12)
  5 deep elf demonologists (Elf:3)
  5 deep elf annihilators
  Azrael (Elf:3)
  3 deep elf death magi (Elf:3)
  Snorg (Lair:3)
  2 deep elf high priests (Elf:3)
  Josephine (Orc:4)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  12 hydras
  A ghost crab (shapeshifter) (D:12)
  A deep troll earth mage (D:12)
  3 shambling mangroves
  5 centaur warriors (WizLab)
  8 alligators
  11 death yaks
  2 satyrs (WizLab)
  6 orc high priests
  A catoblepas (Lair:8)
  Nergalle (D:11)
  A soul eater (Orc:4)
  An unseen horror (D:12)
  Erolcha (Orc:2)
  2 sun demons
  12 deep elf knights
  7 ice devils
  10 deep elf summoners
  9 orb spiders
  3 ice statues (IceCv)
  15 deep elf conjurers
  2 swamp dragons
  4 hill giants
  5 orc knights
  A cyclops (D:12)
  18 wolf spiders
  2 griffons
  4 orc sorcerers
  6 red wasps
  2 ugly things (D:11)
  A mana viper (shapeshifter) (Orc:4)
  4 fauns (WizLab)
  2 sixfirhies
  8 elephants
  6 black mambas
  A feature mimic (Orc:3)
  A torpor snail (Spider:3)
  An efreet (D:12)
  An orange demon (Elf:3)
  3 gargoyles
  18 spiny frogs
  A kobold demonologist (D:11)
  2 hellwings
  An iron devil (Elf:3)
  7 demonic crawlers
  5 fire drakes
  4 deep elf priests
  5 komodo dragons
  3 anaconda simulacra (IceCv)
  4 blue devils (IceCv)
  5 freezing wraiths
  2 spriggan druids
  A hydra zombie (D:11)
  A golden dragon simulacrum (IceCv)
  7 baby alligators
  5 polar bears
  A two-headed ogre (Volcano)
  A wandering mushroom (WizLab)
  22 blink frogs
  2 giant leeches
  21 jumping spiders
  2 trolls
  17 ravens
  21 slime creatures
  6 bog bodies
  25 deep elf magi
  6 basilisks
  9 trapdoor spiders
  2 hogs (Volcano)
  12 tarantellas
  41 redbacks
  13 spriggans
  3 shadows
  A wyvern (D:12)
  3 harpy simulacra (IceCv)
  17 yaks
  22 deep elf fighters
  Eustachio (D:9)
  A fire bat (Volcano)
  A hog (shapeshifter) (Elf:2)
  A steam dragon (Lair:6)
  A neqoxec (Elf:2)
  Grum (Orc:1)
  A ynoxinul (Elf:3)
  48 wolves
  3 hungry ghosts
  A fire elemental (Elf:3)
  An iron troll simulacrum (IceCv)
  3 wargs
  10 hippogriffs
  3 hydra simulacra
  20 swamp worms
  9 porcupines
  9 vampire mosquitoes
  18 water moccasins
  6 ice beasts
  16 yellow wasps
  3 hell hounds (Elf:3)
  32 spiders
  40 orc warriors
  5 swamp drakes
  A manticore zombie (D:12)
  8 black bears
  3 necrophages
  6 sky beasts
  11 ogres
  3 phantoms
  23 centaurs
  Sigmund (D:3)
  3 boring beetles
  22 crocodiles
  A brain worm (D:12)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:6)
  2 earth elementals (WizLab)
  16 giant frogs
  11 insubstantial wisps
  4 troll zombies (D:12)
  A cyclops skeleton (D:12)
  2 eyes of draining
  6 electric eels
  3 scorpions
  22 killer bees
  2 wights
  2 centaur zombies (Ossuary)
  5 jellies
  A giant frog zombie (D:9)
  6 crimson imps
  A goliath beetle (D:7)
  8 hounds
  A yellow wasp zombie (D:7)
  A human zombie (Ossuary)
  6 two-headed ogre zombies (D:9)
  25 orc priests
  12 iguanas
  9 worker ants
  7 spectral orcs (D:11)
  An orange rat (Elf:3)
  30 orc wizards
  7 sheep (Lair:3)
  A big kobold zombie (D:6)
  Ijyb (D:3)
  2 ogre zombies (D:12)
  An ogre skeleton (Orc:4)
  3 mummies (Ossuary)
  2 worker ant zombies (D:6)
  58 green rats
  3 gnolls
  4 shadow imps
  2 giant mites
  24 adders
  A goliath beetle zombie (D:6)
  2 worms (D:2)
  2 swamp drake simulacra (Swamp:5)
  An ufetubus (Elf:3)
  An iguana skeleton (D:4)
  6 giant geckos
  188 orcs
  A bat zombie (D:7)
  A gnoll zombie (Ossuary)
  18 goblins
  17 hobgoblins
  14 jackals
  12 bats
  9 giant cockroaches
  8 giant newts
  2 goblin skeletons
  5 goblin zombies
  A hobgoblin skeleton (Orc:4)
  3 hobgoblin zombies
  A jackal skeleton (D:7)
  13 kobolds
  A kobold zombie (D:8)
  An orc simulacrum (Orc:4)
  10 orc skeletons
  34 orc zombies
  14 quokkas
  A quokka skeleton (D:5)
  17 rats
  A rat skeleton (D:6)
  4 briar patches
  13 butterflies
  70 fungi
  37 plants
  5 toadstools (WizLab)
1664 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A deep elf high priest (Elf:3)
  A hydra (Swamp:5)
  A hill giant (D:5)
  A deep elf mage (Elf:1)
  A fire elemental (Spider:2)
  3 lost souls (Elf:3)
  A gnoll (D:5)
  An orc zombie (Orc:4)
  A quokka (D:7)
  A giant spore (D:12)
  2 orc skeletons (Orc:4)
  A ballistomycete (D:12)
  2 briar patches (WizLab)
  A butterfly (Lair:4)
  2 crawling corpses (Elf:1)
  5 fungi
  A plant (Lair:8)
26 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1690 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Burly Fighter, the Gargoyle Fighter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 1/1
   220 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 2/2
   819 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 18/23 MP: 3/3
  1002 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
  1148 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 21/28 MP: 4/4
  1250 | D:2      | Noticed a moth of wrath
  1251 | D:2      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  1990 | D:3      | Noticed Sigmund
  2017 | D:3      | Killed Sigmund
  2017 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  2017 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 18/32 MP: 5/5
  2147 | D:3      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  2174 | D:3      | Noticed Ijyb
  2191 | D:3      | Killed Ijyb
  2741 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 37/37 MP: 6/6
  3805 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  3965 | D:4      | Found Irchakal's Food Boutique.
  4172 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4231 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Armour
  4231 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/41 MP: 7/7
  4372 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4372 | D:5      | Noticed a hill giant
  4788 | D:5      | Found Goqim's Jewellery Emporium.
  4825 | D:5      | Killed a hill giant
  4925 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5005 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Qazlal Stormbringer
  5129 | D:6      | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  5136 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  5144 | Ossuary  | Entered an ossuary
  5698 | D:7      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  6069 | D:6      | Noticed a hippogriff
  6084 | D:6      | Killed a hippogriff
  6084 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 23/51 MP: 8/8
  6691 | D:6      | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
  6721 | D:6      | Acquired Qazlal's first power
  6835 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
  7494 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 55/55 MP: 18/18
  7504 | D:7      | Found Psy Stron's Book Boutique.
  7571 | D:7      | Found Ticruty's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
  7682 | D:7      | Reached skill level 7 in Armour
  7770 | D:7      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  7874 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Armour
  7917 | D:6      | Acquired Qazlal's second power
  8530 | D:7      | Found Pramarch's Antique Weapon Boutique.
  9027 | D:7      | Found Lupt's Assorted Antiques.
  9100 | D:7      | Bought an embroidered cloak for 117 gold pieces
  9500 | D:8      | Got a crude chain mail
  9511 | D:8      | Identified the +4 chain mail of Ufamyn {+Blink rPois Dex+2 SInv} (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  9606 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  9692 | D:8      | Noticed a gargoyle
  9792 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 64/64 MP: 20/20
  9803 | D:9      | Noticed Burly Fighter's ghost (experienced GrFi)
  9836 | D:9      | HP: 2/64 [crimson imp/dagger of chaos (16)]
  9962 | D:9      | Noticed Eustachio
  9973 | D:9      | Killed Eustachio
 10439 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 10535 | D:10     | Acquired Qazlal's third power
 10791 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
 10807 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 10820 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 11133 | D:10     | Found Selenwuc's Book Shop.
 11598 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 11999 | D:11     | Found Ritiv's Assorted Antiques.
 12125 | D:11     | Acquired Qazlal's fourth power
 12212 | D:11     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 57/69 MP: 7/22
 12213 | D:11     | Noticed a hill giant
 12224 | D:11     | Killed a hill giant
 12224 | D:11     | Reached skill level 9 in Fighting
 12480 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 12689 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 12689 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 12748 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 12793 | D:11     | Noticed a white ugly thing
 12811 | D:11     | Killed a white ugly thing
 13169 | D:9      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 13180 | D:9      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 13554 | D:8      | Killed a gargoyle
 13839 | D:11     | Noticed a hill giant
 13851 | D:11     | Killed a hill giant
 13855 | D:11     | Noticed a green ugly thing
 13873 | D:11     | Killed a green ugly thing
 14022 | D:11     | Noticed Nergalle
 14061 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 14124 | Lair:1   | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 14164 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 15461 | Lab      | Noticed a minotaur
 15476 | Lab      | Killed a minotaur
 15478 | Lab      | Got a twisted great sword {flame}
 15483 | Lab      | Identified the Almanac of Ignition and Combat Magic
 15484 | Lab      | Got a polished great mace
 15484 | Lab      | Got a twisted chain mail
 15485 | Lab      | Identified the +9 great mace of Obelaf {elec, Noisy rPois Dex+2 Int+1} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 15486 | Lab      | Identified the +10 great sword of Wealth {flame, Int+2} (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth)
 15498 | Lab      | Identified the +8 chain mail of Wonder {+Blink rC++} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 15655 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Staves
 15685 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 76/76 MP: 27/27
 15812 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
 16139 | Lair:1   | Got a steaming hand crossbow
 16140 | Lair:1   | Identified the +8 hand crossbow of Uronon {elec, rPois} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
 16416 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
 16581 | Lair:2   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 16584 | Lair:2   | Acquired Qazlal's fifth power
 16589 | Lair:2   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 17008 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
 17148 | Lair:3   | Got a sparkling bronze ring
 17150 | Lair:3   | Identified the ring "Apon" {EV+5 Str+2} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 17272 | Lair:3   | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies
 17278 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 17310 | Lair:3   | Noticed Snorg
 17313 | Lair:3   | Killed Snorg
 17313 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 73/80 MP: 28/28
 17346 | Lair:3   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 17824 | Lair:3   | Got a dull robe
 17835 | Lair:3   | Identified the +4 robe of Vanity {Str-1 Int+3} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 17879 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
 19690 | Lair:6   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 19693 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 20633 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Summonings
 20633 | Lair:6   | Gained mutation: Your wings are large and strong. [gargoyle growth]
 20633 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 41/86 MP: 29/29
 20787 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
 20812 | Lair:7   | Learned a level 3 spell: Call Canine Familiar
 20815 | Lair:7   | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp
 21416 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 21482 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 23039 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 23086 | Swamp:1  | Reached XP level 15. HP: 95/100 MP: 29/29
 23184 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 23404 | Swamp:1  | Found a frozen archway.
 23406 | Swamp:1  | Noticed an azure jelly
 23418 | Swamp:1  | Killed an azure jelly
 23488 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 23765 | IceCv    | Noticed an Ice Fiend
 23769 | IceCv    | Killed an Ice Fiend
 24289 | IceCv    | Got a creamy pearl robe
 24300 | IceCv    | Identified the +1 robe of the Hidden Vale {rElec} (You found it in an ice cave)
 24741 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 25690 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
 26135 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Fighting
 27126 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 27126 | Spider:2 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 87/108 MP: 8/30
 27978 | Spider:3 | Got a vibrating bone ring
 27981 | Spider:3 | Identified the ring of Dafuis {rC+ MR+ Int-3 Slay+1} (You found it on level 3 of the Spider Nest)
 28228 | Spider:3 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 29417 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
 30395 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
 32052 | Swamp:4  | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
 32182 | Swamp:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp
 32190 | Swamp:5  | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
 32193 | Swamp:5  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 89/113 MP: 31/31
 32304 | Swamp:5  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 32699 | Swamp:4  | HP: 1/113 [spriggan druid/angry trees (7)]
 33247 | Swamp:5  | Killed a thorn hunter
 33473 | Swamp:5  | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
 33752 | Swamp:5  | Noticed Mara
 33755 | Swamp:5  | Noticed Burly Fighter's illusion
 33935 | D:11     | Killed Nergalle
 34321 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 34404 | D:12     | Found Duokaid's Weapon Emporium.
 35167 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 35334 | Orc:1    | Found a dark tunnel.
 35351 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 35845 | Orc:2    | Found Pestiac's Weapon Shoppe.
 35847 | Orc:2    | Found Sexzok's Weapon Shoppe.
 35847 | Orc:2    | Noticed Gastronok
 35882 | Orc:2    | Killed Gastronok
 36091 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 36303 | Orc:2    | Noticed Grum
 36315 | Orc:1    | Reached skill level 1 in Crossbows
 36343 | Orc:1    | Killed Grum
 36408 | Orc:2    | Found Emiunk's Jewellery Shop.
 36447 | Orc:2    | Bought the ring "Lol No Cue" {MR+ Dex+3 Slay+5} for 830 gold pieces
 36852 | Orc:2    | Found Twamnaiw's Armour Emporium.
 36852 | Orc:2    | Found Thrakhadi's Weapon Shoppe.
 36852 | Orc:2    | Noticed Erolcha
 36856 | Orc:2    | Killed Erolcha
 36870 | Orc:2    | Bought a +1 pair of boots of running for 511 gold pieces
 36895 | Orc:2    | Bought 22 bolts for 70 gold pieces
 37121 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 37188 | Orc:4    | Noticed Josephine
 37192 | Orc:4    | Killed Josephine
 37287 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 38598 | Orc:4    | Found Enouxau's General Store.
 38600 | Orc:4    | Found Creorgh's Book Shoppe.
 38601 | Orc:4    | Found Coumewae's Antique Armour Emporium.
 38601 | Orc:4    | Found Piveoj's Antique Weapon Emporium.
 38746 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 39168 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting
 39191 | Elf:1    | Reached XP level 18. HP: 96/120 MP: 32/32
 39335 | Elf:1    | Found a magical portal.
 39340 | WizLab   | Entered Eringya's Formal Garden
 39448 | WizLab   | Identified Faocs' Spellcraft Continued (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)
 39452 | WizLab   | Identified Plog's Witchery, Part Four (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)
 39748 | WizLab   | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 39759 | WizLab   | Reached skill level 17 in Fighting
 39778 | WizLab   | Identified the Disquisition on Gliding Augmentations (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)
 39782 | WizLab   | Learned a level 2 spell: Song of Slaying
 39801 | WizLab   | Identified the Disquisition on Beguiling (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)
 40875 | Elf:2    | Learned a level 2 spell: Stoneskin
 40934 | Elf:2    | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic
 41317 | Elf:3    | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
 41642 | Elf:3    | Reached skill level 5 in Earth Magic
 41661 | Elf:3    | Got a jewelled chain mail
 41672 | Elf:3    | Identified the cursed +2 chain mail "Psiow" {+Blink +Fly rN+} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 41924 | Elf:3    | Noticed Louise
 41931 | Elf:3    | Killed Louise
 42150 | Elf:3    | Noticed a Hell Sentinel
 42186 | Elf:3    | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [a cacodemon]
 42190 | Elf:3    | Noticed Azrael
 42573 | Elf:3    | Killed Azrael
 42604 | Elf:3    | Noticed a Brimstone Fiend
 42623 | Elf:3    | Reached skill level 10 in Earth Magic
 42665 | Elf:3    | Reached XP level 19. HP: 97/128 MP: 30/33
 42710 | Elf:3    | Cast into the Abyss (deep elf sorcerer)


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Flail             |   145 |   278 |   644 |   321 |       |       |       ||  1388
       Dire flail        |       |       |       |   280 |       |       |       ||   280
       Great mace        |       |       |       |   192 |   923 |  1558 |    29 ||  2702
 Fire: Shortbow          |       |       |       |     2 |       |       |       ||     2
 Cast: Summon Butterflie |       |       |       |       |     6 |       |       ||     6
       Song of Slaying   |       |       |       |       |       |     9 |       ||     9
       Stoneskin         |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
Invok: Upheaval          |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
       Elemental Force   |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
 Abil: Evoke Blink       |       |       |       |     3 |       |     4 |       ||     7
       Fly               |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
       Stop Flying       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |     6 |     6 |     3 |       ||    15
  Use: Scroll            |     5 |     4 |     9 |     7 |    11 |    15 |       ||    51
       Potion            |       |       |     2 |     7 |     5 |     8 |       ||    22
 Stab: Confused          |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     1 |    10 |    10 |    14 |    22 |    30 |       ||    87
       Beef jerky        |       |       |     2 |     6 |     2 |     2 |       ||    12
       Meat ration       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |       ||     2
       Fruit             |       |       |       |       |     1 |    18 |       ||    19
       Pizza             |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1


This is troubling. Does anyone have general Abyss advice? I've never made it out, and I'd really hate to lose this character.
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Uristides

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #12657 on: September 08, 2014, 02:07:03 pm »

Seeing this thread around made me want to get back into this.
Throwing used to be a great way to soften up, or even dispatch, enemies from far away on the early game(which is all I can reach) for melee characters with no aptitude for magic and no other ranged weapons. It's really underwhelming now.

Anyway, I'm a scrubby scrub who plays DsMo and * of Ashenzari almost exclusively. Currently on a MiFi around dungeon 7, thinking if I should delve into the lair right now.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #12658 on: September 08, 2014, 02:14:05 pm »

My Abyss experiences, when i had a character unprepared for being banished are the following :

- i'm lucky and i find an exit fast enough.
- i'm less lucky and after long time walking around , i have a lots of enemies accumulating with time that are following me and ... i find an exit, though i'm heavily mutated by then.
- i'm not lucky and whatever i do, i don't find any exit and the legion of accumulated monsters finally get me.

To me it seems to be more about luck than strategy , at least when your character is not already near to end-game ready.
Just stay away from portal leading further into the Abyss that you find more often than actual exits
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #12659 on: September 08, 2014, 02:24:44 pm »

I actually kill most of the stuff in the abyss. Some of the nasties (like that blue blob thing that multiplies) aren't worth the time, but by XL19 you can definitely do away with most of the demons and abominations that occupy the abyss. Goes doubly so for anything that mutates, as you can't just have them follow you around.
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