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[Levi]

I've been having fun playing this lately.  I'm so bad at it though, never even seen a rune.

I did get lucky on my current game and had a god gift of +12 Crystal Plate Armour so hopefully I get at least one rune this time.   

[Angel Of Death]

Does anyone know where I can get some decent short blades? I've been trying to take on hell as a vine stalker monk and I've discovered that it is harder than Satan's mantits to hack through everyone using only a cutlass and Nemelex Xobeh's wonderful powers.

[Graven]

Hall of blades could have a quickblade. So could Elf:3. You could trawl the abyss and/or pan, but it'd be quicker and less painful to just punch yourself in the balls a bunch.

So I finally got a decent HOAK that didn't find the exact randart weapon on D:3 that my previous AK would need - go Long Blades? Have a randart +8 trident on D:2. Go Tridents? Have Erica and the consumables to kill her on D:10. Hurrr.

I've got a total of +11 slaying [gauntlets of War and a ring], and a Holy Bastard Sword - both from the same place, an Ice Statue vault in Lair - had to blink in, grab them in a hurry and go down the escape hatch, was kind of harrowing.

I'm currently debating on whether I should just say screw it and go sword-and-board, or try out for a two-hander.

Shields is probably my best bet, honestly. I've got an extended-worthy weapon in my hands right now. Oh man, choices.

edit : HAHA NEVERMIND HALBERD BAILEY

[Mr Space Cat]

0.14's Labyrinths are actually pretty challenging. There's actually enemies besides the minotaur now, including hungry ghosts and wandering mushrooms. There's also various vaults that provide some refreshing change to the typical layout of countless corridors, and there's stuff to help you out such as a wand of digging with one charge in it, or a gateway to the Abyss to "provide an escape through the horrors of the abyss".

I wasn't expecting the changes and figured it was a chance for free treasure like in past versions. Probably good that they changed it, then.

[Graven]

It still is free loot, only not as boring as before. Unseen horrors can be nasty, though! Also the shrooms are a surprisingly tough fight without Clarity.

Also I got tired of splatting HOAKs in Depths, so I rolled a Gargoyle. Just bought a +15 Plate Armour of the Lily [rF+, rC+, MR++, Dex+2, Int+2] from a shop. Not bad for an armour named after my mother

edit : Aight, questionin' time.

Here's my current bloke:

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-2820-gd1528c4 (tiles) character file.

Gravenous the Conqueror (Gargoyle Skald)           Turns: 70845, Time: 02:32:21

HP 208/208       AC 66     Str 24      XL: 26   Next: 26%
MP  28/28        EV  8     Int 21      God: Okawaru [******]
Gold 4035        SH 55     Dex 11      Spells:  1 memorised, 28 levels left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis +     F - +8,+7 eveningstar (elec)
rCold  + + .     Clarity  .     C - +15 plate armour of the Lily {rF+ rC+ MR++ Dex+2 Int+3}
rNeg   + . .     Conserve .     G - +2 dwarf large shield {reflect}
rPois  +         rCorr    .     T - +2 dwarf helmet {Int+3}
rElec  +         rRot     +     l - +0 cloak {MR+}
SustAb . .       Spirit   +     H - +5 pair of gloves of Satisfaction {rC+ MR++}
rMut   .         Warding  .     k - -2 pair of boots {+Jump}
Saprov . . .     Stasis   .     E - amulet of guardian spirit
MR     +++++                    O - ring "Gecwev" {Wiz Acc+4 SInv}
                                j - ring of Vitality {Regen HP+15}

@: flying, almost entirely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely
unstealthy
A: large and strong wings, blurry vision 1, dopey 1, life protection 1,
screaming 1, electricity resistance, unbreathing, petrification resistance, AC
+19
a: Stop Flying, Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion, Evoke Jump Attack
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Okawaru.
Okawaru is exalted by your worship.
You are full.

You have visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and seen 52 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer, Ice Cave, Volcano and Wizlab.

You have collected 7176 gold pieces.
You have spent 3141 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 F - a +8,+7 eveningstar of electrocution (weapon)
Armour
 k - a -2 pair of boots of jumping (worn)
 l - a +0 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
 C - the +15 plate armour of the Lily (worn) {rF+ rC+ MR++ Dex+2 Int+3}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 16 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 G - a +2 dwarven large shield of reflection (worn)
 H - the +5 pair of gloves of Satisfaction (worn) {rC+ MR++}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 16 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 T - a +2 dwarven helmet of intelligence (worn)
Magical devices
 e - a wand of fire
 f - a wand of digging
 g - a wand of teleportation (2)
 h - a wand of digging
 m - a wand of heal wounds (7)
 q - a wand of fire (7)
 r - a wand of hasting (3)
 y - a wand of cold (11)
 A - a wand of disintegration (15)
 Q - a wand of disintegration
Comestibles
 n - 3 beef jerkies
 w - 15 meat rations
Scrolls
 p - 5 scrolls of fog
 t - 7 scrolls of remove curse
 u - a scroll of identify
 x - a scroll of holy word
 P - 3 scrolls of teleportation
 R - 4 scrolls of blinking
Jewellery
 d - an uncursed amulet of conservation
 j - the ring of Vitality (left hand) {Regen HP+15}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of regeneration]
   It affects your health (+15).
 s - the ring "Zyqil" {rC+ Str+5}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Depths)   
   
   [ring of protection from cold]
   It affects your strength (+5).
 B - a +4,+5 ring of slaying
 E - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck)
 I - the ring "Cevvedur" {SustAb Str+3 Int+4}
   (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth)   
   
   [ring of sustain abilities]
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
 J - a ring of wizardry
 O - the ring "Gecwev" (right hand) {Wiz Acc+4 SInv}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of wizardry]
   It affects your accuracy with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+4).
   It enhances your eyesight.
 V - the ring of Benevolence {Contam rF+ rC+ rN+}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of protection from fire]
   It protects you from cold.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It causes magical contamination when unequipped.
 X - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
Potions
 b - 2 potions of curing
 c - 2 potions of heal wounds
 D - 2 potions of restore abilities
 M - a potion of speed
 U - a potion of resistance
 Y - a potion of brilliance
Miscellaneous
 o - a fan of gales
 z - a phial of floods
 L - a phial of floods
 N - a lamp of fire
Rods
 K - a weird jewelled rod
   (You found it on level 5 of the Depths)


   Skills:
 O Level 27 Fighting
 - Level 16,0 Maces & Flails
 - Level 21,0 Armour
 - Level 0,7 Dodging
 - Level 25,3 Shields
 - Level 2,0 Spellcasting
 + Level 12,8 Charms


You have 28 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Infusion              Chrm           ######       1%          1    #......


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (16/16)            Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (4/4) D:11
    Elf (3/3) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:11          Swamp (5/5) Lair:4
 Spider (5/5) Lair:6        Slime (0/6) Lair:6       Vaults (4/5) D:15
  Blade (0/1) Vaults:4      Crypt (0/5) Vaults:2        Zot (0/5) Depths:6
 Depths (6/6) D:16       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:16 [   Orc:1 =   Orc:4 ([?*   Vaults:2 %   Vaults:3 [   Depths:5 (/(?

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5 Depths:6
Abyss: Depths:1 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:6
Pandemonium: Depths:3 Depths:4
Ziggurat: Depths:3

Annotations:
Lair:6 exclusion: oklob plant


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
You are immune to poison.
You can fly continuously.
Your stone body is very resilient (AC +19).
Your wings are large and strong.
You resist negative energy.
You are resistant to electric shocks.
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.
Your vision is a little blurry.
You are dopey. (Int -2)
You occasionally shout uncontrollably.

I've 11 scrolls of enchant armour, a Crystal Plate and a Gold Dragon Hide.

I'm debating the merrits of going for CPA, GDA or remaining with my current plate armour. Going CPA will definitely give me more total AC, but that's pretty useless apart from going for the highest possible I can [I have two rings of protection and a weapon of protection somewhere, but that would be cheating, since I wouldn't actually be playing like this, only using it to ascend for the stats]. GDA seems a bit useless, my armour already has rF+ and rC+, and +15 enchantment, a GDA goes only to +12.

Seems like the best option is to keep my current kit, hit spellcasting even harder, swap some rings around to make room for the slaying and go on my merry way, with a short burst of TSO to bless my Eveningstar.

Wonder if it's better to remove the ring of vitality and keep my randart Wizardry... probably not. I'm not really casting anything, and I think I can get haste castable in plate without too much issues. I like the +15 hp and the regen on the vitality ring, and I have sInv on a randart amulet of rage.

I also really need randart boots, cloak and helm since assholes keep corroding them and bringing my total defense down 

[tompliss]

I would keep the ?EA for auxiliary armor, yeah. by the way, why don't you enchant that shield once more ?
It is dwarven, but it still has a chance of getting corroded

You could identify your rod, and see if it's worth investing in evocation, as spellcasting in plate will take a long time to get online, too.
But yeah, with your skills, either you go for a 3-runes win and you don't have much XP left, so putting all in evocation (and maye armor) will give you the best you can get, or you can try extended (considering the -20% HP of the gargoyles and the fact that you're focused on melee... :s ), and try something else.

[Graven]

So uh, ... damn.

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-2820-gd1528c4 (tiles) character file.

12783502 Gravenous the Conqueror (level 27, 194/194 HPs)
             Began as a Gargoyle Skald on Mar 9, 2014.
             Was the Champion of the Shining One.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 15 runes!
             
             The game lasted 04:33:37 (126589 turns).

Gravenous the Conqueror (Gargoyle Skald)          Turns: 126589, Time: 04:33:37

HP 194/194       AC 87     Str 24      XL: 27
MP  46/46        EV  7     Int 21      God: the Shining One [******]
Gold 15933       SH 60     Dex  9      Spells:  3 memorised, 57 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis .     F - +9,+8 eveningstar (holy)
rCold  + . .     Clarity  .     W - +14 crystal plate armour
rNeg   + + +     Conserve .     G - +3 dwarf large shield {reflect}
rPois  +         rCorr    .     T - +2 dwarf helmet {Int+3}
rElec  +         rRot     +     k - +4 dragonskin cloak
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     Q - +3 pair of gauntlets of War {Acc+5 Dam+5}
rMut   +         Warding  .     f - +2 pair of boots
Saprov . . .     Stasis   .     X - amulet of resist mutation
MR     ++...                    B - +4,+5 ring of slaying
                                j - ring of Vitality {Regen HP+15}

@: flying, glowing, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: large and strong wings, large bone plates 1, frail 1, life protection 1,
electricity resistance, unbreathing, petrification resistance, AC +20
a: Stop Flying, Divine Shield, Cleansing Flame, Summon Divine Warrior, Renounce
Religion
0: Orb of Zot
}: 15/15 runes: decaying, slimy, silver, golden, iron, obsidian, icy, bone,
abyssal, demonic, glowing, magical, fiery, dark, gossamer


You escaped.
You worshipped the Shining One.
The Shining One was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 18 branches of the dungeon, and saw 101 of its levels.
You visited Pandemonium 2 times, and saw 27 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 3 times.
You also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer, Ice Cave, Volcano and Wizlab.

You collected 19114 gold pieces.
You spent 3181 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 e - the cursed +6,+6 Sword of Cerebov {flame}
   (You took it off Cerebov in Pandemonium)   
   
   It emits flame when wielded, causing extra injury to most foes and up to
   double damage against particularly susceptible opponents. Big, fiery blades
   are also staple armaments of hydra-hunters.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
   
   The Shining One opposes the use of such an evil item.
 u - the cursed +7,+7 Sceptre of Asmodeus
   (You took it off Asmodeus on level 7 of Gehenna)   
   It has a curse placed upon it.
   
   The Shining One opposes the use of such an evil item.
 y - the cursed +4,+4 Staff of Dispater
   (You took it off Dispater on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)   
   It has a curse placed upon it.
   
   The Shining One opposes the use of such an evil item.
 F - a +9,+8 eveningstar of holy wrath (weapon)
 O - the cursed +7,+6 Sceptre of Torment
   (You found it on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)   
   It has a curse placed upon it.
   
   The Shining One opposes the use of such an evil item.
Armour
 f - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
 k - the +4 dragonskin cloak (worn)
   (You took it off Tiamat on level 1 of the Realm of Zot)
 n - the -2 pair of gloves of Tulips {rF++ Dex-2}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 5 of the Realm of Zot)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (-2).
   It greatly protects you from fire.
 C - the +15 plate armour of the Lily {rF+ rC+ MR++ Dex+2 Int+3}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 16 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 G - a +3 dwarven large shield of reflection (worn)
 Q - the +3 pair of gauntlets of War (worn) {Acc+5 Dam+5}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   It affects your accuracy with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+5).
   It affects your damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+5).
 T - a +2 dwarven helmet of intelligence (worn)
 W - a +14 crystal plate armour (worn)
Magical devices
 g - a wand of teleportation (8)
 h - a wand of digging (10)
 m - a wand of heal wounds (6)
 r - a wand of hasting (6)
 A - a wand of disintegration (14)
Comestibles
 s - 7 apples
 w - 4 meat rations
 z - 3 bread rations
Scrolls
 Y - 2 scrolls of enchant armour
Jewellery
 a - the cursed amulet "Ghuenof" {+Rage SInv}
   (You found it in an ice cave)   
   
   [amulet of rage]
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 b - a cursed amulet of clarity {unknown}
 c - the cursed amulet "Lecov" {Cons +Blink +Inv rElec rN+ Int+3, unknown}
   (You found it on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)   
   
   [amulet of conservation]
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It lets you turn invisible.
   It lets you blink.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 d - a cursed amulet of conservation
 i - a cursed amulet of resist corrosion
 j - the ring of Vitality (left hand) {Regen HP+15}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of regeneration]
   It affects your health (+15).
 o - the cursed ring of Shreck {Regen Str+4 Int+4}
   (You found it on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)   
   
   [ring of regeneration]
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 x - the cursed ring of Humem {rF+ MR}
   (You took it off a yaktaur captain on level 4 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of protection from magic]
   It protects you from fire.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 B - a +4,+5 ring of slaying (right hand)
 D - the ring "Saolurcha" {+Rage MR+ Dam+5 SInv}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   It affects your damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+5).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you go berserk.
 H - the cursed ring "Ytimoesm" {Hunger rPois MR++}
   (You found it on level 7 of Gehenna)   
   
   [ring of hunger]
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 I - the cursed ring "Cevvedur" {SustAb Str+3 Int+4}
   (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth)   
   
   [ring of sustain abilities]
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 J - the cursed ring of Lugonu's Esteem {+Inv rC+ AC-3 SInv}
   (You found it on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   It affects your AC (-3).
   It protects you from cold.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It lets you turn invisible.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 N - the cursed ring of Gluttony {EV+3 Dam+3, unknown}
   (You found it on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   It affects your evasion (+3).
   It affects your damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+3).
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 P - the cursed amulet of the Dances {Faith Stlth--}
   (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)   
   
   [amulet of faith]
   It makes you much less stealthy.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 R - the cursed ring of the Hero {Hunger rElec, unknown}
   (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)   
   
   [ring of hunger]
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 U - a cursed amulet of clarity {unknown}
 V - the cursed ring of Benevolence {Contam rF+ rC+ rN+}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of protection from fire]
   It protects you from cold.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It causes magical contamination when unequipped.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 X - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
Potions
 q - 3 potions of curing
 Z - a potion of heal wounds
Miscellaneous
 l - a phial of floods
 p - a phial of floods
 v - the horn of Geryon
 E - a fan of gales
 K - a phial of floods
 M - a lamp of fire
 S - a phial of floods
Rods
 L - a cursed +4 rod of frigid destruction (11/11)
   (You found it on level 7 of Gehenna)


   Skills:
 O Level 27 Fighting
 - Level 16,0 Maces & Flails
 O Level 27 Armour
 - Level 0,7 Dodging
 O Level 27 Shields
 - Level 20,0 Spellcasting
 + Level 23,4 Charms
 O Level 27 Invocations
 O Level 27 Evocations


You had 57 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Infusion              Chrm           ######       0%          1    None
b - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ######       1%          2    None
c - Haste                 Chrm           #######.     1%          6    ####...


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (16/16)            Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (4/4) D:11
    Elf (3/3) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:11          Swamp (5/5) Lair:4
 Spider (5/5) Lair:6        Slime (6/6) Lair:6       Vaults (5/5) D:15
  Blade (0/1) Vaults:4      Crypt (5/5) Vaults:2       Tomb (3/3) Crypt:3
   Hell (1/1)                 Dis (7/7) Hell            Geh (7/7) Hell
    Coc (7/7) Hell            Tar (7/7) Hell            Zot (5/5) Depths:6
 Depths (6/6) D:16       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:16 [   Orc:1 =   Orc:4 ([?*   Vaults:2 %   Vaults:3 [   Depths:5 (/(?

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5 Depths:6
Abyss: Depths:1 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:6
Pandemonium: Depths:3 Depths:4
Ziggurat: Depths:3

Annotations:
Zot:3 exclusion: downstairs


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
You are immune to poison.
You can fly continuously.
Your stone body is very resilient (AC +20).
Your wings are large and strong.
You resist negative energy.
You are resistant to electric shocks.
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.
You are partially covered in large bone plates (AC +2, SH +2).
You are frail (-10% HP).


Message History

Move the cursor to view the level map, or type ? for a list of commands.
Returning to the game...
A red devil comes into view. It is wielding a glowing demon trident.
The red devil moves out of view.
No target in view!
No target in view!
No target in view!
You block the red devil's attack.
You block the red devil's attack.
The red devil hops backward while attacking.
You puncture the red devil! The red devil convulses!
The red devil is heavily wounded.
You block the red devil's attack.
You spit the red devil like a pig!!!
You kill the red devil!
The Shining One accepts your kill.
No target in view!
There is an open door here.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.
You have escaped!

At 11 wins, I officially have more 15-rune ones than non-15-rune ones.

Nothing much to say, really. Gargoyles are babby's first 15-rune win, but I love them. Besides there's a certain limit on how many HoAKs a man can splatter in Depths before he starts thirsting for blood.

And for the record, I did actually make the orb run in the crystal plate mail. I only had 80 AC in the plate, and decided that was definitely not gargoyle-ly enough.

Also:
31551 | Swamp:3 | HP: 1/116 [thorn lotus/volley of thorns (31)]
64028 | Depths:3 | HP: 8/175 [titan/the air (22)]

[Graven]

Man, this thread. Doesn't anyone else play this game anymore? I mean, trunk does keep adding stupid stuff, but still, it's a pretty nice game 

Questionin' time!

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Gravenous the Conqueror (Ogre Berserker)           Turns: 50703, Time: 01:25:43

HP 238/238       AC 29     Str 29      XL: 21   Next: 23%
MP  20/20        EV  9     Int 12      God: Trog [******]
Gold 4502        SH  0     Dex  9      Spells:  0 memorised, 20 levels left

rFire  + + +     SeeInvis .     X - +2,+7 giant club of Termination {freeze, rF++}
rCold  . . .     Rnd*Rage +     B - +10 pearl dragon armour
rNeg   + . .     Conserve +     (shield restricted)
rPois  +         rCorr    .     k - -1 hat
rElec  .         rRot     .     J - +2 dwarf cloak {rPois}
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     (gloves unavailable)
rMut   .         Warding  .     (boots unavailable)
Saprov + . .     Stasis   .     W - amulet of conservation
MR     +++..                    a - ring of protection from magic
                                M - ring of regeneration

@: extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: unfitting armour, thin metallic scales 1, berserk 1, deformed body, fire
resistance 1, fast metabolism 3, frail 1, saprovore 1, tough skin 1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion
}: 1/15 runes: serpentine


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 42 of its levels.
You have also visited: Bailey.

You have collected 4732 gold pieces.
You have spent 230 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 b - the +0,+9 great mace of Skinob {vamp, +Inv rN+ SInv}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 1 of the Vaults)   
   
   It inflicts no extra harm, but heals its wielder somewhat when it strikes a
   living foe.
   
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It lets you turn invisible.
 m - an uncursed dire flail of distortion
 X - the +2,+7 giant club of Termination (weapon) {freeze, rF++}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible
   opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   
   It greatly protects you from fire.
Armour
 k - a -1 hat (worn)
 B - a +10 pearl dragon armour (worn)
 J - a +2 dwarven cloak of poison resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 d - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 4}
 n - a wand of lightning
 p - a wand of digging
 r - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1}
 t - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1}
 v - a wand of hasting (2)
 y - a wand of cold
 D - a wand of fire {zapped: 1}
 E - a wand of digging
 I - a wand of digging (12)
 K - a wand of lightning
 U - a wand of magic darts {zapped: 2}
 V - a wand of fire
Comestibles
 c - 2 meat rations
 f - 16 sultanas
 l - 16 bread rations
 C - 5 chokos
 F - 6 pears
 H - 16 apples
Scrolls
 i - 7 scrolls of teleportation
 j - 13 scrolls of remove curse
 o - 10 scrolls of identify
 s - 2 scrolls of recharging
 x - 3 scrolls of fog
 z - 3 scrolls of fear
 G - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 S - a scroll of blinking
Jewellery
 a - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
 q - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 M - a ring of regeneration (left hand)
 W - an amulet of conservation (around neck)
 Y - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
Potions
 e - 3 potions of heal wounds
 g - 4 potions of restore abilities
 h - a potion of flight
 w - 7 potions of curing
 P - 2 potions of might
Rods
 T - a short jewelled rod
   (You found it on level 2 of the Snake Pit)
 Z - a curved jewelled rod
   (You found it on level 15 of the Dungeon)


   Skills:
 O Level 27 Fighting
 - Level 20,0 Maces & Flails
 + Level 18,8 Armour
 - Level 8,0 Dodging


You have 20 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (16/16)            Temple (0/1) D:6             Orc (4/4) D:9
    Elf (0/3) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:8           Swamp (5/5) Lair:4
  Snake (5/5) Lair:3        Slime (0/6) Lair:8       Vaults (4/5) D:14
  Blade (0/1) Vaults:3      Crypt (0/5) Vaults:2     Depths (0/6) D:16

Altars:
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:4 =   D:8 *}(?%   D:9 %/*!   D:12 [   D:16 [   Orc:4 ::**   Vaults:4 }=

Portals:
Hell: Lair:8

Annotations:
D:16 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne
Lair:6 exclusion: 3 oklob plants


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
Your metabolism is lightning-fast.
You can tolerate rotten meat.
You have tough skin (AC +1).
You are partially covered in thin metallic scales (AC +2).
You tend to lose your temper in combat.
Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.
Your flesh is heat resistant.
You are frail (-10% HP).


Message History

(D) Dungeon        (T) Temple         (O) Orcish Mines   (E) Elven Halls   
(L) Lair           (S) Swamp          (P) Snake Pit      (M) Slime Pits     
(V) Vaults         (B) Hall of Blades (C) Crypt          (H) Hell           
(U) Depths         
Where to? (Enter - Lair:1, ? - help)
There is a staircase to the Lair here.
You climb downwards. Welcome to the Lair of Beasts!
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
Items here: ?????
a scroll of brand weapon; 5 scrolls of recharging; 3 scrolls of enchant weapon II; 3 scrolls of enchant weapon I
a scroll of amnesia
Unknown command.
You drop 3 scrolls of enchant armour.
Identify which item? (\ to view known items) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
As you read the scroll of identify, it crumbles to dust.
b - the +0,+9 great mace of Skinob {vamp, +Inv rN+ SInv}
You continue eating.
You finish eating. That honeycomb was delicious!
Char dumped to 'morgue/Gravenous.txt'.
Save game and exit?

This is the furthers I've gotten on an Ogre, and I'm starting to regret. Among the things I regret most is my choice of god. Trog did gift me the sweet club I'm using, but I found a Pearl dragon hide really early on, and a ton of Enchant Armour scrolls. It's been +10 since mid-lair, and I pumped a bit of int thinking I could go for some spell casting.

However God wrath is now tied to exp gained, so I can't even cheese it out behind a rat or something. And surviving Trog wrath on a PDA ogre doesn't seem like the likeliest of possibilities.

I could just get 4 runes and write it off, which would probably be the soundest path. However it just feels like a waste, really. I got a PDA, I can get spellcasting easy... I just need to survive the big angry ape's wrath. Barring rat-and-hallway stuff, what's the next best survival method?

Also I've maxxed Fighting, and am now training Armour, but I'm uncertain. Would going for evocations and gathering all the fans of gales and stuff be reasonable? What does an Ogre even train? Most of my OgHus tend to die off around Vaults.

[tompliss]

Spellcasting Ogre is always nice to play because you can pump a lot of XP in the spellcasting skill and less than usual in the magic schools. Evocation always helps, but I think you already knows that the new evocables don't need XP to get their base effect, so you don't really need to put XP in it for those.
However, if you can get a scroll of acquirement, you should ask for a staff/rod before leaving Trog, and benefit from the 100% chance of getting a rod, in case you get a really nice one (as this would be a nice chance of situation for your character, and staying with trog could be better then).

My ogres who stayed alive long really benefited from the Heavy htting in melee (GSC) and ranged (Large rock with their native penetration), and spells more for utility than anything else (usually weaing FDA/IDA, but with your armor & str, PDA is nice too).

By the way, Trog's wrath is really survivable, now but you should get in an area where you can get XP and don't really risk much. And yeah, those are rare, if they even exist. You got the 2 first levels of Elf there, for a part of this. One of mine survived Oka's wrath (and I think they are more comparable, now that they're XP indexed), at level 25 but with only 225 HP. You could try to get a few books and see what are the failure rates of the escape spells, and prepare to put all your XP on those as soon as you quit Trog, but you're more experienced about this than me, I think.

[Graven]

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1255079 Gravenous the Conqueror (level 27, -3/277 (290) HPs)
             Began as an Ogre Berserker on Mar 16, 2014.
             Was the Champion of the Shining One.
             Slain by a skeletal warrior
             ... wielding a +0,+0 mace
              (12 damage)
             ... on Level 7 of Cocytus.
             The game lasted 04:07:21 (121437 turns).

Gravenous the Conqueror (Ogre Berserker)          Turns: 121437, Time: 04:07:21

HP  -3/277 (290) AC 39     Str 27 (31) XL: 27
MP  44/44        EV 10     Int  7 (14) God: the Shining One [******]
Gold 9271        SH  0     Dex  9      Spells:  7 memorised, 58 levels left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis .     k - +8,+9 giant spiked club (holy)
rCold  + . .     Clarity  .     B - +10 pearl dragon armour (curse)
rNeg   + + +     Conserve .     (shield restricted)
rPois  +         rCorr    .     t - +2 hat of the Alchemist {rElec rF+ rC+ MR+}
rElec  +         rRot     .     J - +2 dwarf cloak {rPois} (curse)
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     (gloves unavailable)
rMut   +         Warding  .     (boots unavailable)
Saprov + . .     Stasis   .     Y - amulet of resist mutation
MR     +++..                    p - cursed +0,+6 ring of slaying
                                c - cursed ring of sustenance

@: studying Fighting, very slightly contaminated, hasted, glowing, very quick,
extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: unfitting armour, fast metabolism 1, frail 1, low mp 1, saprovore 1, tough
skin 1
a: Divine Shield, Cleansing Flame, Summon Divine Warrior, Renounce Religion
}: 13/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, slimy, silver, iron, obsidian, bone,
abyssal, demonic, glowing, magical, fiery, dark


You were on level 7 of Cocytus.
You worshipped the Shining One.
The Shining One was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 16 branches of the dungeon, and saw 97 of its levels.
You visited Pandemonium 1 time, and saw 28 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 1 time.
You visited 2 bazaars.
You also visited: Bailey and Wizlab.

You collected 15280 gold pieces.
You spent 6009 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 e - the +3,+9 giant spiked club "Ujucw" {elec, rC+}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   Occasionally, upon striking a foe, it will discharge some electrical energy
   and cause terrible harm.
   
   It protects you from cold.
 k - a +8,+9 giant spiked club of holy wrath (weapon)
 X - the +2,+7 giant club of Termination {freeze, rF++}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible
   opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   
   It greatly protects you from fire.
Armour
 t - the cursed +2 hat of the Alchemist (worn) {rElec rF+ rC+ MR+}
   (You acquired it on level 1 of the Depths)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 B - a cursed +10 pearl dragon armour (worn)
 J - a cursed +2 dwarven cloak of poison resistance (worn)
 K - a cursed gold dragon hide
Magical devices
 d - a wand of enslavement (4)
 g - a wand of heal wounds (0)
 r - a wand of teleportation (0)
 v - a wand of hasting (3)
 D - a wand of digging (6)
 I - a wand of digging (2)
 L - a wand of disintegration (10)
 P - a wand of paralysis (11)
 V - a wand of teleportation (2)
Comestibles
 h - a meat ration
 s - a snozzcumber
 C - 7 chokos
 F - 5 pears
 G - a bread ration
Scrolls
 w - a scroll of identify
Jewellery
 a - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 c - a cursed ring of sustenance (left hand)
 j - the cursed ring "Scheoga" {SustAb Str+3 Int+1}
   (You found it in Pandemonium)   
   
   [ring of sustain abilities]
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your intelligence (+1).
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 l - the cursed amulet "Kliqidao" {Cons Str+5, unknown}
   (You took it off an iron imp on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)   
   
   [amulet of conservation]
   It affects your strength (+5).
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 m - a cursed +4 ring of protection
 p - a cursed +0,+6 ring of slaying (right hand)
 q - the cursed ring "Mnidokyma" {rF++ EV-2}
   (You took it off a draconian annihilator on level 1 of the Realm of Zot)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   It affects your evasion (-2).
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 x - a cursed ring of protection from cold {unknown}
 y - the cursed ring of Robustness {AC+8}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   It affects your AC (+8).
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 E - an uncursed ring of wizardry
 M - an uncursed ring of regeneration
 O - a cursed ring of protection from fire
 R - the amulet of Issan {Cons rF+ rC+}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)   
   
   [amulet of conservation]
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
 U - an uncursed ring of see invisible
 Y - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
 Z - a cursed +5 ring of protection
Books
 i - a manual of Fighting
 H - a book of the Tempests   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Static Discharge                   Conjuration/Air              3
   Lightning Bolt                     Conjuration/Air              5
   Fireball                           Conjuration/Fire             5
   Tornado                            Air                          9
   Shatter                            Earth                        9
Miscellaneous
 b - a phial of floods
 f - a phial of floods
 n - a phial of floods
 o - the horn of Geryon
 u - a fan of gales
 A - a fan of gales
 N - a fan of gales
 T - a phial of floods


   Skills:
 O Level 27 Fighting
 - Level 22,1 Maces & Flails
 O Level 27 Armour
 - Level 8,0 Dodging
 O Level 27 Spellcasting
 - Level 17,5 Charms
 - Level 19,0 Translocations
 + Level 22,2 Evocations


You had 58 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          0%          2    None
b - Apportation           Tloc           #####.....   0%          1    None
c - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ###...       1%          2    None
d - Spectral Weapon       Hex/Chrm       ###.....     1%          3    None
e - Infusion              Chrm           ####..       0%          1    None
f - Haste                 Chrm           ####....     1%          6    ######.
g - Controlled Blink      Tloc           N/A          1%          7    #######


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (16/16)            Temple (0/1) D:6             Orc (4/4) D:9
    Elf (3/3) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:8           Swamp (5/5) Lair:4
  Snake (5/5) Lair:3        Slime (6/6) Lair:8       Vaults (5/5) D:14
  Blade (0/1) Vaults:3      Crypt (5/5) Vaults:2       Tomb (0/3) Crypt:2
   Hell (1/1)                 Dis (7/7) Hell            Geh (7/7) Hell
    Coc (7/7) Hell            Tar (7/7) Hell            Zot (5/5) Depths:6
 Depths (6/6) D:16       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:4 =   D:8 *}(?   D:9 /*!   D:12 [   D:16 [   Orc:4 ::**   Elf:2 ?   Vaults:4 }=   Depths:3 *[?   Depths:6 [

Portals:
Hell: Lair:8 Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5 Depths:6
Abyss: Depths:4
Pandemonium: Depths:2 Depths:3
Ziggurat: Depths:2

Annotations:
D:16 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne
Lair:6 exclusion: 3 oklob plants
Depths:4 exclusion: oklob plant


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have a fast metabolism.
You can tolerate rotten meat.
You have tough skin (AC +1).
You are frail (-10% HP).
Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).


Message History

The Ice Fiend is heavily wounded.
The Ice Fiend calls on the powers of darkness!
Your body is wracked with pain!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The ice devil hits you but does no damage.
The skeletal warrior hits you with a mace!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Zapping: v - a wand of hasting (4)
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - you
You feel yourself speed up. This wand has 3 charges left. The Ice Fiend claws you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The Ice Fiend freezes you! You resist.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The Ice Fiend claws you but does no damage.
The Ice Fiend calls on the powers of darkness!
Your body is wracked with pain!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The ice devil barely misses you.
The skeletal warrior hits you with a mace!
You die...

Ogres are bad.

Game ran out of food. What I have on me is literally the last permafood left in the game, barring some strawberries and Pan/Abyss. Cocytus:7 was a sea of deep water, I had no flight, no consumables, panicked, started randomly teleported, Fiends finished me off.

Horrible Ogre defenses meant I spent a ton of consumables each fight and Torment wrecked me - large health pool only meant a ton of time sitting around trying to rest some of the damage up, before fiends came and bolted my fat ass. All enemies were capable of hurting me - perhaps I shouldve gone GDA for the higher defenses, but I thought a hybrid would be easier in the lighter armour.

Did a ton of damage with a holy GSC and Spectral Weapon, but it didn't really matter - hells are about attrition, and ogres are apparently really bad at attrition. Should've bailed with 13 runes. Not sure why I didn't.

Total enjoyment of run : 5-10%.

[Delta Foxtrot]

What's your enjoyment on pre-extended game for that run?

My OgBe 4-runer was fun as hell (maybe because I didn't go there?). So strong, so squishy, so crafty. Was a fun run.

[tompliss]

Your 8 dodging was nearly useless in Pearl Dragon armor, that's why you have so low defences, I think. Also, you didn't find more protection spell (other than repel) ?

[Leafsnail]

39AC/10EV isn't really low defenses, and GDA would have murdered your spells anyway.  Then again maybe your strength would have helped.

[Robsoie]

@Graven Even if the character was lost, i must congratulate you on getting 13 runes.
It's been a long time i didn't ran any Ogre in Crawl, but my old attempts always ended into disaster much before the point you reached.

[moondowner]

I just thought I'd have a go at DC:SS after a really long time, and damn. I can't be a Hill Orc Priest anymore, no more orc armies for me