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By the way, am I the only one who looks up what each character's name means as they're introduced?

Hmm I don't care about the character names, usually the sword names get displayed with their meaning at the top of the screen with the DB subs though and the special attacks.

[Hawkfrost]

If you've never seen anime before, Watch deathnote. I can guarantee that you'll like it. Ask your girlfriend about it. She'll know it.

She does. I'm planning on it, especially after seeing the 'eat a chip!' scene on youtube.

Any program that does something like that is something worth watching.

It has some pretty epic moments, and for once the main character is smart and genre-savvy.
I love Death Note, I wish they would show it again here.

[JoshuaFH]

I'm of the belief that Yachiru (the little pink haired girl that hangs out on his shoulder all the time) is his secretly his zanpaktou. Now, if so, he still wouldn't be able to unleash his actual shikai with her name, seeing as HE named HER, and Yachiru claimed to not have a name when they first met.

But then again, it's Bleach, so whatever the real answer is it's bound to suck pretty hard.

[Neruz]

By hollow form, do you mean the hollow form,

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or the mask he pulls out against Ulqiorra?

Technically both, since the spoilered item appears to grant the same instant regeneration.


If we assume that when he gets complete and total control of his inner hollow, he'll get all it's powers, and then we look at the crazy-ass powers his inner hollow has (It'd be Vasto Lorde class easy) then Tite has plenty more powerups to throw at Ichigo yet.

I'm of the belief that Yachiru (the little pink haired girl that hangs out on his shoulder all the time) is his secretly his zanpaktou. Now, if so, he still wouldn't be able to unleash his actual shikai with her name, seeing as HE named HER, and Yachiru claimed to not have a name when they first met.

But then again, it's Bleach, so whatever the real answer is it's bound to suck pretty hard.

Possible, unlikely but possible; Stark proved that.

[JoshuaFH]

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Crazy powerful hollow Ichigo is retarded. It's an asspull, and I really don't appreciate how no matter who the protagonists are facing, they always have a secret power or some shit to wipe them out. Hell, Ulquiorra's reiatsu was described as being a "sea in the sky" and being unlike anything they've ever encountered before. It seemed absolutely EPIC... and then he just get's killed like nothing... and the 1-3 espada, as I've already stated, had the making of greatness, but were whored out for the worfness.

The only worse asspull is 0 Espada Yammy... why the hell would Aizen have left him in Huecu Mundo if he was so powerful?!

Well, there's still the autistic kid, Wonderweiss...

[Neruz]

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Crazy powerful hollow Ichigo is retarded. It's an asspull, and I really don't appreciate how no matter who the protagonists are facing, they always have a secret power or some shit to wipe them out. Hell, Ulquiorra's reiatsu was described as being a "sea in the sky" and being unlike anything they've ever encountered before. It seemed absolutely EPIC... and then he just get's killed like nothing... and the 1-3 espada, as I've already stated, had the making of greatness, but were whored out for the worfness.

The only worse asspull is 0 Espada Yammy... why the hell would Aizen have left him in Huecu Mundo if he was so powerful?!

Well, there's still the autistic kid, Wonderweiss...

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Aizen's plan with the Arrancar doesn't seem to make any sense at all; he's supposed to be building this epic army of super-dudes to destroy Soul Society, but then we find out that he apparantly doesn't actually give a damn about his Arrancar (see Halibel), and of course when you think about his horrifically broken Zanpaktou it's pretty ovbious he doesn't need them anyway.

I can't decide where Tite just can't decide what he wants the antagonists to do, or whether this whole arc is just Aizen being bored and killing some time.



Also, Hollow Ichigo being imba isn't really surprising at all; we've gotten glimpses of the kind of imba shit Hollow Ichigo can pull before, it assraped Byakuya in about 6 seconds flat and when it came out a bit during the Vizard training it showed some seriously crazy abilities. It's also worth noting that the Inner Hollow was focusing on beating Ichigo at that time and wasn't actually in total control of the body.

Hollow Ichigo is goddamn scary. I fully and completely suspect that if he ever got loose he would take on the entire cast and win.


Finally; every new enemy 'has a reiatsu unlike anything they've seen before'. That line gets uttered at least once every major fight by mandate, often twice if someone has a power-up ability. That's just standard Shonen fare.

[JoshuaFH]

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I know, but that really seemed like it meant something at the time. I'm not a fan of being disappointed. How the heck is hollow Ichigo so powerful anyhow? I thought the way hollows worked was that when a tortured soul isn't sent by a soul reaper, he becomes a hollow. The hollow then eats human souls to get stronger, and when he gets strong enough, he SOMEHOW get's beamed into Hueco Mundo, and get's made into a Menos Grande. It was explained that these types of hollow lose sentience, and become part of some weird hierachal hivemind, but the ones the retain their individuality can attack the other menos, get stronger, and become an Adjuchas. Then they just repeat the process of eating others until they become a Vasto Lorde, the strongest in power in the hierarchy, but the smallest in body size.

So, what this implies is that Ichigo's regular hollow form, the very lowest form a hollow can have in the Hueco Mundo hierarchy, by itself, is stronger than that of a Vasto Lord, which is possibly comprised of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of souls by itself.

[JoshuaFH]

Also, there isn't enough Chad-love in Bleach. Chad's my favorite character, and I can't believe he's one of the weaker characters from how cool he is.

In other news, I saw a guy watching One Piece on one of the school computers, and one I asked him what he was watching he got really super defensive, clicked away, and was basically really hostile until I went away. I'm not sure if he thinks there's some sort of stigma associated with anime or something because it has me sort of worried if he's some sort of closet One Piece fan and doesn't want anyone else to know.

[Hawkfrost]

In other news, I saw a guy watching One Piece on one of the school computers, and one I asked him what he was watching he got really super defensive, clicked away, and was basically really hostile until I went away. I'm not sure if he thinks there's some sort of stigma associated with anime or something because it has me sort of worried if he's some sort of closet One Piece fan and doesn't want anyone else to know.

At my old school, none of my friends ever talked about anime, ever.
One day I mentioned something from one I had watched the day before, and suddenly I find out ALL of them are secret anime watchers. This threw me off because most of them were the kind of guys who are very popular, especially with girls.
We had a good chat about anime in class instead of doing work, and I noticed one of the girls who sits nearby giving us a look like we just sprouted nine-inch horns.

Rule one of anime in the West; you do not mention anime. If you do, you leave yourself open to rabid heckling and insults.

[JoshuaFH]

While I have not encountered that, I feel bad that such an attitude exists anywhere.

Then I feel worse that I'm so anti-social that I'm just discovering this now.

[Itnetlolor]

In other news, I saw a guy watching One Piece on one of the school computers, and one I asked him what he was watching he got really super defensive, clicked away, and was basically really hostile until I went away. I'm not sure if he thinks there's some sort of stigma associated with anime or something because it has me sort of worried if he's some sort of closet One Piece fan and doesn't want anyone else to know.

At my old school, none of my friends ever talked about anime, ever.
One day I mentioned something from one I had watched the day before, and suddenly I find out ALL of them are secret anime watchers. This threw me off because most of them were the kind of guys who are very popular, especially with girls.
We had a good chat about anime in class instead of doing work, and I noticed one of the girls who sits nearby giving us a look like we just sprouted nine-inch horns.

Rule one of anime in the West; you do not mention anime. If you do, you leave yourself open to rabid heckling and insults.

During high school, I was one of those people that were put off by anime; that is, until someone I knew in one of my classes, near the end of the year when it's okay to do whatever when classwork is done early or something like that, decided to introduce the class to Trigun. She brought in a tape of one of the middle episodes; I think it was the one with Vash vs. The Nebraska Family. It actually caught my attention, but apparently nobody elses'.

Aside already being an outcast at the school, I never felt so out of place when I actually enjoyed watching the episode and talking about it after class. Of course, it took until a couple years later, when I ran out of [as] shows to watch, I tried watching some Lupin III, and got interested, noticed from the commercials Trigun, and watched it from the beginning. Been a fan of anime since.

Funny thing though; running into my old classmates again, they're boring as hell. Unless alcohol is involved or something, would they be interested to chat, or some bullcrap like that. Why has my surroundings been starting to look more like a TV show, I wonder sometimes. At least being an outcast is more fun these days. At least, in my case.

[Neruz]

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I know, but that really seemed like it meant something at the time. I'm not a fan of being disappointed. How the heck is hollow Ichigo so powerful anyhow? I thought the way hollows worked was that when a tortured soul isn't sent by a soul reaper, he becomes a hollow. The hollow then eats human souls to get stronger, and when he gets strong enough, he SOMEHOW get's beamed into Hueco Mundo, and get's made into a Menos Grande. It was explained that these types of hollow lose sentience, and become part of some weird hierachal hivemind, but the ones the retain their individuality can attack the other menos, get stronger, and become an Adjuchas. Then they just repeat the process of eating others until they become a Vasto Lorde, the strongest in power in the hierarchy, but the smallest in body size.

So, what this implies is that Ichigo's regular hollow form, the very lowest form a hollow can have in the Hueco Mundo hierarchy, by itself, is stronger than that of a Vasto Lord, which is possibly comprised of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of souls by itself.

Correct.

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Remember that Ichigo has a rediculous reiatsu himself, it's not quite Kenpachi level, but damn it's close. Ichigo also doesn't really like fighting; so he tends not to go all out from the word go, wheras Hollow Ichigo likes kicking ass and knows how to use Ichigo's full power.

Remember his fight with Grimmjow? As soon as Ichigo gets serious he beats the crap out of Grimmjow. Ichigo is a really powerful sonofabitch, Ulquiorra noted that at it's peak Ichigo's reiatsu was stronger than his own, and we've seen how strong Ulquiorra's reiatsu is.


If Ichigo ever stopped fucking around and started seriously fighting like his Hollow self does, he'd be captain level, easy. He's already defeated two captains remember? And that was before he got his Hollow mask.

The problem is, Ichigo keeps being a wuss and getting beaten up by enemies he should rightly defeat off the bat, but doesn't because he refuses to fight for fightin's sake.

[Hawkfrost]

Funny thing though; running into my old classmates again, they're boring as hell. Unless alcohol is involved or something, would they be interested to chat, or some bullcrap like that. Why has my surroundings been starting to look more like a TV show, I wonder sometimes. At least being an outcast is more fun these days. At least, in my case.

Rule seventeen of Humans*; how interesting someone is is in direct correlation to how popular they are. In general, the more popular someone is, the more mind-numbingly boring they are. People who are popular only get that way by either being totally awesome(incredibly rare occurrence), or by being totally normal and have the personality of a small rock.



*From Frosty's Guide to the Modern World.

[Itnetlolor]

Funny thing though; running into my old classmates again, they're boring as hell. Unless alcohol is involved or something, would they be interested to chat, or some bullcrap like that. Why has my surroundings been starting to look more like a TV show, I wonder sometimes. At least being an outcast is more fun these days. At least, in my case.

Rule seventeen of Humans*; how interesting someone is is in direct correlation to how popular they are. In general, the more popular someone is, the more mind-numbingly boring they are. People who are popular only get that way by either being totally awesome(incredibly rare occurrence), or by being totally normal and have the personality of a small rock.



*From Frosty's Guide to the Modern World.

Sounds like in these cases, the popular person has so much natural charisma, they become entirely lazy, and the overall personality that made them popular becomes atrophied, thereby making them less interesting in the long run, and relying on past connections, or methods of friendship (that are outdated by then) to get through life (IE- Getting a decent job, expanding connections to better stuff/deals, etc.).

As for the unpopular, they're less privileged, meaning they must work to survive, and thus expanding their knowledge and friendbase (in due time). Seeing as they are less likely to be gifted with better charisma, acquiring connections is harder, but more worth it due to the extra knowledge and experience gathered, thereby allowing more information to be transferred, making them more interesting because they tried. But only those who have had at least almost as much experience would be able to notice such.

That's my observation at least. Simplified, it practically depends on just how much effort someone puts in to keep a conversation alive. Amazingly, popular people don't need much, but they sure put enough in later. :shrug: I guess a side-note could also be that with fewer friends, more interests can be acquired and committed towards, due to less distractions. Provided loneliness doesn't take over.

[/DERAIL]

[Jackrabbit]

Well.

Anime becomes the first thing to elicit an outward emotional response from me since watching Gallipoli last year. And by thing I mean 'show, movie, ect'.

I may have underestimated this as a medium.