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[Furtuka]

Yo hey guess what

Zoids are back

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2018/02/27/zoids-wild-tv-anime-runs-rampant-in-summer-of-2018
http://www.siliconera.com/2018/02/27/zoids-makes-return-new-cross-media-project-includes-nintendo-switch-game/

[Cruxador]

Yo hey guess what

Zoids are back

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2018/02/27/zoids-wild-tv-anime-runs-rampant-in-summer-of-2018
http://www.siliconera.com/2018/02/27/zoids-makes-return-new-cross-media-project-includes-nintendo-switch-game/

I feel like I grew out of that fifteen or twenty years ago, but I loved that shit when I was little. I guess it's joining the Digimon and DragonBall stuff in nostalgic new versions of a series. Not to mention stuff like the recent FMA or upcoming LotGH remakes, though those real with different generations.

[Flying Dice]

Caught another episode of the Death March anime adaption. Confirmed for Do Not Watch, they're completely butchering the plot and cutting out a lot of characterization for no apparent reason. Okay, in fairness, for the very apparent reason that they just want another otaku-bait OP isekai haremshit series despite picking probably the worst possible source to derive such a show from.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Alright, so in canon the group meets Mia (the elf girl) under the following circumstances: they're traveling on the road after leaving the first city when they encounter a group of ratfolk cavalry fleeing a swarm of flying giant ants. After a bit of shifting around and fleeing, the ratfolk intercept the wagon and hand Mia off to the party's care, asking them to return her to her people, before turning back to fight a delaying action, which results in their death. There's a running battle with the surviving ants, which the party survives. They bury the ratfolk and hide the corpses of the ants to avoid suspicion. Other plot happens, it's revealed that the ratfolk leader was a friend of Mia's (IIRC) father taking care of her.

In the anime, they have the ratfolk luring the ants towards the starting city while the party is still in it (resulting in a bunch of pointless extra scenes being created from whole cloth in place of worldbuilding and character exploration that was removed) for the purpose of doing the whole LE HEROIC PARTY IN PUBLIC EYE schtick. There's a whole lot of other plot-relevant stuff I'm glossing over here, but once again the central thrust is that the team doing the anime are radically altering the plot just to make Satou look cool in front of other people. Despite a big chunk of his characterization in canon being a strong desire to avoid attention and stay under the radar.

Oh, and as a fun side bit. Remember me talking about Satou buying the prototype flashcards from the merchant and all the neat worldbuilding behind that? How the guy came up with the idea but discovered that it wasn't tenable because the cost of production was too high for mass distribution but too low to attract rich patrons who could afford better methods? How there were further scenes with the children using those and the picture books to learn to read? In the anime there was a single 5-second scene where Satou looks at one, the merchant says "I made them to teach the children in my village to read," and that's the last we ever see or hear of the matter.

Now imagine that same lack of care being applied to basically everything that made the WN interesting. Yeah, the team making the adaption are goddamn incompetents to be going this route when there's already successful proof of people being interested in nuanced, worldbuilding-heavy isekai-style works without the constant battle harem overlay.

[Tack]

Remember me talking about Satou buying the prototype flashcards from the merchant?

Oh, it comes up again.
They squeeze it for moe.

[NAV]

So I'm trying to show my sister Fullmetal Alchemist. I know yer supposed to switch from the original to brotherhood at some point. Remember someone around these parts having it in their signiture. Can anyone help me?

[Flying Dice]

Remember me talking about Satou buying the prototype flashcards from the merchant?

Oh, it comes up again.
They squeeze it for moe.

Oh boy, how utterly shocking and unexpected. I would never have expected this turn of events. Bravo to those brave souls in whatever shitty animation studio made this adaption, they are truly taking an untraveled path.

[Zangi]

So I'm trying to show my sister Fullmetal Alchemist. I know yer supposed to switch from the original to brotherhood at some point. Remember someone around these parts having it in their signiture. Can anyone help me?

A few days late, but mine.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=28404.msg6303939#msg6303939

[NAV]

Thanks

[heydude6]

Honestly, I’d recommend watching the 2003 adaptation in its entirety first. Even though it does split from the manga at the halfway point, it still manages to tell a damn good story up until the last 3 episodes. Even then the ending isn’t godawful, it’s just very disappointing.

Take my opinion with a grain of salt though. I’ve only seen the first 3 episodes of brotherhood and it’s incredibly painful seeing how badly they butchered scenes from 2003. I know it gets better later on (at least because there’s no 2003 version to compare it to), but I’m having trouble justifying the time investment required to get to the good point.

I think 2003 gets unnecessary flack and I wish more people would appreciate the things it did right. It’s not a bad show.

[Cruxador]

People forget this but the 2003 version was widely known in its time for a reason, and it itself is the reason that FMA for popular at all

[scriver]

I casually saw FMA original back in the day, and recently looked up Brotherhood - Brotherhood definitely has it's better points (particularly when it comes to the story itself), but I still think I prefer the original as a whole. I feel like it's just better paced, more atmospheric and better at evoking feelings and sympathy for characters.

[NAV]

Heh, my sister gave up after 2 episodes and said she just wasn't interested. Her loss.
I read the entire manga then watched brotherhood. Never saw the 2003 version. Probably not gonna at this point.

Very recently watched Evangelion for the second time. Brought me back to when I was a depressed 14 year old with an absent father. Gonna invite some friends over to watch the rebuilds pretty soon.

Somewhat recent watched Serial Experiments Lain. Weird. I think I kinda get it?

Started watching Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress. I like the apocalyptic steampunk samurai setting but otherwise it seems mostly meh.

My GF is watching Dragon Ball Z. I don't get the appeal.

[TamerVirus]

Shit, they still haven't got around to Rebuild 4 did they?

[NAV]

Haha nope. Too busy working on godzilla.

[MantisMan]

I say the 2003 version of Fullmetal Alchemist is the better one overall. It draws you in much better than Brotherhood.

The things to keep in mind about the 2003 version diverging from the manga are twofold: First, the manga was literally still being written at the time, so they're not fucking around out of disrespect or anything like that. Second, the divergence was done with the input and blessing of the original author, so it still has that authentic feel.

It's got a couple of filler episodes with minor plotlines that don't come up again and are just there to expound a bit on ideas. Ideas like the Elric brothers' fame being used by others for their own gain, or something about getting so obsessed over something to the point where it ruins lives. They're still thematically appropriate, it's just that the characters introduced in those episodes don't end up being important in the larger plot.

Brotherhood had a very wide story. This feels like a weakness compared to the depth the 2003 version had. There were far more characters, and we kept switching between them when I was just starting to really enjoy what the current focus characters were doing. I never really cared that much about Scar's plotline in Brotherhood (though I could see some potential in it if it was done as a side story manga and the cast was explored in more depth.), and I never gave two shits about the human chimera soldiers later on. Most of the latter parts of Brotherhood, after it went a different direction from the 2003 version, felt shallow and lacking compared to the 2003 iteration.

For the moment, I'm working my way through Darker than Black, and Babylon 5. I'm also keeping up with Overlord Season 2. I read all the light novels I could find, but it's still nice to see things getting animated.

I'm at Episode 15 of Darker than Black, right after the opening visuals changed. So far, my impressions are that the dub is superb, the worldbuilding is subtle and well-done, and that the main character has a believable set of skills. He's effective at what he does, but not so overpowered that he stops fitting in with the world around him.