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Author Topic: I like anime, do you like anime?  (Read 3072758 times)

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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #28965 on: September 18, 2016, 02:23:31 pm »

I still need to watch those. I've read probably a couple dozen fanfics that involved crossovers with it at this point, but I've still not seen any of the series itself :V

You should, since they're pretty good and short as heck. The first Gunbuster is pretty much a '80s Sport Anime' but with giant robot fights instead of soccer/whatever. The second Gunbuster 15~ years later and is more like a proto-Gurren Lagann. Both are definitely worth you time, if you're into giant robots and the like.
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« Reply #28966 on: September 18, 2016, 02:24:39 pm »

First one is apparently the proto-evangelion.
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« Reply #28967 on: September 18, 2016, 02:29:04 pm »

Well arguably that title belongs to Ideon if you look into the actual inspirations and history. But yes, Gunbuster was Anno's first super big break and the other mecha project he's known for if that's what you mean. :P

Edit: also yeah what USEC says below
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #28968 on: September 18, 2016, 02:33:15 pm »

First one is apparently the proto-evangelion.

Nah, it wears its sports-anime inspiration on its sleeve. Nothing proto-evangelion about it, besides the fact that it came beforehand. Gunbuster 2? 100% proto-Gurren Lagann.
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« Reply #28969 on: September 18, 2016, 06:01:55 pm »

Another Gurren Lagann thing is Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi (Abenobashi Mahou Shoutengai) from 2002. At least episode three. Which was not incidentally storyboarded and directed by some random guy called "Hiroyuki Imaishi". Before he debuted as a director with Dead Leaves, they gave him one episode of Abenobashi to screw around with.

In each Abenobashi episode they get transported to an alternate dimension version of the shopping district they're trying to save. Imaishi's episode has them in a future space city with robots that look like TTGL and this one girl (who's has a version in all the dimensions) is a space pirate who could blend right into TTGL, Kill La Kill, or Space Patrol Luluco:

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« Reply #28970 on: September 18, 2016, 06:10:22 pm »

Boob jokes are a huge thing in magical shopping Arcade along with what I call "Male Gaze Writing"

Basically the female characters are written like their dialog was written by a man :P

I think it was episode 2 that made me never want to watch that show again...
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« Reply #28971 on: September 18, 2016, 06:11:23 pm »

It's a good thing the people who worked on Abenobashi stopped with the boob thing after that ;D

Interesting note: the guy who directed Abenobashi and let Imaishi direct one episode, directed one episode of TTGL in return. I'd guess Imaishi was paying him back for giving him his break into directing.
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« Reply #28972 on: September 18, 2016, 06:12:20 pm »

It's a good thing the people who worked on Abenobashi stopped with the boob thing after that ;D

WOW!!!

Maybe I stopped watching too early then. Since goodness did that show get... a bit uncomfortably filthy... Slash pedophilic.
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« Reply #28973 on: September 18, 2016, 06:16:05 pm »

That was sarcasm ... since some of the people who worked on it made series with lots of boobs later on (TTGL and Kill La Kill, as well as some harem comedies). Well at least none of the directors seem to have worked on Gainax's "He is My Master" (probably the lowest point in Gainax history: a voyeuristic pedobestiality comedy romp), though people from that series did in fact work on TTGL as well.
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« Reply #28974 on: September 18, 2016, 06:24:22 pm »

TTGL and KLK had high quality boobs dammit! Don't hate on those, don't take this from lonely teenage boys without access to real porn yet!

Also, last of probably this season for Re:Zero was ok, but I stand by my statement that Rem is best girl.
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« Reply #28975 on: September 18, 2016, 06:42:04 pm »

TTGL and KLK had high quality boobs dammit! Don't hate on those, don't take this from lonely teenage boys without access to real porn yet!

There's a bunch of statistical research that suggests lower-level sexual content might substitute for other more harmful sexual things rather than encouraging it - e.g. the research that rate of internet adoption correlates very strongly with the rate at which rape statistics fell in each of the 50 states (almost all amongst the 15-24 age group), but they don't correlate well with falls in violent crimes in general. So there's some weird strong correlation between people getting internet connections and young men committing less rapes. While any explanation is possible, the only real plausible one is that internet porn substituted for going out assaulting women.

About 6 countries that legalized porn, but neglected to enforce minimum ages, saw falling rates of child abuse after the legalization. Such falls have not been shown in countries which legalized porn but were more strict on underage depiction. So there's evidence that "pretend sexual material" does in fact substitute for real acts, rather than encourage them (or at least it reduces them overall). The upshot is trying to scrub all sexual references and imagery from normal media is almost certainly not only silly, but potentially harmful to society, as it may direct young people more towards actual porn or actual real-world risky sex and/or rape.

There's this thing you hear criticizing fanservice: "why does Show X have fanservice, that's just low-level porn. Go watch porn if you want that". I don't think it's that healthy for their to be hardcore porn and normal media with an artificial gulf between them, and the gaps between genres are in fact artificially contrived: that's why the types of genres in Japan are similar but not the same as the genre breakdown in the West.

Anglo-speaking society is just way too puritan about this stuff. e.g. anime watchers in America want anime to be "taken seriously" so they want all the adult-oriented fanservice removed to make them more like American cartoons. Which is oddly ironic that they want something scrubbed of anything that makes it non-kid-safe in the goal of making it more sophisticated ;D I had a French friend who saw Ranma 1/2 on TV as a child. Nobody made a fuss about the nudity.
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« Reply #28976 on: September 18, 2016, 06:45:59 pm »

the research that rate of internet adoption correlates well with falling rape statistics in each of the 50 states.

The internet kills rapists, gotcha.
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« Reply #28977 on: September 18, 2016, 06:51:39 pm »

Constant fapping pre-kills rapists.

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« Reply #28978 on: September 18, 2016, 06:58:06 pm »

TTGL and KLK had high quality boobs dammit! Don't hate on those, don't take this from lonely teenage boys without access to real porn yet!

Also, last of probably this season for Re:Zero was ok, but I stand by my statement that Rem is best girl.
V-very.. Very, high quality breasts.
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« Reply #28979 on: September 18, 2016, 07:01:45 pm »

Constant fapping pre-kills rapists.

Technologists have removed sex offenders from society by trapping them in an imaginary world of infinite pleasure, gotcha.
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