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[i2amroy]

What's Kaleid Liner? Is it good?

It's a magical girl spinoff that panders to pedophiles.

Which is a shame, because the core concept of "Zelretch takes apprentices and decides to fuck with them by making them act like magical girls" is hilarious.

For what it's worth, if you're one of those people who can drown in fanservice that you might not agree with and still just shrug it all off (those rare few of us) it's actually a pretty funny/cool show that matches the exact hilarity you describe with the occasional epic/horrifying moment that the Fate series is so good at hitting just the right way.

I mean it's still definitely not a show you watch in public (and for some parts you probably want your headphones on), but if you're one of those rare few who can ignore high levels of fanservice and you've got that Fate itch then it can help hold you over until the Heaven's Feel movies start to come out at least.

[Max™]

Plus uh... that moment Furtuka was talking about just happened in 3rei ep 10 I think.

[Flying Dice]

I mean, I'm normally like that, but from what I remember I tried to watch it and turned it off partway through the first episode since that was basically just Illya flashing Shirou and the audience repeatedly. And yeah, that one bit that was in the scrapbook Furtuka posted is not exactly a good mark, since I was in the party that spent pretty much every experiential moment of F/SN mentally chanting "Kill Shinji and Zouken! Kill 'em yesterday!"

[Furtuka]

I mean, I'm normally like that, but from what I remember I tried to watch it and turned it off partway through the first episode since that was basically just Illya flashing Shirou and the audience repeatedly. And yeah, that one bit that was in the scrapbook Furtuka posted is not exactly a good mark, since I was in the party that spent pretty much every experiential moment of F/SN mentally chanting "Kill Shinji and Zouken! Kill 'em yesterday!"

Well if you want to know in regards to that...

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Oooh Shinji gets killed aright. He almost literally gets double killed~

Also punched in the face.

Zouken's already dead at the start of this story. The Miyuverse is... quite different in terms of backstory. The point of divergence goes all the way back to the formation of the Holy Grail War.

[Max™]

Yup, and it isn't like this was exactly the most uh, Victorian Sensibility friendly series in the first place, what with it originally being a dating/H-game that accidentally a whole interesting setting and storyline.

[Cruxador]

Yup, and it isn't like this was exactly the most uh, Victorian Sensibility friendly series in the first place, what with it originally being a dating/H-game that accidentally a whole interesting setting and storyline.

I don't know about accidentally. The dating/H-game market of Japan is pretty good and lots of good things come out of it, but also having sexual content is pretty much the only way that games at that tier of budget can financially survive over there. So a lot of the creativity, both in story and to a lesser degree in gameplay, winds up in games that would generally be considered sketchy at best in western markets.

[i2amroy]

I mean, I'm normally like that, but from what I remember I tried to watch it and turned it off partway through the first episode since that was basically just Illya flashing Shirou and the audience repeatedly.

Yeah, you don't run into your first kinda Fate-y darkish moment till episode 2 IIRC, and then not again till like 5-6ish. In a lot of ways it follows the standard Fate series conventions of starting with slice of life and then mixing in a few dark moments, followed with more slice of life and a sprinkle of more dark/epic moments; just in this case replace half of the slice of life stuff with a brand of fanservice that is much harder to ignore for many people.

To tell the truth the fanservice stuff on it's own bothers me more than it probably seems here in the defending position, but honestly I'm just a super big sucker for that particularly blended note of dark and epic that the various Fate (and some other Nasuverse) series manage to strike, plus Kaleid is still a recent enough show that you can get a bit of the epic fights going on (though obviously not to the extent of UBW) due to modern animation techniques/tech. So it's also kinda a case where the pluses from those moments help to counterbalance the cringe from others.

I mean it's definitely meh or worse in plenty of aspects, but if you're one of those people like me who has watched F/Z twice, UBW three times, and some of the semi-related other nasuverse stuff like Kara no Kyoukai (which is also an amazing set of films) or Tsukihime searching for that particular note of darkness and despair tinged with moments of epic, and you still crave a bit more, then you can certainly find it ringing out in Kaleid, albeit surrounded by a much different accompaniment than what it usually plays with.

[Flying Dice]

Fair enough. And if I could stomach ZnT I can probably get over this.

On a related note, Red River Ch.3 reaction coming soonish.

[IronyOwl]

Fair enough. And if I could stomach ZnT I can probably get over this.

On a related note, Red River Ch.3 reaction coming soonish.

Aw yeah.

[Max™]

Yeah, that first big battle with Ilya using the Archer card vs Saber Alter is surprisingly badass, even given the context of having literally watched UBW and /Zero just before starting Kaleid, and so being spoiled by the ufotable stuff.

[Max™]

Oh god... I just "got" why it is called Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Ilya, I think.

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Seriously, I know some of this already from having seen stuff on wikis and reading further in the manga than the show, but it is spoilers related if you haven't yet.
Highlight me to continue!

[TheBiggerFish]

Abbr doesn't work for mobile browsers, BTW.

[Sirus]

No, but you can always quote the post to read it in plaintext.

[TheBiggerFish]

No, but you can always quote the post to read it in plaintext.

It's an extra, annoying, step.

[Sirus]

* Sirus shrugs and rides away