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[Twinwolf]

Making my way through the show now, I agree I liked Hamon better. The Stands aren't bad though, in my opinion.

[Reelya]

How about Monster, Neo? That's a murder mystery / thriller that goes for 75 episodes. Sure it's not really a traditional "detective" one but it fits the bill otherwise.

[Leafsnail]

Hamon is mostly a generic power that can do whatever is called for at the time. There's also not much differentiation between individual hamon users. Stands tend to be far more distinct/unique and operate according to an established set of rules (although a lot of the early SDC stands are fairly physical and generic so it takes a while for the difference to become clear).

If you're going to keep writing manga indefinitely I think stands (or something like them) are a far superior system to hamon. With hamon you'd just have to keep power creeping and getting ever powerful users (you can kindof see this process happening in Phantom Blood through Battle Tendancy where you move from vampires to super vampires to super duper vampires). With stands you can just introduce a power that's different but not necessarily stronger than the last one every week.

I would love to see more anime with the visual style of Katanagatari, and less anime with the hollow feeling ending of Katanagatari.

I agree, Katanagatari looked amazing. There are a lot of series that are just settled into the "default" style which looks pretty sterile.

[Neonivek]

As I said my issue isn't that I wanted there to keep being Hamon users.

I just wanted a wink and a nod that it still exists, that it stopped existing, or what have you.

But Season 4 and on there is no evidence, that I am told anyhow, that it ever existed. Since I guess humanity sucks Which would be the thematic reasoning

[Furtuka]

As I said my issue isn't that I wanted there to keep being Hamon users.

I just wanted a wink and a nod that it still exists, that it stopped existing, or what have you.

But Season 4 and on there is no evidence, that I am told anyhow, that it ever existed. Since I guess humanity sucks Which would be the thematic reasoning

How so? Humanity being awesome is one of the whole themes of the entire series. Araki has even called it a "celebration of humanity". Just because the series doesn't focus on channeling the power of the sun anymore doesn't mean that people are somehow lessened by it.

Yes someone can get a Stand from outside intervention, but people can also be born with them, or obtain them by just becoming so freaking good at a skill that it brings them to spontaneously gain a Stand, and the concept behind them is that they are the manifestations of someone's fighting spirit. In fact the stand users in Part 3 are almost entirely composed of the middle type.

[IronyOwl]

BFEL watched Yuki Yuna is a hero and now we're arguing over who was the Heroest in the series.

Well? Who won?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Obviously Togo, for DOING WHAT MUST BE DONE. Repeatedly.

As I said my issue isn't that I wanted there to keep being Hamon users.

I just wanted a wink and a nod that it still exists, that it stopped existing, or what have you.

But Season 4 and on there is no evidence, that I am told anyhow, that it ever existed. Since I guess humanity sucks Which would be the thematic reasoning

Hamon was always a really rare, special thing, though, which makes it hard to address in a natural way, especially given the settings and goings-on of most of the later parts. You'd basically have to shoehorn any references or explanations of it in for no real benefit other than confirming that Parts 1 and 2 are probably still canon.

I feel like Joseph still using it- and indeed, being better with it than with his Stand- in Part 3 was about as close as you could hope for otherwise.

[BFEL]

BFEL watched Yuki Yuna is a hero and now we're arguing over who was the Heroest in the series.

Well? Who won?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Obviously Togo, for DOING WHAT MUST BE DONE. Repeatedly.

The spoiler was my argument, but Karne refuses to see the truth. He is unabating in his Yuna-centric worldview. Convinced that as Yuna is "the female Kamina" she is automagically the heroest, but forgets that while Kamina was the broest, he was not the heroest.

Also, apparently my computers dictionary didn't recognize unabating as a word, but automagically went through with no comment from it. Good job computer.

[Orange Wizard]

I dunno, hero mantle IMO goes to the Shinju.

[Neonivek]

Mind you my favorite part of Joe Joe's Adventures is when the villain realizes that every single living being on earth can develop a stand.

So he uses a technique and gets a pack of dogs and chimps to fight for him all with full stand abilities.

And I know what you are all saying "Neonivek that didn't happen!"

And this is where I say: "Yes... But it could have happened."

Well... Ok it has one small little detail... "So he uses a technique and gets a pack of dogs and chimps, all with crazy hair, to fight for him all with full stand abilities"

[KingofstarrySkies]

>joe joe

[Leafsnail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IANh2rF7NIM

Part 4 does actually explain how DIO assembled his stand army.

[Neonivek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IANh2rF7NIM

Part 4 does actually explain how DIO assembled his stand army.

Honestly I am not sure there really needed to be an explanation.

I mean... as I said... any living being can develop a stand.

[BFEL]

I dunno, hero mantle IMO goes to the Shinju.

Yeah give it to the thing that's taking bodily functions away from little girls. Does Kyuubey get an award too?

[Furtuka]

Mind you my favorite part of Joe Joe's Adventures is when the villain realizes that every single living being on earth can develop a stand.

So he uses a technique and gets a pack of dogs and chimps to fight for him all with full stand abilities.

And I know what you are all saying "Neonivek that didn't happen!"

And this is where I say: "Yes... But it could have happened."

Well... Ok it has one small little detail... "So he uses a technique and gets a pack of dogs and chimps, all with crazy hair, to fight for him all with full stand abilities"

What the heck are you trying to say here if you know you're making it up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IANh2rF7NIM

Part 4 does actually explain how DIO assembled his stand army.

Honestly I am not sure there really needed to be an explanation.

I mean... as I said... any living being can develop a stand.

Not exactly. You need to have the right type of personality or else getting hit with the stand arrow just kills you.

[Max™]

First time the woman heard Dio using The World she turned the funny "Za Warudo" into the even funnier "Eduardo!" and it is kinda hard to unhear sometimes.