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[IronyOwl]

*Playing Chess*
"You fell for my trap! The chess pieces CAN FEEL FEAR!"
- "The winning pieces get to rape my opponent!"
*LANDSLIDE VICTORY*

At that point I was basically out. I mean, I still watched it all... But y'know. Not seriously...
*shifty eyes*

wat

Welp, it's worked throughout history, no reason it wouldn't work in a game.

Eh?

I don't think they ever really cheated. They interpreted the rules liberally but that's part of what a game is.

The very first game you actually see played out in the show... They outright cheat.

Again, checking how the rules worked.

Blank pretty much can cheat anyway they want and the plot bends over backwards to accommodate it.

"Wait, how did you get out of the contract?"
"Ohh, I cross my fingers behind my back when I accepted it"
"Ok... well that shouldn't have worked... Well I guess that means I owe you some money"
"Yes and now I establish that your soul is money and I want your soul"
"Wait what!?! that makes no sense..."
"Ohh and also you have to do everything I want because services are a form of currency"
"WHAT!?!"
"Ohh and also now your a bunny since your humanity is part of currency"

I don't recall exactly how he won the first one in the manga, but I seem to recall something about claiming he wouldn't throw X and then I knew you'd know I'd know you knew something or other. Don't remember if it involved cheating or not.

Then for the agreed upon price, "room and board and trivial things like that," he cunningly explains that "trivial" is subjective, and therefore includes falling in love with him and doing whatever he says, like letting them grope her and stay in her swanky mansion. Because, you know, if you don't specify something vague you get to interpret it however you want to, and that's totally trivial for a lusty homeless teenager and not a shade out from what Neo listed.

Neonivek's just not down with the soapy lesbo loli sex, don't mind him...

That doesn't exactly happen either. One of the major jokes of the series is that basically the anime wants to be born but doesn't have the gall to actually do so.

Which is kind of the thing... NGNL is 75% porn without the porn.

Spineless pandering is one of my pet peeves. If you wanna do loli incest porn, do loli incest porn. If you wanna not do loli incest porn, do something else.

If you wanna do loli incest porn but like not really, make up your goddamned mind.

The art was pretty nice. Although sometimes it felt like the garish colours were burning my eyes out. Overall, the aesthetic was decent. Unique (although not on the same tier as SHAFT, obviously).

I hated it (manga), but I'll grant that it was different and kinda artsy.

[Neonivek]

In the manga that could have made sense. Afterall room and board for them is huge... but for a rich princess that is basically nothing.

In the anime he uses a "Small favor" to force her to fall inlove with him. Which is
a) Not a favor
b) not small
and then go on to state that they also could have asked her for all her worldly possessions.

[Hawkfrost]

As brought up in this thread before, NGNL is terrible because the writer is trying to write an intelligent main character but isn't actually a smart person.
So instead of having actually legitimately cunning solutions to the games they just bend the rules or cheat, because the writer can't think of a smart way of solving the problem.

This leads into not actually having much content, not a lot of showing the stages of plans or executing them, so they fill time by throwing in pandering fanservice to distract the reader/watcher in a desperate attempt to keep you engaged enough to keep going.  I watched it back when it was first coming out, and dropped it a few episodes in; It's not even mediocre, it's like a 3/10 show at best.

This is not even to mention the previously brought up fact that the original light novel author was caught multiple times tracing art from other series, the whole thing shouts of an untalented hack who is getting undeserved attention.


Short version: Go watch/read Liar Game instead. Though it may not give you the softcore pornography that you want.

The art was pretty nice. Although sometimes it felt like the garish colours were burning my eyes out. Overall, the aesthetic was decent. Unique (although not on the same tier as SHAFT, obviously).

Have you seen Sunday Without God? It has the same garish art style, NGNL isn't even unique.

[ToonyMan]

Short version: Go watch/read Liar Game instead. Though it may not give you the softcore pornography that you want.

Also Kaiji and everything else Fukumoto has written.

[Orange Wizard]

The art was pretty nice. Although sometimes it felt like the garish colours were burning my eyes out. Overall, the aesthetic was decent. Unique (although not on the same tier as SHAFT, obviously).

Have you seen Sunday Without God? It has the same garish art style, NGNL isn't even unique.

Yeah but wasn't that by the same studio? Madhouse, IIRC. Although most of their stuff isn't garish. I had a point here, but I can't remember what it was.

[Reelya]

This is not even to mention the previously brought up fact that the original light novel author was caught multiple times tracing art from other series, the whole thing shouts of an untalented hack who is getting undeserved attention.

The real smoking gun there is that a number of comments mention that the images were by Pixiv artists, and in an "unrelated" incident, Madhouse had to make a public apology because unlicensed art from a Pixiv artist was found in the NGNL show itself. It's almost certainly his fault, yet Madhouse took the blame. After this and then the tracing allegations I doubt they want to work with him again.

[Tack]

Hot damn. Drama everywhere.

[Neonivek]

Dang it Marshmellow anime.

Only 3 minutes (probably more like 1 minute) and I love you as my favorite romance anime.

[Jopax]

This needs to be a thing

[Sirus]

This needs to be a thing

You want a Star Wars anime, huh?

[Reelya]

Some translations really make me cringe, especially when they're common western names that should be straightforward. Goddamn some subbers are dumb.

One example is Kiniro Mosaic, where English girl "Alice Cartalet" was clearly meant by the Japanese author to be Alice Cartwright, but instead of using their ears and brain the subbers grabbed the transliterated Japanese written form, then applied standardized transformations to put that back into "English".

And I'm watching some obscure 1980's OVA right now, and there's a french girl called "Josephine Polly Nyack" in the subs, who is clearly just "Josephine Polniac". She even pronounces it perfectly fine in the audio, the subber was just a retard.

[nullBolt]

Does it really, really irritate anyone else when the subbers use like a pet name instead of -chan and stuff like that? Jesus, it irritates me.

[Reelya]

I think the best rule is to keep them if the characters are in Japan, but remove them if it's set in the West. e.g. in Baccano you shouldn't have carol being called "Carol-chan" in the subs even if it was in the audio. If it's sci-fi / fantasy go with whether the characters have predominantly Japanese or western names.

But, yeah, I agree most attempts to "westernize" the "chan" thing are pretty terrible.

A example I saw recently was the movie of Moretsu Pirates. There's a girl Chiaki, and sometimes she gets called Chiaki-chan and doesn't like it. So the subbers changed Chiaki-chan to "Chiakky". Except there's a problem now, in that Chiaki and Chiakky are pronounced exactly the same, so the joke no longer makes any sense.

[JoshuaFH]

Saying 'chan' and other honorifics in the sub doesn't bother me, if only because there's no easy English equivalent.

[Tack]

There was an anime recently where the subbed turned the -ne, -na from the end of a girl's sentences to be ", I think".

Made it almost unwatchable.