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Author Topic: I like anime, do you like anime?  (Read 3140665 times)

Neonivek

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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #24420 on: September 13, 2015, 05:44:48 pm »

Shouldn't that be the other way around? Bleach got hit with Dragonball Z syndrome?
* Sirus has not actually seen Bleach

Basically this is how it works. In any season of Bleach Ichigo will reach some incredibly broken levels of powers.

Skip to the start of next season where Ichigo suddenly gets depowered inspite having all the same powers and abilities as before. He looks slower, his hits are weaker, and his powers a lot less flashy.

In TVTropes terminology it is "Power Seep, Power Creep"
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BlitzDungeoneer

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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #24421 on: September 13, 2015, 05:46:12 pm »

No, because the Bleach anime has been out on hiatus a while back IIRC(if not cancelled completely), while Dragon Ball has had a new anime come out recently, namely Dragon Ball Super.

That's all I can tell you though.
Edit: Goddamn ninjas.
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #24422 on: September 13, 2015, 05:47:24 pm »

Probably. DB was quality, and DBZ just had the typical continual escalation of shonen power levels. Bleach is notorious specifically for the protagonist secretly being a minmaxed D&D character crossbreed of half-everything.

e: Ninjas. Still maintain what I said, though: that's just typical shonen writing, Ichigo was a special shade of Sue even by shonen standards.

I've put together a new short list of stuff I'm going to try to watch/rewatch in the coming months. Already started on Steins;Gate and I'm having a lot of fun with it. Probably going to watch Shinsekai yori next; I've heard a lot of good about it.
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #24423 on: September 13, 2015, 05:49:16 pm »

It is just the switch to DBZ and DBSuper that had Bleach Syndrome.

Goku gets seriously depowered in spite having all the same abilities.
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #24424 on: September 13, 2015, 08:57:49 pm »

I dunno, theres like 6 super sayan levels now with all the movies, its more like "Can we make this guy even more OP? Yes we can!"

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« Reply #24425 on: September 13, 2015, 11:01:06 pm »

I dunno, theres like 6 super sayan levels now with all the movies, its more like "Can we make this guy even more OP? Yes we can!"

By talking alone. Visually, they are less impressive then SS1 Goku was.
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #24426 on: September 14, 2015, 03:20:47 am »

So I tried to read No Game No Life, and wandered into something infinitely better: T-Rex na Kanojo, a silly dumb cute 4komaish thing about a T-Rex girl and a human. Good thing to poke with a stick to see if you like it.

Tragically, I did eventually find my way to No Game No Life and holy fucking shit. I knew it was going to be dumb. I even knew there was a good chance it would make me angry! But I was not prepared to hate every single thing about it. It's frankly kind of amazing that even the art style manages to be cluttered and abstract enough to piss me off. It has absolutely zero redeeming features as far as I can tell, outside of I guess the decently drawn fanservice if you're into NGNL's particular tastes.

And to be perfectly fair, I did only read up until the part where the siblings begin openly lusting for each other and the guy starts groping the chick he made fall in love with him via nebulous wording and flagrantly lying about what the word "trivial" means in a game of rock-paper-scissors. So maybe a bunch of really really cool stuff happens after that part! Yet somehow I don't think terribly many people are going to hold the above phrase against me as a reason for not reading further.

Dungeon is dumb, but it's readable and I'm still prodding my way through it now and then. NGNL makes me want to vomit, and then stare at the ceiling in confusion wondering how it got an anime. It's like it went out of its way to avoid having even the slightest interesting or justified of explanations for any of its conceits, and I can only assume its popularity and my rage are connected in the same manner as with deviant pornography- whatever's pushing my buttons is exactly what scratches other people's itches, magnifying its fame through hate and creating two groups of people with a great deal of difficulty understanding each other.

I mean, really, what other explanation is there?
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« Reply #24427 on: September 14, 2015, 03:41:07 am »

While I can only stomach about five episodes, I'm partly convinced that while Shiba from Mahouka is an awful protagonist, but he'd be a GREAT antagonist. It'd be a much better if the story were following some schmuck who had to somehow overcome Shiba the extra super perfect man that can do no wrong and everyone loves.
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« Reply #24428 on: September 14, 2015, 04:27:37 am »

That's exactly what I thought. Guy who can never lose is usually the villain not the guy who we're supposed to feel sympathy for because nobody understands his true greatness. I still think you should try for episode 7 though, so you can see his powers in action.

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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #24429 on: September 14, 2015, 09:56:03 am »

So I tried to read No Game No Life, and wandered into something infinitely better: T-Rex na Kanojo, a silly dumb cute 4komaish thing about a T-Rex girl and a human. Good thing to poke with a stick to see if you like it.

Tragically, I did eventually find my way to No Game No Life and holy fucking shit. I knew it was going to be dumb. I even knew there was a good chance it would make me angry! But I was not prepared to hate every single thing about it. It's frankly kind of amazing that even the art style manages to be cluttered and abstract enough to piss me off. It has absolutely zero redeeming features as far as I can tell, outside of I guess the decently drawn fanservice if you're into NGNL's particular tastes.

And to be perfectly fair, I did only read up until the part where the siblings begin openly lusting for each other and the guy starts groping the chick he made fall in love with him via nebulous wording and flagrantly lying about what the word "trivial" means in a game of rock-paper-scissors. So maybe a bunch of really really cool stuff happens after that part! Yet somehow I don't think terribly many people are going to hold the above phrase against me as a reason for not reading further.

Dungeon is dumb, but it's readable and I'm still prodding my way through it now and then. NGNL makes me want to vomit, and then stare at the ceiling in confusion wondering how it got an anime. It's like it went out of its way to avoid having even the slightest interesting or justified of explanations for any of its conceits, and I can only assume its popularity and my rage are connected in the same manner as with deviant pornography- whatever's pushing my buttons is exactly what scratches other people's itches, magnifying its fame through hate and creating two groups of people with a great deal of difficulty understanding each other.

I mean, really, what other explanation is there?
I have no idea.
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #24430 on: September 14, 2015, 10:05:51 am »

I mean, really, what other explanation is there?

Idk, NGNL was from a novel. Maybe the novel comes across better than the manga? The novels are the source of any fanbase, not the manga.

Though I still think NGNL sucks, the writer has a better grasp of basic entertainment than the Mahouka guy does. But that's like saying dogshit smells better than catshit, really.

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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #24431 on: September 14, 2015, 12:54:56 pm »

So I tried to read No Game No Life, and wandered into something infinitely better: T-Rex na Kanojo, a silly dumb cute 4komaish thing about a T-Rex girl and a human. Good thing to poke with a stick to see if you like it.
Okay this? This made my day. It's absolutely hilarious to read. :P
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« Reply #24432 on: September 14, 2015, 04:27:01 pm »

Huh... I just noticed something

I am several episodes into Jitsu Wa Watashi Wa... And none of the love interests has violently beat up and assaulted our protagonist for a minor slight that is usually stems from the fact that the female character in question has low self-esteem and is taking it out on him.

Yay!

Heck the only time our main character was actually struck... Not only was it just a cover up... but even if it wasn't the thing he did would have entirely justified the blow he got (Given it is kind of... Prison material)
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #24433 on: September 14, 2015, 04:28:48 pm »

I really hate that kind of thing in anime. It gets on my nerves.

It's also why I ship Onodera with the protagonist whose name I forget in Nisekoi. She's the only one of the harem that has not assaulted the protagonist.
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« Reply #24434 on: September 14, 2015, 04:50:49 pm »

Which makes me wonder about some articles by feminists that claim anime girls are all submissive because otaku are misogynists who can't tolerate the concept of any woman who's not a complete doormat, so anime serves as a fantasy escape from the assertive women of real life (I'm paraphrasing some real articles here).

The only problem with that is explaining why the violent girl almost always seems to be the designated love interest. Surely, if male otaku, as a rule, had such a problem with depictions of assertive women, then anime would have many less main love interests who are so assertive, and the timid girl would have an edge. But that really doesn't happen.

I can only guess that the people who write these sorts of BS articles aren't actually sitting down and watching a lot of the shows, or they're cherry picking what they cite: e.g. they often mention Rei from NGE as an example of a submissive fantasy girl, without trying to resolve that theory with why, if that's the case, Shinji lives with two loud and assertive women, and not Rei?
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