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[IronyOwl]

just watched the  first two and a half episodes of blassreiter. I havent watched a show with such stupid characters in a long time. Every single interaction was pathetically shallow and lacked any basic semblence of logic. It was like they wanted me to like the dude with the red hair because he kept making these surprised exasperated gestures, similar to mine, as a reaction to the other characters idiocy, except then he was being stupid in the same way moments later. I cant even name a good example because of how constant it was.

Which is funny, because i noticed the show on the MAL page of aldnoah zero, a show where they've made sure all characters (and writers) have a functional brain. Sure people get tricked and aren't brilliant but at least they act like people. So far that show has been awesome, by the way.

Oh man, there was this one show... Ghost Detective, maybe? I had the misfortune of seeing one episode of the most incompetent ghost hunters ever.

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And by one episode, obviously I mean four. It was one of those cliche situations where I guessed the real thing halfway through the first episode, and then they just kept. Dragging. On.

Add to that the cliche thing where, of the half dozen experienced, professional ghost hunters, only the newb girl with no established powers and the cool main hero with mysterious powers are not taking the role of incompetent "Well it's GOT to be the most obvious suspect!" police. Which they then justify with concerns about their safety. Yes, professional paranormal specialists are standing around saying "Well it's got to be this. After all, we're in danger here!"

Four episodes of:

Motley Crew Of Priests/Monks/Mikos: It's her.
Noob: NO! I BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP!
Motley Crew Of Priests/Monks/Mikos: Well sure, and besides it doesn't make sense that she'd be that powerful. But what else could it be? We're in danger here! That other chick fell down some stairs! It's not like we're professionals who can afford to let a high school girl with halfassed psychic powers take potshots at us! We've gotta assume it's her and then... uh... well, we don't really arrest or kill people or anything, so... ask her to stop really forcefully, I guess.
Noob: B-b-but friendship... *whimpers*
Main Guy: I am cool enough to believe you but not cool enough to do anything with this information until the final episode.

Just what.

A competing male needs to be invested in the other female characters to the extent where he can shift focus away from the protagonist.

Given that the female characters are "One at a time" as in none of the female characters exist while there is another one on screen does negate both my definitions of harem.

This definition sounds like it'd catch a lot of main characters in general, provided they are male and some of their interactees are female.

Sweet, I finished PMMM. That was...a much more positive ending than I anticipated. Not exactly happy, but not the "everyone dies, GG" I half-expected.

Spoiler: PMMM Gripes (click to show/hide)

I found PMMM to be more "neat" or "interesting" than "good," which was... alright, but I kind of wish they'd tried to make an actual series of it rather than a collection of ideas.

[Neonivek]

This definition sounds like it'd catch a lot of main characters in general, provided they are male and some of their interactees are female.

It is meant to negate the sort of hanger on male character who isn't really involved with the harem aspects of the anime.

For example Suzimiah (err... the one where one of the main characters is a god, one is an alien, and one is a time traveler) where the Esper character REALLY isn't emotionally invested in any of the other characters... Nor is he really the solution to any of the harem's problems.

MIND YOU... you could interpret him as male member of the harem... That is a perfectly legit way to look at that.

Afterall Baka No Test actually managed to have a male member of a harem (that wasn't a all male harem)... and as I said he was strange because while he is sort of a joke, he manages to be a lot more tolerable romance wise then the other two female harem members.

Mind you Baka No Test was a direct Harem (or rather a Romantic Harem) rather then a structural Harem.

[Reelya]

I survived exactly one episode of Baka to Test, that was more than enough. There wasn't anything in that show that looks at all interesting.

[Sirus]

Sweet, I finished PMMM. That was...a much more positive ending than I anticipated. Not exactly happy, but not the "everyone dies, GG" I half-expected.

Spoiler: PMMM Gripes (click to show/hide)

I found PMMM to be more "neat" or "interesting" than "good," which was... alright, but I kind of wish they'd tried to make an actual series of it rather than a collection of ideas.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

But if had turned into a series it probably would have gone downhill fast.

On the bright side, I know of a pen-and-paper RPG system that can emulate PMMM and grimdark magical girls in general.

[Leafsnail]

Haruhi does obviously follow the harem format, it even has meta-humour to that effect.

Hm, Gargantia wasn't bad, beach episode and belly dancing episode aside. They were really relentless with the fanservice in the middle there, but otherwise it was a decent enough show. No surprises, but competently put together and -

>Written By: Gen Urobuchi

goddamn it it happened again

This is really weird because Urobuchi has only written like 6 series.

[Leafsnail]

(Yeah I am pretty joyless)

[Bauglir]

This is really weird because Urobuchi has only written like 6 series.

Yeah, I know, it's not as though he's so ubiquitous that it's impossible to avoid him. I just keep rolling Urobuchi on the RNG. Although I'm also counting stuff that he's been less directly involved with, such as Black Lagoon (which he wrote LNs for, though I've only seen the show).

[Reelya]

For directors sometimes it feels like Shinbou Akiyuki made everything.

[IronyOwl]

Sweet, I finished PMMM. That was...a much more positive ending than I anticipated. Not exactly happy, but not the "everyone dies, GG" I half-expected.

Spoiler: PMMM Gripes (click to show/hide)

I found PMMM to be more "neat" or "interesting" than "good," which was... alright, but I kind of wish they'd tried to make an actual series of it rather than a collection of ideas.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

But if had turned into a series it probably would have gone downhill fast.

On the bright side, I know of a pen-and-paper RPG system that can emulate PMMM and grimdark magical girls in general.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Probably, but it feels like they had a lot of potential that didn't involve or require making things artsy or unexpected or weird or subverted or whatever. I have to believe there was some room between This Is Art and Stereotypical Magical Girls But They All Die.

For the latter, are you talking about Magical Burst? I seem to recall being underwhelmed by it, but I don't remember it well.

[Sirus]

Sweet, I finished PMMM. That was...a much more positive ending than I anticipated. Not exactly happy, but not the "everyone dies, GG" I half-expected.

Spoiler: PMMM Gripes (click to show/hide)

I found PMMM to be more "neat" or "interesting" than "good," which was... alright, but I kind of wish they'd tried to make an actual series of it rather than a collection of ideas.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

But if had turned into a series it probably would have gone downhill fast.

On the bright side, I know of a pen-and-paper RPG system that can emulate PMMM and grimdark magical girls in general.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Probably, but it feels like they had a lot of potential that didn't involve or require making things artsy or unexpected or weird or subverted or whatever. I have to believe there was some room between This Is Art and Stereotypical Magical Girls But They All Die.

For the latter, are you talking about Magical Burst? I seem to recall being underwhelmed by it, but I don't remember it well.

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Maybe. Personally I'm fine with what we got; the writer/director/whoever wanted to tell a story and the story was told. Kept it short, explained (most) things fairly well, ended with a combination Hope Spot/Sequel Bait.

And yes, I'm talking about Magical Burst. It's definitely still a work in progress, 4th edition was released in July or so. Might want to check it out again, see if it strikes your interest.

[Bauglir]

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Hope Spot

Just curious - did you watch the bit after the credits of the last episode?

[Sirus]

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Hope Spot

Just curious - did you watch the bit after the credits of the last episode?

Yes, after I posted that >.>

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Things might not be entirely doomed though. I mean, wasn't that Madoka's voice speaking to Homura? When the local ultimate-witch-slaying Goddess is on your side, there's got to be some hope left, right?

...


....right?

[Bauglir]

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Now you know why I'm so mad about Rebellion not being easily available Stateside.

[Tellemurius]

Saw rebellion at theaters and my buddy got his hands on the bluray set already.

[TamerVirus]

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Hope Spot

Just curious - did you watch the bit after the credits of the last episode?

Yes, after I posted that >.>

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Things might not be entirely doomed though. I mean, wasn't that Madoka's voice speaking to Homura? When the local ultimate-witch-slaying Goddess is on your side, there's got to be some hope left, right?

...


....right?

GO WATCH THE THIRD MOVIE ALREADY.

YOU HAVENT FINISHED THE STORY