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[Okenido]

In my opinion Xiolin Showdown is cartoon.

While the plot is somewhat deeper than most cartoon, one can easily go watch it from the middle due to the exchange rate of the artifacts is fast enough that it hardly matters, which side has what. Also the only episodes that were important to watch plot wise were the climaxes, and where the characters received promotions.

I believe that anime being just an art style is the misconception.

Of course this argument can be easily related to debating about what a RPG is.

[Gunner-Chan]

I believe that anime being just an art style is the misconception.

It is a misconception, the term "Anime" honestly means the show in question came from japan, that is the definition of the term now and always will be. Just because the show is episodic or is watchable at any point doesn't have any bearing on what the show is, it's just different writing styles to appeal to different demographics.

Although "Anime" is also a drawing and animating style now, given some western cartoons are borrowing it these days.

[Reasonableman]

I am not engaging in this debate, I am being petty and semantic and generally a derailing douchebag, so feel free to ignore me as you please:

Of course this argument can be easily related to debating about what a RPG is.

Would you say 'a RPG' because the 'R' stands for 'Role,' making it 'a Role-Playing Game' or would you say 'an RPG' because the 'R' is pronounced 'Arr' making it 'an Arr Pee Gee' ?

Derailment ensue.

[Micro102]

No it wouldn't.  It is entirely possible for anime to look bad.  It's not like anime is some magical style that is automatically better than all others. 

well if you TRY to make it look bad then yeh, it can look worse then a cartoon. but on average, anime looks better as it has more details and smoother lines...made by the poor artists who are locked in their studios until it is fininshed lol

i think anime means the artstyle that came from japan. and that its not anime when you have american cartoon drawers try to draw anime. but someone doesnt have to make an anime in japan for it to be an anime

to me cartoons are simple, not a lot of detail, only self shadowing when exaggerating something. put a picture of a powerpuff girl next to a picture of someone from seto no hanayome and you will see the difference

plz dont derail the thread into cartoon MMOs

[Okenido]

well if you TRY to make it look bad then yeh, it can look worse then a cartoon. but on average, anime looks better as it has more details and smoother lines...made by the poor artists who are locked in their studios until it is fininshed lol

i think anime means the artstyle that came from japan. and that its not anime when you have american cartoon drawers try to draw anime. but someone doesnt have to make an anime in japan for it to be an anime

to me cartoons are simple, not a lot of detail, only self shadowing when exaggerating something. put a picture of a powerpuff girl next to a picture of someone from seto no hanayome and you will see the difference

plz dont derail the thread into cartoon MMOs

I can instantly prove you wrong. http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=25653 (I apologize for using this website...)

Among other things I've watched the first few episodes of Paranoia Agent. The plot writing so far is excellent.

[LegoLord]

I can instantly prove you wrong. http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=25653 (I apologize for using this website...)

My goodness, those are awful.  I nearly burst out laughing.

[Hawkfrost]

Naruto is horrible anyways.

And let's not turn this into a flame war, aye?

[LegoLord]

Naruto is horrible anyways.

And let's not turn this into a flame war, aye?

Agreed on both counts.

[Micro102]

ehh, some were from scenes that required rapid movment, so those strange poses when flip booked are actually real looking and cool (only thing keeping me watching naruto). the others i did see any problems, tried to enlarge them but it would never load. except for saskues neck, definatly a flaw, yet strangly i didnt mind. still even with those flaws its out of over 100's of episodes many of which are rush job fillers.

and now that i think about it...what do these flaws have anything to do with the actual drawing style? the normal parts of the anime are still better then cartoons

[Okenido]

I'm pretty sure you didn't see the missing head one.

[Kobold Justice]

Yeah I like anime.  From what I've seen I like it better than most other stuff released in cartoon format, though that's not to say anime doesn't have it's fair share of stupid crap.

Staples like Cowboy Bebop, NGE, Ghibli and Akira are fine by me.  But when it comes to the everyday stuff, I prefer something more like Welcome to the NHK! or Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei to regular shonen series.

[Neonivek]

though that's not to say anime doesn't have it's fair share of stupid crap

It is really the same with all mediums isn't it?

The Number of bad games, movies, cartoons, live-actions, reality shows (if not all) are astounding.

[Kobold Justice]

though that's not to say anime doesn't have it's fair share of stupid crap

It is really the same with all mediums isn't it?

The Number of bad games, movies, cartoons, live-actions, reality shows (if not all) are astounding.

Indeed.  It's pretty much always been that way, too.  I might be getting a bit tangential here, but the main reason people think their favorite mediums are getting "worse" is because the bad music/movies/whatever of years past is forgotten, while the good is not.  In 5 years, I doubt many people will remember the "bad" anime folks whine about today, and reminisce about how awesome it must have been in the twenty-aughts.

[Okenido]

Well I'm pretty sure we all know that Superman 64 was horrible.

[LegoLord]

Yeah I like anime.  From what I've seen I like it better than most other stuff released in cartoon format, though that's not to say anime doesn't have it's fair share of stupid crap.

Yeah.  That's because most new stuff is anime style out of its (anime's) popularity.  There was a French cartoon done in anime style.  Code Lyoko, I think.  It was horrible.

Megas XLR was a good show though.  It was drawn anime style.  But I think it was an American show, seeing as how the main character was from New Jersey.  Really, it's the core of the show; the plot (which can go on an episode by episode basis), the characters, etc., that make it good, not the drawing style (or even quality).

I miss those older cartoons.  They just don't seem to make them like they used too.