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[Patchouli]

Do they specifically not practice? or is it possible it is happening off screen?

They do practice off screen, but it's sort of like what Reelya said, with the expectations being different from what you actually get.

Yui supposedly practices an asston outside of class, but it doesn't feel like it's actually happening since it's just an occasional mention here and there, maybe a 30 shot of Yui holding her guitar at home.

Mugi played classical piano before, because oujo. I think she might actually be the one that makes the songs.

Mio and Ritsu have been playing drums and bass for a bit of time already. Mio likes dangerously cheesy lyrics, and Ritsu is the perfect representation of an amateur musician that likes the idea of rocking out on a huge stage, but doesn't put in all the effort required into it, and is totally satisfied in jamming with her ladyfriends. She also gets a stint of getting sick of drums and wanting to learn other instruments, likes The Who, and is the best character in the show (in season 2, at least).

Season 1 covered almost 2 years, that's plenty of time to pick up the basics, and she's not like Jimi Hendrix even then. So given the stated time-lapse it's not that unbelievable.

and, yes it's stated that they're lazy - as a band - they goof off and don't practice anywhere near as much as they should - but the girl who picked up guitar in season one, also states she plays a bit at home every day.

But overall, they're a SHITTY band, much shittier than the tapes of the previous light music club's band that they listen to. So there's no Mary Sue effect, it's stated that they're lazy, and all their songs actually suck.

Yeah, when Azusa came, she was delegated to rhythm guitarist, but picking up stuff like palm muting instantly was like "dude". It's part of her character and all, being a complete idiot except when it comes to the guitar, but it does seem a bit unrealistic. Well, unrealistic might not be the right word, probably something closer to unrelatable is a better choice.

I don't think their songs suck that much either, some of the basslines are really fun. When it comes to the show though, I think I remember something where the real musicians playing the parts would toss in a few mistakes here and there, or change the sound a bit to give it amateur vibes.

[Reelya]

I play the guitar, and i recall it didn't take me long to pick up palm muting from my pal either, so i'm not sure that's so unrelatable. sometimes you just "get" something pretty quickly and sometimes you struggle with it. I think palm muting is a pretty basic technique.

@Neonevik: when you say Kyon, you're thinking of the concert scene in Haruhi?

[Patchouli]

I play the guitar, and i recall it didn't take me long to pick up palm muting from my pal either, so i'm not sure that's so unrelatable. sometimes you just "get" something pretty quickly and sometimes you struggle with it. I think palm muting is a pretty basic technique.

That's true. But she picked it up instantly, without having any knowledge of it before.

She also has perfect pitch and stuff. She's basically a super musician but a very silly person.

[Reelya]

"Absolute pitch is considerably more common among those whose early childhood was spent in East Asia. This might seem to be a genetic difference but people of East Asian ancestry who are reared in North America are significantly less likely to develop absolute pitch than those raised in East Asia, so the difference is more probably explained by experience. The language that is spoken may be an important factor; many East Asians speak tonal languages such as Mandarin and Cantonese, while others (such as those in Japan and certain provinces of Korea) speak pitch-accent languages, and the prevalence of absolute pitch may be partly explained by exposure to pitches together with meaningful musical labels very early in life."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_pitch

Well, there's an unrelated article saying East Asians often have that ability, probably due to tonal qualities of their languages. And her rate of actually learning the guitar isn't that far out given the (averaged) 2 months per episodes in season 1.

I was playing bass in my first band within weeks of first picking the thing up, and we were playing gigs for our friends within days of first getting together, so it really doesn't take all that long to get something basic down.

And i was shown palm muting for guitar by my friend and was doing it myself within minutes, within about 1 year of first picking up BOTH bass and guitar (this was in my first band, which was together for 1 year exactly), that's LESS time in my life than the time between Yui picking up guitar and her meet Azusa.

[Patchouli]

Oh, that's neat. Nodame had perfect pitch too, and I feel like there's other anime characters with it, so maybe that explains why it pops up frequently.

I guess I'm in the Ritsu boat of lazy musicians, so it seems like her learning rate is crazy. It took me at least a whole day to get palm muting to not sound terrible, and I could only do them well on the downstrokes.

[Neonivek]

@Neonevik: when you say Kyon, you're thinking of the concert scene in Haruhi?

Actually no.

I am thinking of the lazy do nothing plot and characters. (sorta)

Also yeah Haruhi.

[ToonyMan]

I can confirm events actually happened in Haruhi in this funny thing called "story arcs".  The newest three books is probably the longest one yet.

[Kobold Troubadour]

I don't know why...but I find it amusing to find out Kyon is in Muv-Luv & helping out in the fight against BETA.

What where did you get this.  There was no Kyon in what I saw.

Oh right..."He's" in ML Total Eclipse.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=910
It's a serious role and is just a side character sure...but it was after I finished Daily Lives of High School Boys (Like Nichijou, for me the show was mostly a hit & miss but I enjoyed most his character's segments there) that when he speaks, he stands out to me (Kill BETA with Sarcasm Kyon!).

Speaking of slice of life, I loved Hyouka. I will miss Eru's curiosity and I like that the "mysteries" were stuff not involving murder, blackmail, evil organizations & such.

[Neonivek]

I can confirm events actually happened in Haruhi in this funny thing called "story arcs".  The newest three books is probably the longest one yet.

I know, hense why I said "Sorta"

[ToonyMan]

I really should just watch Total Eclipse at this point.  It's also a VN but it's untranslated and playing MLA Chronicles 01 isn't going too hot when I only know 30% of what's happening.

EDIT:
Oh wait I need to finish Full Metal Panic.

[FearfulJesuit]

Is it also common among children from Sub-Saharan Africa? Most Bantu languages are tonal.

[Reelya]

It's hard to say, i have only seen the East Asia reference. Perhaps that's due to the prevalence of recording industries in East Asia, and the lack of such industries in Sub-Saharan Africa, so it's not really as well documented.

[ToonyMan]

I 100% finished G-senjou no Maou.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Continuing Chapter 5/Usami Chapter-


DIE HARD
(the only movie that ever gets referenced in any VN)


ALL HAIL BRITANNIA (I'm sorry I have to make these jokes after learning Kyouhei has Lelouch's VA.)


Kyousuke has eyes!!!

I feel like Hashimoto's constant appearances were pretty...odd.  Same for Iwai.  Frankly this final arc was surreal.


IT KEEPS HAPPENING


And now for my favorite scene in the entire game:



MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOU

I was thinking 'Maou' wouldn't blow himself up like that that's so stupid what the fuck

but then

AHAHA

I AM THE MAOU

I POSSESS ALL THE VIOLINS

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

(Yeah I actually teared up at Maou's slyness even if it was all extremely silly)



LET ME PLAY THE VIOLIN UWAAAAAAAAAAAH



credit roll

My thoughts at this point:

"Wow so Maou just up and dies?  That's so stupid argh this game.  Oh hey an Epilogue sequence this looks borin--"



MAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOUU





But then he died so it didn't matter, ohohoho screw this game playing with my emotions




Kyousuke gets arrested, the end.

His mother dies for no reason off screen, his father dies for no reason off screen, he kills his brother for no reason and god dammit Maou I didn't even get to hear Usami play her evil violin.


Being in jail is hard

Let's talk to my heroines in order, yep.


No Maou?  ;_;



This is just for keepsies.  Gotta collect the title screen changes.


Anyway, as for Chapter 5 and the Epilogue itself...sigh I don't know.  It was all over the place.  Some scenes were awesome (and even that varied between oh shit yes and what the fuck am I reading) well the rest was like...what are we even doing here.  I am very disappointed Saijou didn't show up after so much Hashimoto but at least 'Maou' managed to steal my heart.  It was a pretty fun read for the most part but I was in no way moved at all and couldn't help but behave like a...sports fan I guess?  Shouting on the sidelines for something really stupid to happen, and there was no shortage of that.  Quite a lot of CGs were there as well.

During the credit scroll I was pretty discontent and the Epilogue opening had me hoping I was trolled which was true in a sense because when I got the Fin card I was still discontent after a short reprieve.

The writing was way better than Sharin no Kuni I feel...I mean it still wasn't amazing or anything but I found the back stories to generally at least be something even if a lot of elements introduces felt very very underplayed which of course leads to disappointment.

'Maou' was my favorite character, as you'll find out in the end of this post I didn't even know he was voiced by Lelouch until I finished (I watched the dub anyway sue me) but that's still hella awesome.  Know why?  The main antagonist in Sharin no Kuni is basically Housuke and his VA is Lelouch's Dad.  Talk about...strange connections.  Akabesoft like their villains being from Code Geass.

Another large compliant is that G-senjou no Maou follows the Akabesoft character molds almost to a tee.  It does development differently but having the "snarky dick MC, eccentric male virgin friend, three heroine girls, main heroine girl, and big bad antagonist (although Gonzou later turns out to be faux with 'Maou' being the true one really).  So in the end you get a very small character cast and even a lot with sprites don't even matter which in the end leaves like three or four fucking characters that do anything.  And out of them only one is actually likable enough to like.  I can't care for Akabesoft MCs...

That's about it.  I mean, I could talk about what happens but it is what it is.  Maou's history was interesting (that letter by his Dad at the beginning of Chapter 5 was quite good too).  A lot of elements they introduced I feel they handled really poorly.  I didn't like very many characters.  The music was good.  I liked all the NVL scenes and it was certainly better than Sharin even if the big twist was quite clear which was probably part of the point.  Nothing made any sense.

6/10 (Decent)

Non-spoiler thoughts:
That was okay.  Decent.  The heroine chapters were very weak (especially Kanon's) but the finale was pretty much what I wanted and didn't want which I expected really.  The music was pretty great, and sometimes the writing stood out.  It's better than Sharin no Kuni in almost every way (except it doesn't have Isono or Housuke).  I actually downgraded my 6/10 vote of Sharin to a 5/10 so that a 6 would fit Maou better.  Because honestly, I have a hard time pushing a 7 when there was just so many laughably bad sections even if you take the heroine chapters out.

Skip the optional parts for the best experience I would say...not that anybody cares...

Also, apparently 'Maou' had Jun Fukuyama as a VA or better known as...Lelouch from Code Geass.  I only learned that after finishing the game...that's...wow.  Still a 6/10...but I will feel worse about it.

That's my night.  Time to start volume 11 of DKaiji and zzzzzzzDangan Ronpa is awesomezzzzzzzz

[IronyOwl]

Hah, started reading Tower of God in earnest. I like it; it's got that nice mix of knowing and not knowing what the hell is going on to remain interesting.

Spoiler: Very Minor (click to show/hide)

Plus, I really like when the alligator refers to people as turtles.

[ToonyMan]

Hah, started reading Tower of God in earnest. I like it; it's got that nice mix of knowing and not knowing what the hell is going on to remain interesting.

Spoiler: Very Minor (click to show/hide)

Plus, I really like when the alligator refers to people as turtles.

Yessss I liked all of Season 1.  I'm on Chapter 11 of Season 2 and I'm not feeling it as much but it's gotta get better.

Some males look ridiculously female though.