I know but it still helps that those are the "Exceptions" rather then the examples that break the rules.
That's something you have to actually demonstrate. You can't just say "Yes but those are exceptions not rules" and act like you've made your point.
Though I am impressed people didn't start posting animes that focus on female characters or had a female lead. Like Nagima 1000, Sailormoon, or Digikarat.
Well, you did list those as explicit exceptions.
I call it the anime Women default rather then the Anime universal rule on women.
You still don't explain it, though. Admitting there's exceptions isn't the same as explaining why they're exceptions to an otherwise solid rule.
You mean Chichi the woman who was on par or even stronger then Goku who was put down soo badly she became useless? Or Android 17 who was also thrown into the pile of incompetents before even the Cell Saga was complete?
Sorry but Dragonball is the example I use to prove the point.
I have no idea what you're talking about. Manga Chichi blew up a dinosaur, got gently curbstomped by Yamcha, grew up, and then got gently curbstomped by Goku; perhaps anime Chichi was different?
More importantly, everyone except Goku and sometimes Gohan sucked. Trying to use Chichi or 17's uselessness as an example of women being useless in general is about as relevant as trying to use some Hellsing mook as an example about people wearing brown hats dying a lot.
It isn't about a woman being strong. Anyone in an anime can be strong. It is about whether or not they remain competent within the crux of the anime itself. My biggest complaint about anime and women isn't the lack of competent women altogether, it is that the sheer number of times they will introduce a strong competent woman who is thrown under the males is what bugs me.
There is either no competent women or women do not remain competent that is the anime woman default.
I was actually about to ask about your definition of "sucking." It sounds like you're saying it means "not relevantly competent," which would be fine except you're also trying to claim that "main character" includes
all main characters, meaning your argument applies solely to side characters.
Is this correct?
Also, with regards to being competent at first and then sucking, are you changing your story completely or just trying to shift focus to your particular area of interest?
Also Just to prove how terrible it was. I remember how Goku beat Chichi. Since he couldn't hit her without hurting her... He punched the air to create a breeze to throw her out of the ring softly. Mind you it is supposed to be justified since Goku went through much greater training then Chichi did.
Just to prove my point, name three other characters that had
not gone from "very strong" to "useless mooks" by that point.