I mean, come on, unless you're really incapable viewer, you're going to get familiar with the tropes, and story structure of the media & genre you're watching.
I doubt even you predict every last thing that could possibly be considered a spoiler in every media you consume. "Tropes exist, therefore spoilers do not" is a non sequitur.
There are no Spoilers.
Get over yourself.
And just enjoy what you're watching.
I'm going to have to agree that this sounds pretentious as all hell. Telling someone that they're completely and utterly wrong about whether certain things affect how much they enjoy certain things is about as arrogant and condescending as you can get.
If the the Climax for a given event is what only drives when you're consuming media, then sure, it's pretty delicate. But even for show that do have foreshadowing, and wanting the viewer to guess what's going to happen.
Then so what?
Any media is more then about its payout's at the end. The pay outs are very small part of the story overall.
The journey getting to these payouts are the much larger part of the story, and that were most of the story is. That is where most of your enjoyment, and investment lies within.
Its traveling with the story, is where you're going to grow attach to the characters, grow attach to the universe and grow attach to the story.
If your story can't keep you engage with it's journey then the media you're consuming is horribly written.
This part is kinda weird. You seem to be saying that enjoying something is about enjoying watching the characters do things you already knew they'd do, rather than any kind of overarching plot, tension, mystery, etc. Which is fine if that's what you're into, but I'm not sure how you could derive this as some kind of universal truth.
And shows with foreshadowing are immensely better when rewatching, when you know what's going to happen. You're going to notice so much more out of the story. You're going to get all these small surprises as you watch it, /because/ you know what's going to happen.
Not only that, but knowing what's going to happen can and will reshape how you see characters.
Second part sounds like a reaffirmation that spoilers indeed exist. Not necessarily in a negative way, but you're certainly acknowledging they're there.
First part probably isn't true. If it was, you would expect people to be more prone to rewatching any show with any kind of mystery/suspense/non-obvious plot elements than they were to watching it the first time, and AFAIK watching said things once but not twice isn't terribly uncommon. You'd also expect them to actively seek out spoilers or guides so they could enjoy it better, which I'm almost positive never happens.
In other words, unless you want to call everyone but you an imbecile who doesn't know what they enjoy more clearly, I'm not sure how you could argue this. Come to think of it, are either of those true for yourself?
FLCL, is one of my favorite Anime's of all time. I fucking love and adore the shit out of FLCL. And it's filled with foreshadowing and minutia of detail in each episode. I've rewatch that series well over a score, and I still find something new that I didn't notice before. And it was completely ruined for me, if you wanna indulge in the infantile thing of 'Spoilers'.
Totally knew what Atomsk, the big fight, the relationships, what the robot sorta mean, how it's a coming of age story. All that jazz. I watched it sorta over the shoulder as my other friend saw it, and I watch it on my own year's later. And there also Trigun. My first episode, was it's last.
Take, Snape from Harry Potter. After Book Seven/Movie 8, you now have a completely different character then what you get from going through book 1-6. What about Dumbledore? You see Dumbledore in a very different light at the end of the series.
And none of that get's ruined because you get 'spoiled'. Getting told that Snake is really the good guy, doesn't ruin anything. Because /you/ still get to read it, and you still get to have your own take on it. You still get to have your own experience with it.
Personal anecdotes are really not very convincing, unless you can explain how you're representative of everyone. Notice how you switch between "
I watched Trigun's last episode first, but still greatly enjoyed it" and "
You don't get less enjoyment because it's spoiled."
As for the latter part, you seem to be arguing that either all experiences are equal or that you can simply shut off spoilers to have your own pristine experience with something. I don't actually think you're arguing the second, but the first is patently false: Watching a thug mug an old lady for her bus money is completely different to watching a scientist fake a mugging to pocket a spy's instructions, and knowing one is actually the other doesn't magically make it identical.
For my personal taste, I prefer media that's serial, over episodic. I also prefer media that has continuity and consequences from previous installments. I prefer media that has a beginning middle and end. My current big series is Young Justice. (My other two right now happen to episodic. Archer and Bob's Burger. Archer though has a continuity between episodes that I enjoy.)
That's... kind of surprising, given that you've been going on and on about how payoffs and reveals don't matter. I wouldn't have expected someone who doesn't care about what happens next and considers it a negligible part of the enjoyment total to value those things being connected.
Then how about this for rephrasing the "spoilers":
A story based on the premise of a battle royal where only one servant/master team is supposed to survive has at least one servant die. This death is portrayed onscreen and makes for an interesting scene.
You mentioned the specific name, though; that's totally different.
I'd also consider the other two (and the rest of the middle one) to be minor spoilers because they create anticipation- you've now got it in your head that the Berserker fight is more awesome than the other ones, for instance, so now instead of watching it completely normally you've got a voice in the back of your head going "Is this the awesome one I heard about?" or "This one wasn't mentioned, so it's probably not that awesome."
Not crippling, but still better avoided.
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