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[Culise]

Just got started catching up with Konosuba season 2. Still pretty funny. Happened across a better description of it than I'd managed to come up with, "If Seinfeld was an isekai parody and the characters were all terrible people."

Isn't the second half of that redundant?  Half the schtick of Seinfeld was that the characters were all terrible people.

I'll admit, though, if it weren't for all the warnings about pervasive fanservice in it, I would actually be intrigued enough to pick up Konosuba (especially with recommendations like this). I've just gotten so ill-tempered about gratuitous fanservice in the last four-five years that I simply haven't been able to drum up the will to give it a try.

[JoshuaFH]

Just got started catching up with Konosuba season 2. Still pretty funny. Happened across a better description of it than I'd managed to come up with, "If Seinfeld was an isekai parody and the characters were all terrible people."

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Anyway, so I walk into my gym's locker room, which has a wide screen tv in it, and by sheer coincidence this happens to be airing on it: Russian Figure Skater who happens to be a huge Sailor Moon fan.

I'm almost positive that someone must have brought up Russian Usagi atleast once before in the past, but she's so adorable it's worth mentioning again.

[Cruxador]

Just got started catching up with Konosuba season 2. Still pretty funny. Happened across a better description of it than I'd managed to come up with, "If Seinfeld was an isekai parody and the characters were all terrible people."

Isn't the second half of that redundant?  Half the schtick of Seinfeld was that the characters were all terrible people.

I'll admit, though, if it weren't for all the warnings about pervasive fanservice in it, I would actually be intrigued enough to pick up Konosuba (especially with recommendations like this). I've just gotten so ill-tempered about gratuitous fanservice in the last four-five years that I simply haven't been able to drum up the will to give it a try.

We've had this discussion like two or three times in this thread, but I didn't find it to be gratuitous. Your mileage may vary.

[Flying Dice]

Just got started catching up with Konosuba season 2. Still pretty funny. Happened across a better description of it than I'd managed to come up with, "If Seinfeld was an isekai parody and the characters were all terrible people."

Isn't the second half of that redundant?  Half the schtick of Seinfeld was that the characters were all terrible people.

I'll admit, though, if it weren't for all the warnings about pervasive fanservice in it, I would actually be intrigued enough to pick up Konosuba (especially with recommendations like this). I've just gotten so ill-tempered about gratuitous fanservice in the last four-five years that I simply haven't been able to drum up the will to give it a try.

Kinda, yeah. But it's used increasingly as a more general "show about people doing nothing in particular" reference that it seems worth specifying.

As for the other, we've sounded it out before, and it's probably best to just watch a little and see for yourself.  Here's the OP2 for anyone who's later than me. That derpy running and dancing kills me.

[Tack]

I know a lot of you guys don't watch this kind of thing.

Well I'm offended.

[Cruxador]

I know a lot of you guys don't watch this kind of thing.

Well I'm offended.

That scene is done no service by omitting the bit about the safety.

[JoshuaFH]

So the latest Ito's Stories covers a short that I never read, and it made me ponder an unlikely moral quandary:

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The story covered a family that had the power to create a temporary 'clone' of a deceased person. It very specifically says that the copy is not a reincarnation, a revival, nor did we kidnap the person from the afterlife and keep their ghost as a house pet, but rather it's just a clone of the person as the people remember them. That clone then slowly disappears over the course of two decades, like a ghost.

So the story's climactic moment reveals that the female main character of the story was one of these clones allll along, wow great twist there Junji did you email M. Night Shyamalan for advice on plot twists, but anyway her husband cheated on her, which is what forced the reveal in the first place. So, I'm thinking, this guy made a nigh-identical clone of his dead fiancee, married that dead memory clone, then cheated on her. So this woman, not the real one, I'm imagining watching this play out in heaven, and she's getting posthumously cucked by supernatural scumbag extraordinaire.  Then I thought, how can you cheat on a dead person, was his marriage ever valid since he married a dead person's memory clone? It's like if you made a robot with perfect AI that believed it was a human, married the robot, and then cheated on it, how much of an asshole are you? A philosophical quandary for the ages, I'm sure.

[MrRoboto75]

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Why did he go through all the trouble of recreating his dead wife if he's just gonna cheat on it

I mean, it'd be a lot easier if he just left her dead.

[IronyOwl]

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Maybe it felt like a good idea at the time, but the veil wore thin as time wore on?

Day 1: Miss her so much, do anything to get her back, want to look at her one more time, etc.
Day 1383: My dead love's creepy doppleganger keeps agreeing with everything I say because I was all lovey-dovey when I made her, this is creepy and weird.

[JoshuaFH]

So Thunderbolt Fantasy got a cool little movie: The Sword of Life and Death. Any other show and that name would be unbearably pretentious, but TF has the cred to pull it off in my book.

And I'll reiterate for good measure, Thunderbolt Fantasy is some of the coolest shit I've ever seen, and this little movie is lives up to the hype. I recommend that anyone watch the series first, as the movie is both prequel and sequal-teaser wrapped into one. God I can't wait for the sequel series, after they gave us a taste of this menagerie of cool-ass characters that are on the horizon.

[scriver]

A lot of Ito stories that I've read (and I've read, like, five of them, so I'm a certified expert) seem to have the problem of the twist being too convoluted to be scary.

[Egan_BW]

I will tell you why you should be spooked soon. But first! I must explain to you the mating habits of yellow-bellied sliders.

[Cruxador]

Yuru camp is so comfy.

[JoshuaFH]

A lot of Ito stories that I've read (and I've read, like, five of them, so I'm a certified expert) seem to have the problem of the twist being too convoluted to be scary.

Pretty much. I'd say all of his best stories are ones that don't have twists, but rather that they don't have explanations at all, and leave you thinking what the hell just happened. The archetypical Ito monster isn't something that can even be understood, but is lovecraftian in nature, way further above anything that can be fought with human means, whose malevolence exerts itself both over the characters minds and bodies in ways that seemingly can't be defended against. Perhaps lovecraftian isn't the right word, because a lovecraftian creature is so much greater than anything humans can conceive of that it is indifferent to the plight of humans, while an Ito antagonist seems to be something that is designed by a higher intelligence (like an author of some kind...) from the ground up to target and specifically hate humans, or atleast whoever the protagonist is at the time.

I wonder if they'll be doing his longer stories, cause ones like Tomoe, Gyo, or Uzumaki are what made him really famous.

[Jopax]

So after rewatching the first season of Seven Deadly Sins (still damn good) I started with the second. Right off the bat it does some things I really dislike, namely the whole power levels as numbers thing, seems utterly dumb and lazy and seriously detracts from the whole thing. Also hawk should've just stayed dead, that thing was annoying before but he's utterly insufferable now.

Rest of it seems up to snuff for the most part, Ban is still probably the most interesting character, learning more about Meliodas is cool too, even tho the new bads seem utterly archetypal and tropey, also not sure where King goes after this, that could all be handled poorly or it could turn out neat, will wait and see.

All in all, it's part the high bar set by the first season and part this one so far making some really lazy choices that's giving me doubt about it all, but we'll see.