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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #25305 on: November 07, 2015, 07:37:15 pm »

Japanese writing and how things are pronounced are a little different. Phonemes ending with an "u" sound are by convention often the place holder for an unvocalized sound. Think a syllable boundary between two consonants in English. "Batman" would be written "Ba-tu-ma-n" in Japanese but still pronounced "Batman". For example in Paranoia Agent, the villain is always stated as "Shonen Bat", not "Shonen Batu", but the word "bat" here would in fact be written with the syllables "Ba" and "tu". Say "BAT" in English and notice that no matter what you do there's a slight hiss of air after the final "T". That slight exhalation of air is what the "u" in Japanese "tu" actually signifies. English also has that sound, we just don't write it down so we forget it exists.
This is a good explanation, but you unfortunately picked an example that's an exception and therefore wrong.

There is no "Tu" syllable in Japanese. It is replaced by "Tsu", and is never used to represent hard T sounds in loanwords. Instead, "To" is used. "Battoman" is how Batman is spelled, and "Shounen Batto". It's still generally voiced in a reduced way when they're trying to say an English word, though. D is a modification of T in Japanese, so the same goes for it. Bird = "Baado", Bed = "Beddo" etc.
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #25306 on: November 07, 2015, 07:49:55 pm »

Episode 10 of Madoka Magica.

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« Reply #25307 on: November 07, 2015, 08:10:32 pm »

Japanese writing and how things are pronounced are a little different. Phonemes ending with an "u" sound are by convention often the place holder for an unvocalized sound. Think a syllable boundary between two consonants in English. "Batman" would be written "Ba-tu-ma-n" in Japanese but still pronounced "Batman". For example in Paranoia Agent, the villain is always stated as "Shonen Bat", not "Shonen Batu", but the word "bat" here would in fact be written with the syllables "Ba" and "tu". Say "BAT" in English and notice that no matter what you do there's a slight hiss of air after the final "T". That slight exhalation of air is what the "u" in Japanese "tu" actually signifies. English also has that sound, we just don't write it down so we forget it exists.
This is a good explanation, but you unfortunately picked an example that's an exception and therefore wrong.

There is no "Tu" syllable in Japanese. It is replaced by "Tsu", and is never used to represent hard T sounds in loanwords. Instead, "To" is used. "Battoman" is how Batman is spelled, and "Shounen Batto". It's still generally voiced in a reduced way when they're trying to say an English word, though. D is a modification of T in Japanese, so the same goes for it. Bird = "Baado", Bed = "Beddo" etc.

Oh yeah sorry you're right. it's shounen ba-to. So a silent 'o' is used when needed.

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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #25308 on: November 07, 2015, 08:16:13 pm »

And now Episode 11.

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« Reply #25309 on: November 07, 2015, 08:18:46 pm »

Watch a show to cheer yourself up next. I recommend Air or Angel Beats or AnoHana. It's amazing how many cheerful and uplifting animes begin with "A".
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« Reply #25310 on: November 07, 2015, 08:29:53 pm »

Ah, Angel Beats. The only anime that I would recommend while utterly despising the ending.
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« Reply #25311 on: November 07, 2015, 08:43:08 pm »

Watch a show to cheer yourself up next. I recommend Air or Angel Beats or AnoHana. It's amazing how many cheerful and uplifting animes begin with "A".

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« Reply #25312 on: November 07, 2015, 08:45:59 pm »

Watch a show to cheer yourself up next. I recommend Air or Angel Beats or AnoHana. It's amazing how many cheerful and uplifting animes begin with "A".

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It's fine; I've watched Angel Beats, and it being on that list was enough to tip me off about the rest.

Also;
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« Reply #25313 on: November 07, 2015, 09:23:11 pm »

Ah, Angel Beats. The only anime that I would recommend while utterly despising the ending.
The ending-ending or the post-credits ending?
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« Reply #25314 on: November 07, 2015, 09:36:35 pm »

Ah, Angel Beats. The only anime that I would recommend while utterly despising the ending.
The ending-ending or the post-credits ending?
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« Reply #25315 on: November 07, 2015, 09:43:39 pm »

Ah, Angel Beats. The only anime that I would recommend while utterly despising the ending.
The ending-ending or the post-credits ending?
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Ah. So basically everything after
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Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« Reply #25316 on: November 07, 2015, 09:45:47 pm »

Finally got around to starting Yuru Yuri Season 3. Fun things are fun. Yurus are yuru.

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« Reply #25317 on: November 07, 2015, 10:18:48 pm »

Ah, Angel Beats. The only anime that I would recommend while utterly despising the ending.
The ending-ending or the post-credits ending?
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While the final plot twist was already planned out, Angel Beats was apparently cut down during planning from a much longer show to ~13, so they had to fast-track some events to finish it up in time:

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« Reply #25318 on: November 08, 2015, 04:50:42 pm »

Apparently in the universe of Concrete Revolutio the Beetles have magic guitars that make people high and turn into hippies if they listen to them live, and give people superpowers if they hit the strings in a certain way.

Have I mentioned how much I love this show?

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« Reply #25319 on: November 08, 2015, 05:23:53 pm »

My best friend likes anime but doesn't like humanity has declined, what can I do about this? :V
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