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[Furtuka]

I think it's just that he read your post/posted/was in the process of posting before you had finished your highspeed edit Reelya.

[Frumple]

@neo: ... mobile suits. There's not a separate name. Gundam, guntank, and guncannon, are all specific mobile suits, not... some kind of odd seperate category. In lore they were all designed for eventual mass production.* I guess if you're talking strictly the first series, you'd be thinking zeon mobile suits, but the GM and ball and whatnot showed up, too, if my memory's not completely failing me, so that doesn't really work.

As for the jegan, I'll give it this much: It's better than the GM :V

*And, indeed, eventually were -- there wasn't actually all that terribly much special about the gundam itself, except that freaking amuro the god of death was piloting it, and iirc zeon was producing suits with higher specs than the gundam by the end of the OYW in fairly decent numbers. There's actually a few other gundams running around concurrently with amuro's first walkabout, even, I do believe.

[Reelya]

No, the basics of what I wrote was in the first version. There's no actual reason to have 4 types even according to Neo's system.

[i2amroy]

Spoiler: So guess what's getting a plamo (click to show/hide)

Is it wrong that I was more excited about the idea of a KanColle-esque show based on the background artwork than the actual Gundam stuff? (Not that I'm hating on you guys, I've just never been a big fan of giant robot shows in general ).

[Culise]

Then what are Mobile suits that are explicitly not Gundams, Guncannons, or Guntanks called?

As a general category?  They're called mobile suits.  All Gundams are mobile suits, but not all mobile suits are Gundams.  Or Guncannons or Guntanks, for that matter, though those are actually specific production models.  They might be called by their model if you're being more specific, though: Zaku, GM, Rick Dias, Jegan, or what have you. 

Actually, what makes an MS a Gundam can be sometimes tricky to discern, especially once all mobile weapons began using gundarium alloy.  Rule of thumb is basically that (a) it's a Federation model (Zeon and the Jovians do not build Gundams, though they may steal them; they have their own in-house designers), and (b) that it's basically a kitchen-sink prototype.  The most practical way is to check if it has the word "Gundam" in its name.  That'll get most of them, except oddball names like the Hyaku Shiki (Delta Gundam) or Penelope (Odysseus Gundam with Fixed Flight attachment).  And that's just UC; the definition itself changes based on which setting you're in. 

NOTQUITEANEDIT: Good heavens, y'all move fast.  Half a dozen new replies while I was checking on UC Gundams for any I missed.

[Frumple]

Well, and some of the odd ones in the other direction... I'm pretty sure the B Gundam doesn't really count as a gundam

I mean, it probably should, because it's amazing (even if its performance is even worse than what it's patterned off of :V), but still.

[Furtuka]

@neo: ... mobile suits. There's not a separate name. Gundam, guntank, and guncannon, are all specific mobile suits, not... some kind of odd seperate category. In lore they were all designed for eventual mass production.* I guess if you're talking strictly the first series, you'd be thinking zeon mobile suits, but the GM and ball and whatnot showed up, too, if my memory's not completely failing me, so that doesn't really work.

As for the jegan, I'll give it this much: It's better than the GM :V

*And, indeed, eventually were -- there wasn't actually all that terribly much special about the gundam itself, except that freaking amuro the god of death was piloting it, and iirc zeon was producing suits with higher specs than the gundam by the end of the OYW in fairly decent numbers. There's actually a few other gundams running around concurrently with amuro's first walkabout, even, I do believe.

Well the Gundam did have the advantage of having the first beam weapons and basically being bulletproof due to its special expensive alloy, which is pretty much the only thing that was keeping Amuro alive until that was pointed out to him in the Ramba Ral arc.

The amount of Gundams that were running around in the One Year War according to side materials can get pretty hilarious at times. There's the Ground Gundams + EZ-8, the Alex, the Gundam Pixie(s), the Full Armor, the Heavy Gundam, the G04, the G05, the G-3 Gundam, the Waterproof Gundams, Blue Destiny Unit 2, Blue Destiny Unit 3, and the Mudrock Gundam.

Spoiler: So guess what's getting a plamo (click to show/hide)

Is it wrong that I was more excited about the idea of a KanColle-esque show based on the background artwork than the actual Gundam stuff? (Not that I'm hating on you guys, I've just never been a big fan of giant robot shows in general ).

That was actually what I was posting about. The Super Fumina showed up as a joke in the last episode of Build Fighters Try and so it's kinda hilarious that it's getting its own kit

[Frumple]

... wasn't that special alloy just luna titanium? I mean, it was definitely an advantage when it was first fielded, but they were eventually loading up a buncha' junk with that stuff, iirc. Though checking it does look like it was primarily around key areas instead of the whole thing...

Beam rifle was definitely a big deal, but it was also something that was mostly ubiquitous after a bit. Was the point I was tryin' to make, that there wasn't anything really special about the gundam except its pilot. Everything about it was (in some cases fairly rapidly, as in the case of the beam weaponry) disseminated out.

[Furtuka]

Ah yeah agreed.

[JoshuaFH]

So naturally after watching Ashita no Joe, I decide to pick up Ashita no Joe 2. I'm loving it so far, the art style and cinematography is extremely similar to the Black Jack OVA, which I just adore.

Will be continuing strongly.

[quinnr]

Finally got around to watching Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works (it's on Netflix!) I was really excited because Rin's always been my favorite character (her and Illyasviel) in the show, and the entire first episode was the story from her point of view. Then I realize that it was labelled Prologue and we're back to Emiya. So sad I'm sure it'll be great though, I haven't played through any of the game past the beginning so it'll be neat to see what's different in this route.

Also, the animation is WAY PRETTY (that first fight scene...the particles...) which is great since most of these first episodes are not really different from the anime at all.

[Bauglir]

Finally got around to watching Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works (it's on Netflix!) I was really excited because Rin's always been my favorite character in the show, and the entire first episode was the story from her point of view. Then I realize that it was labelled Prologue and we're back to Emiya. So sad

Oh thank god, it wasn't just me.

Ah, but seriously, I actually endorse that one with no reservations (that I can think of right now). It's like, sometime after Fate/Zero, the Nasuverse was struck by lightning and split in two. The evil half went on to become Prisma Illya and peeps in children's dressing rooms, while the good half became this version of UBW and hits existential angst with swords.

[Orange Wizard]

Finally got around to watching Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works (it's on Netflix!) I was really excited because Rin's always been my favorite character in the show, and the entire first episode was the story from her point of view. Then I realize that it was labelled Prologue and we're back to Emiya. So sad

Oh thank god, it wasn't just me.

Pretty sure everyone would have preferred it from Rin's POV.

I liked Fate/Zero more than UBW, myself. Mostly because there was more time spent exploring all the servant/master relationships and forms thereof, and less of the funky Archer x Rin x Emiya x Saber love polygon nonsense.

[Bauglir]

Oh, I liked Fate/Zero better, too, but I have reservations about recommending it to people. For example, I have to say, "Okay, please overlook pretty much everything about Sakura". It's not that it's not better, it's just that Fate/Zero has a bunch of extra stuff that I feel compelled to disclaim.

[quinnr]

So, episode 8 of Charlotte is out now. (And I just realized it's on Hulu...geez they actually keep that stuff up to date now. What a good time.)

Spoiler: Charlotte (click to show/hide)

The opening is WAY more emotional now, like I can't even deal with that.

I feel like narratively this should be terrible. I mean, they basically went from being a super cheerful show to getting very deep by throwing in just some random death in a single episode. And then they went completely back to normal (at least so far, I'm only like five minute sin). But it did completely change the way the show feels, probably for the better, (the scene at the beginning where teleport-guy gets the food for him, and he assumes its just because they all want to make up for his loss was especially touching) and I like it, so I'm not going to complain.

EDIT2: I SPOKE TOO SOON NOPE NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS NARRATIVE WOW FEELS OUT THE WAZOO.

Also the last day that I'm going to be alone for a while so hopefully there won't be any tears in what I binge watch tonight. New roommate who I'm pretty sure won't like anime as much as my old roommate It's definitely not the same watching without a friend.

EDIT: Also, Key does a really good job at incorporating music into their shows.