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[Andres]

It is probably one of the only animes in existence with that kind of epic storytelling (not "epic" as in "WHOA EPIC!")... Well to admit I say that but I can't think of a single other anime that tried to do that.

Fate/Zero had the same kind of epic storytelling. Bonus points for having the subject of the first RL epic in it too.

[Neonivek]

Well I finished "Control the Money"

And I have to say

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Thanks god... you really did us a solid... *sarcasm*

Overall it was an alright, albeit short, anime.

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I am surprised Fate/Zero goes through several generations of heroes with the direct result of the previous heroes adventures being felt with a heaping helping of "People moved on".

[Karlito]

Little Witch Academia 2 this October.

[Furtuka]

I am surprised Fate/Zero goes through several generations of heroes with the direct result of the previous heroes adventures being felt with a heaping helping of "People moved on".

It doesn't really. He probably meant the Fate franchise as a whole but... it really doesn't fit that either, Zero was a prequel to Fate and its events are reeeaaaally heavily tied to the story of Fate. And the franchise only goes through two generations. The closest thing I can think of to what you were describing is Jojo and its different parts.

[Reelya]

For a prequel you're working within strict story bounds too, since you can't inject dialogue into the original series that would give more context to what happens of the prequel. So you're kind of constrained that anything novel you add is either killed off or forgotten by the time the main series comes around. "People moved on" is basically what you get with any element of a prequel not directly tying into the main series.

In Macross, you get this mainly with Macross Zero (2002), the prequel to the original Macross (1982). Extremely weird and monomentous stuff happens in Macross Zero, almost all of which is never mentioned again until 50 years later in Macross Frontier (which came out in 2008), and then it's mentioned as this well-known old story that everyone knows about, enough that the Macross Zero story is getting movie adaptations in-universe. Macross Zero also has a example of this the other way around - after Macross Frontier came out they retconned the BluRay release of Macross Zero to have some visual cues linking it to Frontier.

[Furtuka]

I will say in robotech's favor the books are surprisingly engaging. There's actually nearly two dozen of the things.

Also it gets credit since apparently one of the main responses it gets when Japanese folks hear about it/watch it is shock that they managed to make Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross actually watchable

[Tellemurius]

Little Witch Academia 2 this October.

About fucking time this released.

[Reelya]

I will say in robotech's favor the books are surprisingly engaging. There's actually nearly two dozen of the things.

Also it gets credit since apparently one of the main responses it gets when Japanese folks hear about it/watch it is shock that they managed to make Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross actually watchable

That's the only one I never tried watching in it's original form. Macross and Mospeada are great series though. I probably should get onto Southern Cross one day. I don't know anyone offhand who's actually watch Southern Cross by itself. I'm willing to give anything the benefit of the doubt until I actually check it out.

[JoshuaFH]

Little Witch Academia 2 this October.

About fucking time this released.

I'd like to repeat the sentiment. They've been taking their sweet sweet time with an IP that's clearly made of gold.

[MarcAFK]

I will say in robotech's favor the books are surprisingly engaging. There's actually nearly two dozen of the things.

Also it gets credit since apparently one of the main responses it gets when Japanese folks hear about it/watch it is shock that they managed to make Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross actually watchable

That's the only one I never tried watching in it's original form. Macross and Mospeada are great series though. I probably should get onto Southern Cross one day. I don't know anyone offhand who's actually watch Southern Cross by itself. I'm willing to give anything the benefit of the doubt until I actually check it out.

I haven't seen any robotech since I was a kid, I'm confused by the many different series, but I should probably just start at the beginning(of the translated US versions) right?

[Reelya]

I really can't recommend starting with Robotech even though I enjoyed it as a kid.

Spoiler: general issues with Robotech (click to show/hide)

Once you watch the whole thing right through you can start documenting things that make no sense (due to script changes which don't match the action, and tying three unrelated series together which have themes and enemies which contradict each other).

They really butchered the dialogue in Robotech. This was from an age they didn't just dub things, they chopped them up "localized" them and rewrote the script. This makes it hard to switch from Robotech to any of the related series, since there's basically no continuity. Characters who are dead in Robotech are still alive in Macross and vice versa. But worse than that, there is no continuity within Robotech. Since it's three unrelated series stitched together, the entire cast periodically vanishes without any explanation, and the narrator handwaves what happened to everyone.

Also, a lot of the things in the related Macross series won't make much sense if you watch Robotech first without re-watching the thing in Japanese.

For example. The "Protoculture" is the ancestral race of humans in Macross. But the guys who rewrote it as Robotech decided it would be "cooler" if "Protoculture" meant sci-fi superfuel that powers giant robots, and which aliens have come to Earth to find, because they ran out. But they didn't actually change the dialogue much, so half the conversations in Robotech are completely WTF until you watch Macross and then all the wacky stuff suddenly makes sense. For example, in Robotech alien clone races think kissing means you invented robot fuel ("protoculture") rather than what it means in the original Japanese series: that you are a sexually reproducing species.

If you watch Robotech first, you'd probably have to rewatch it as SDF Macross if you want to understand what's going on in the recent entries in the series, which have modern graphics. So I'd recommend just watch SDF Macross for that reason, and Mospeada as well (which was used as part 3 of Robotech).

[Neonivek]

This was from an age they didn't just dub things, they chopped them up "localized" them and rewrote the script.

Well... you still "Localize" them... and the age of localization hasn't exactly ended either... in fact they are currently doing something far worse

They are localizing subs now

But then again all my old favorite animes were localized (Digimon for example... HEAVY localization)

[Reelya]

Yeah but they didn't mash that up in poke-digi-vanguard battle busters. So at least your still getting one series and not wrecking a pile of shows all at once. To do the Robotech thing they would take one season of Digimon and explain how the main character is actually Ask Ketchum's son, and hand-wave away why all the monsters are different and you never see any of the Pokemon characters again.

[Neonivek]

Yeah but they didn't mash that up in poke-digi-vanguard battle busters. So at least your still getting one series and not wrecking a pile of shows all at once. To do the Robotech thing they would take one season of Digimon and explain how the main character is actually Ask Ketchum's son, and hand-wave away why all the monsters are different and you never see any of the Pokemon characters again.

Ohh no I realize that Robotech is just a few lines short of being flat out Samurai Pizza Cats.

On the plus side though... They never pretending it was a dub they mostly treat it like an entirely new property.

[Leafsnail]

LotGH is definitely epic in style.

Also Death Note as a musical makes perfect sense to me, it's full of monologues and is very melodramatic.