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Plank of Wood

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Re: I am pretty annoyed.
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2008, 06:26:04 am »

I only ever use Fish/meat and raw gathered plants in my roasts. Much more reasonable priced and the ingrediants are reasonably easy to get.
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« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2008, 08:06:36 am »

I didn't know about mass-forbidding/melting/dumping via the z-menu until i was already WAY into the game. gotta say, that made everything way less tedious.
You can do that?! ARGH!

Also:
Spirits of Fire (or any demons, I guess) won't trigger traps. And that they destroy doors and floodgates. And they vapourize water, so you can't drown them. And that sending ALL your dwarves to wrestle one is a veeeeeeery bad idea.
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Plank of Wood

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« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2008, 08:52:32 am »

Stationing several hundred dwarves in a single sqaure, give them all crossbows and making 9 METRIC FUCKTONS of bolts beforehand works fine for me.
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JoshuaFH

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« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2008, 12:49:16 pm »

quarry bushes are the 'sploit. 1 seed to 5 plants to 25 leaves to 75 meals. Mix in some sugar and flour, and you have yourself some kind of leaf cookie. Delicious.

But the thing I wished I knew earlier was that you can go up and down z levels with the >< keys. Makes you want to >.<

It wasn't actually explained anywhere. I ran a pretty okay fortress without changing zlevels, although I was confused about the lack of ground in some places. Oh well. I think it cramps my style even today. I don't plan to add a zlevel until later, so I have some pretty oddly configured forts.

Ha, i remember first changing z-levels by accident when i went to press ? that would bring up the help menu.
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« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2008, 05:55:30 pm »

Flat fortress are so in now a days! What you talking about.  ::)




Me:     "Where did my dwarves go!?"




My third fortress had the luxary of knowing how to change Z-Levels!
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« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2008, 04:58:50 am »

Stationing several hundred dwarves in a single sqaure, give them all crossbows and making 9 METRIC FUCKTONS of bolts beforehand works fine for me.
I live in the US so I'm used to imperial fucktons.  What's the ratio of imperial to metric?  I need to know!
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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2008, 07:24:39 am »

When selecting materials for a large construction, instead of hitting the enter key 81 times you can hit shift+enter to select all the materials of one type at one.

Thank you for posting this. You just saved my Enter key lots of work :)
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Samyotix

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« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2008, 07:40:49 am »

For food, the value inflation is quite extreme IRL as well ...

The contents of a frozen pizza, for example, are like 150 g flour, 40g tomato extract, three slices of something meaty, plus some chemicals stabilizers, flavoring, flavor enhancers, hardened fat, acidity regulator and coloring. I highly doubt the manufacturer pays more than a few cent for the basic material; the finished good (admittedly including costs for haulers, and a cooled food stockpile) costs well over a dollar.

Stock cubes are said to be a gold mine for their manufacturers, with a huge profit margin way larger than most other foods: Shred and boil low-quality meat that's close to rotting, add chemicals, press into bricks.

And for rather extreme value increases, visit some high-class restaurants. True, they buy choice raw materials, but the sums they'll charge for some of the rarer foods are outrageous. There's people who pay $50 and more for a simple steak-and-salad main course, so I can totally believe a dwarf forks out Hundreds for that "Giant Cave Spider Meat + Quarry Bush roast" :-)

... but, yes, food is overpriced in DF; it seems slightly unfair or out of balance when a stack of quarry bush roast sells for like 50.000 dwarfbucks and even simple meat roasts (with a master cook) will nearly always fetch 1800-2500.
... Dwarf traders got over 80.000 in Offerings alone last year, and they sell steel plate.


But, sorry for the food rant, back on topic ...

I was pretty annoyed when ...

a) I spent two evenings building  bridges and walls, believing I'd be able to shoot Goblins at that wall with like a ballistic trajectory.
(The wall was like 8 levels high, with a channel underneath so any splattered goblin would've fallen into a goods stockpile ... if any goblin had been splattered against the wall.)
What happened instead: Goblin steps on pressure plate, walks onto bridge, bridge raises, goblin is now under the bridge. Bridge closes, Goblin gone without a trace (= atom smashed).
I couldn' get my bridges to actually throw anything ...

b) ... in the middle of a siege, as the bulk your army is stampeding towards the enemy, you suddenly realize that your crossbowdwarves are still wielding the -Copper Warhammers- they'd been melee-training with.
Luckily they also wore chain ... only one marksdwarf (and a Macelord) died from the goblins' bows.
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Re: I am pretty annoyed.
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2008, 09:01:35 am »

When selecting materials for a large construction, instead of hitting the enter key 81 times you can hit shift+enter to select all the materials of one type at one.

Thank you for posting this. You just saved my Enter key lots of work :)
You can do that?!  ARRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2008, 02:39:35 pm »

I remember in 38c you had to indivually select constructions.  Lets just say I had sore fingers.  *cough* SteelAge *cough* Sig *cough*
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« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2008, 08:39:39 pm »

b-C-w
b-C-f

Those few letters were the bane of my existence at one point. Quality vs. Quantity: quantity won over me that time. But I guess that's what I get for playing in an area with 6 soil levels and flat surface terran, eh?
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« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2008, 09:03:09 pm »

6 soil levels!  The most I've seen is 3.  That's pretty cool, not that much rock though. I think.  How many levels are there below ground? 10?
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« Reply #42 on: December 23, 2008, 12:46:40 am »

To this day I have never successfully found an underground river, chasm, bottomless pit, or lava pipe/pool.

It irks me.

I have, however, successfully begun my first underground farming operation.
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Re: I am pretty annoyed.
« Reply #43 on: December 23, 2008, 12:48:46 am »

To this day I have never successfully found an underground river, chasm, bottomless pit, or lava pipe/pool.

It irks me.

I have, however, successfully begun my first underground farming operation.
Dude, use the search features and set special features to always be visible in the init.txt files.
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"Oh look there is a dragon my clothes might burn let me take them off and only wear steel plate."
And this is how tinned food was invented.
Alternately: The Brick Testament. It's a really fun look at what the bible would look like if interpreted literally. With Legos.
Just so I remember

Fist_Of_Armok

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Re: I am pretty annoyed.
« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2008, 01:58:07 am »

To this day I have never successfully found an underground river, chasm, bottomless pit, or lava pipe/pool.

It irks me.

I have, however, successfully begun my first underground farming operation.
Dude, use the search features and set special features to always be visible in the init.txt files.

I do use the search feature.

And I do believe I will. How do I do this thing?
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