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ArneHD

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How sticky is magma anyway?
« on: December 07, 2008, 05:24:11 pm »

I would appreciate a little help on a little magma problem I have.

First some background: I've settled in a map that supposedly held a river, marble, magma pipe and wood, though I haven't found the marble yet. Anyway I was planning on leading the magma through a hallway to somewhere more convenient for my workshops, so I dug a pathway (simply digging towards it) and was fully expecting to get some hot magma goodness flowing. But it didn't.

The magma does not spread out from the central pipe, as far as I can tell. I looked above and found that there was no magma directly above the tile that I mined out to let the magma in (though there is magma above a few tiles in). Is that a problem? Thanks in advance.
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Christes

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Re: How sticky is magma anyway?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2008, 05:33:06 pm »

I'm not quite sure what you're saying.  A picture would be nice.

Magma isn't naturally pressurized like water is, but that doesn't sound like your problem.
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Re: How sticky is magma anyway?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2008, 05:41:52 pm »

You did not breach the wall but intended for the magma to pour down into the tunnel?
Atleast that's what it sounds like and to breach the roof you'll need to make a ramp or stairs and if this was your intention but there was no magma on the level above? yes then thats a problem because then theres no magma that can pour down into your pipe.
Either you breach the wall into the magma pipe on the same Z as the tunnel is or you'll have to dig upwards.
To be sure not to loose the dwarf intended to pierce the wall make him channel the tile from the level above.
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Re: How sticky is magma anyway?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2008, 06:22:08 pm »

Magma is chunky, not sticky. It flows, but it dose not flow quickly is probably the answer you're looking for.
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ArneHD

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Re: How sticky is magma anyway?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2008, 09:33:32 am »

I have a magma pipe that narrows inwards: Think a cone set atop a cylinder. I dug to and breached the wall at the angle between cone and cylinder. There was nothing standing in the way preventing my miner dwarf from becoming engulfed in hot magma.

z = 0
Code: [Select]

####m
####m
____m
####m
# = Rock, m = magma, _ = mined out space

The level above however:

Z = 1
Code: [Select]
#######m
#######m
______#m
#######m
#######m

For the same y,x coordinates.

Now for some reason the magma isn't spreading into the open space.

Edit: Never mind, I figured it out. The magma was hidden below the rocks I mined out. It was spreading, I just couldn't see it. An honest mistake, but my legendary miner probably isn't going to like me for this. If she survives.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2008, 09:45:05 am by ArneHD »
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Magua

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Re: How sticky is magma anyway?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2008, 12:16:08 pm »

That's always good times.  Especially when you accidentally designate aquifer tiles to be dug that you had previously cleared a "damp stone" warning from.

"Urist McMiner has drowned!"

Look around, see no water, scratch head...
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Lucifer

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Re: How sticky is magma anyway?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2008, 05:05:22 pm »

Yeah , seems thats what happend ;) I found out that magma/lava can breach walls of stone but it can't get through sand.. weird is it not?

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Re: How sticky is magma anyway?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2008, 06:12:41 pm »

Magma can't breach walls of stone.  It doesn't breach constructions of any sort, even wood.
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Re: How sticky is magma anyway?
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2008, 03:52:27 pm »

Magma can't breach walls of stone.  It doesn't breach constructions of any sort, even wood.

Well , its a natural wall.. as in "Warm Sand Wall"
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Re: How sticky is magma anyway?
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2008, 03:55:05 pm »

Magma still won't breach it.  "Warm" is like "damp" -- it's just a warning that magma is somewhere nearby, and that digging out the wall may lead to a magma flood.  But if you don't dig out the wall, magma will never breach it on its own.
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