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Tropico 3, optimism is welcome.
« on: December 07, 2008, 03:07:35 am »

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/tropico-3-strategy-game-rights-secured-by-kalypso-media-from-take-two

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/17/tropico-3-dictate-your-thoughts/#more-5195


I'm not going to lie, I don't see this game as being a major success, but the proposed developer has a history of making rather good city builder/rts games, so I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt.

Either way I'm stoked.
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Re: Tropico 3, optimism is welcome.
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2008, 10:59:26 am »

mmmm...rum soaked cigar barony...

unfortuantely i've never played anything which that game studio has made, anyone have any thoughts on how they'll do with it?
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2008, 11:25:11 am »

tropico is good.

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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2008, 11:31:26 am »

Oh great. I get to be a corrupt power hungry "president" dictator and be REWARDED for it.

It's the only game I know where the goal is to be as corrupt as possible for points. Stashing a ton of money in your Swiss bank account, rigging elections, etc.
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2008, 11:32:54 am »

probably that is why my points were always low.

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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2008, 01:53:02 pm »

I got tropico here. its easily one of my favourite games.

I think it was the first game that more or less randomly "weighted" the needs of individuals and therefore turning people... well... into individuals and not just generic simulated human beings.

But wasnt part 2 basically a lot of crap?

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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2008, 08:41:08 pm »

I wish for Tropico 2 they'd stayed on theme and improved the mechanics instead of basically re-using the same mechanics and engine and just completely changing the point of the game.
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2008, 08:55:09 pm »

Tropico was a very nice game. But Tropico 2 was lame. The gameplay got worse, much more simplistic, the programming was quite lazy (I needed administrator privileges to play it ?!?) and even the population got quite characterless.
So, if number three is like number one, it will be very good, but if they only get themselves some fancy graphics and an oh-so-original setting (medieval? Anno-ish?) they'll only get me to touch the package one in the store ("oh, Tropico. Err... Oh. Urgh.." Matakuka cancels Go Shopping: Too annoyed)
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2009, 12:30:56 pm »

I thought I'd bump this thread since Tropico 1 has always been one of my favorite games.

It looks like they're actually going forward with it, which I'm excited about.

Their Forum is also starting to improve and come alive (still some real asses around, which is unfortunate not only for the Forum, but for the game.):

http://forum.kalypsomedia.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=5

So I'm hoping maybe (please?) we can give them some traffic and help branch things out a bit. With a strong community, there's a much better chance that the game could become something really great.

If you've never played Tropico before, then it's worth trying. The basic mechanics shouldn't be entirely unfamiliar to DF players, they've got one of the nicest thematic sountracks, ever, and it's really quite a breath of fresh air.
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2009, 12:47:44 pm »

O.O Tropico YAAAAY :D

Tropico 1 was SO much fun.  You could abuse the hell out of your people but you'd end up with horrific rebellions and rampant starvation if you pushed them as hard as you could.  The only way to play it without any military bases was full-out democracy with free and open elections that you rarely ever cheated very much in.  If you started oppressing them, it was a very slippery slope that I never kept my footing on...

My only real problems with the game were with labor management.  If you think DF is annoying...  You had no control over where people lived, so sometimes they would take a laboring job over in city A, then move their home to city F, so whenever they went to work they would walk aaaalll the way to City A, then to the work site, swing their hammer literally exactly one time, then clock out--and still get paid as much.  Also, you thought DF was bad when you need those beds made now but your carpenter is on permabreak?  Sometimes all of your dock workers would be off eating, at church, etc., with no sense of sane work schedules, which means that sometimes you just couldn't get any money for months because nobody would show up to export your goods.

Aside from that, the game was a serious blast.  Tropico 2 was weird but fun, not worth the buy though.

I saw in a Tropico postmortem that their team couldn't make up their mind between a brutal dark realistic sim, a comedy, or what.  And you can see it in the person art.  Some are very cartoony and some are far more realistic.

If you thought SimIsle was a great idea but its execution was pants, Tropico has -better- execution at least.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2009, 12:53:54 pm »

TBH tropico 1 is one of my favorite games ever, havent played 2 (due to never seeing it, ANYWHERE) but i think 3 will flop unfortunatly :(

If you want tropico, play 1 + paradise island for the win!!  ;D
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2009, 01:00:00 pm »

I'm hoping (as I hope for every sequal) that they'll basically just recreate the original game, and add on to it, rather than going off in some half-assed direction.

More is good. Better (when directly quantifiable) is good. Different is...not always so good.
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2009, 01:26:41 pm »

The music from Tropico 1 is engraved in my memory forever. I never got why this game had the possibility to build individual houses, when tennements(sp?) for everyone is the only way to go.
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2009, 01:32:20 pm »

If tropico 3 is to tropico 2 what tropico 2 was to tropico 1, this game will be horribad.

So much for optimism  ;D

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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2009, 01:43:24 pm »

If tropico 3 is to tropico 1 what tropico 1 was to tropico 2, this game will be horrigood!

Fixed? I think... ;D

Anyway, I'm pretty optimistic at this point, provided the company does their research, and doesn't try to push it through too fast.

It's just too bad Toady doesn't come in sets of 12--I think he'd do an outstanding job with Tropico.
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