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i7 and the future of the components market
« on: December 02, 2008, 09:43:23 pm »

Well, the new Intel core 7 is out. Most LGA 775 related things have slipped in price. The AM2+ and Phenom line is looking more pathetic than ever.

Are we nearing the end of AMD? Their response to the i7 should be out in half a year or so, but I think Intel has them finally in a death grip. ATI is holding up well, and I'm confident they will survive the ordeal, but who will fill in the gap AMD will leave? Or will Intel have a near monopoly? I fear a future of decent processors beginning at 1000 USD and going up from there.
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Re: i7 and the future of the components market
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2008, 09:49:18 pm »

I didn't know what any of that meant, so...

stuffstuffstuffstuff monopoly? morestuff morestuff stuff

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EDIT AFTER LOOKING AT PREVIEW: $1000 is alot, does that mean $1000 of cost tacked on to every computer? Ouch.
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Re: i7 and the future of the components market
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2008, 09:59:02 pm »

When I am Emperor of the World, I will impose a new rule on all hardware manufacturers-

Pick one format and stick to it.  Anyone designing processors with planned obsolescence in mind will be drug into the street and shot.

I was building a new computer just earlier this year, and then 775s were the shit and 478s were nearly impossible to find.  Now 478 is a distant memory and all the 775s are being thrown in furnaces to increase collector value.  This wouldn't be a problem, except it renders the whole dang system incompatible, so if you want to upgrade a computer even six months down the line, you basically have buy new everything except the case.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2008, 10:07:50 pm by Aqizzar »
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Re: i7 and the future of the components market
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2008, 10:07:43 pm »

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EDIT AFTER LOOKING AT PREVIEW: $1000 is alot, does that mean $1000 of cost tacked on to every computer? Ouch.
Intel has a habit of pricing their best chips at about 1000 USD. If they had no competition, I'd be willing to be the only decent chips available would start at that price. Yeah, that's be +800 to 600 USD for a computer.
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Re: i7 and the future of the components market
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2008, 02:31:00 am »

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EDIT AFTER LOOKING AT PREVIEW: $1000 is alot, does that mean $1000 of cost tacked on to every computer? Ouch.
Intel has a habit of pricing their best chips at about 1000 USD. If they had no competition, I'd be willing to be the only decent chips available would start at that price. Yeah, that's be +800 to 600 USD for a computer.

and you are only counting with one processor ...
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Re: i7 and the future of the components market
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2008, 04:32:03 am »

about bitching about change of Socket: WHAT? heck, 775 has been around for a fair while, and its time for a change. CPU's get faster, so we need bigger sockets to use them properly. fact of life, you can't change it
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Re: i7 and the future of the components market
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2008, 08:02:02 am »

When I am Emperor of the World, I will impose a new rule on all hardware manufacturers-

Pick one format and stick to it.  Anyone designing processors with planned obsolescence in mind will be drug into the street and shot.

Hail Aqizzar, Emperor of the Internet!



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Re: i7 and the future of the components market
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2008, 11:58:29 am »

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Re: i7 and the future of the components market
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2008, 02:13:14 pm »

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Re: i7 and the future of the components market
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2008, 05:49:28 pm »

Anyone have any idea who could fill in AMD's shoes if they collapse?
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Re: i7 and the future of the components market
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2008, 09:24:30 am »

I doubt Intel would jack prices if AMD goes poof. It's just not good for business if nobody is buying new CPUs because they are too expensive for your regular upgrade.
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Re: i7 and the future of the components market
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2008, 12:35:11 pm »

You're forgetting that IT departments don't have to justify their budget, and tech-nerds will spend up to and including the price of a used car if it'll net them some theoretical boost in performance.
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Re: i7 and the future of the components market
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2008, 12:41:42 pm »

I'd be more happy if they just chose one name and just kept adding numbers to the end with each new version so I wouldn't have to spend hours trying to figure out which graphics card is better.

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Re: i7 and the future of the components market
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2008, 02:58:03 pm »

I'd be more happy if they just chose one name and just kept adding numbers to the end with each new version so I wouldn't have to spend hours trying to figure out which graphics card is better.

You'd get an infinity +1 sword (Or rather, CPU/GPU) trope.
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Re: i7 and the future of the components market
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2008, 04:14:25 pm »

I'd be more happy if they just chose one name and just kept adding numbers to the end with each new version so I wouldn't have to spend hours trying to figure out which graphics card is better.
You can't trademark a number.  That's pretty much the gist of how this all started.  Now it's down to the companies sticking with a consistent naming scheme that scales well.  Look what nVidia and ATI had to do when they hit the 9000 series.  Without going to 10000 (which [market wise] looks worse because 1 < 9) they changed the name.

Overall I agree to a point though.  A simple naming scheme of brand-instruction-version/cores/core version-speed would work for me.  i-x86-741-3Ghz
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