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Impaler[WrG]

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Re: Real-Life Ant Fortresses
« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2008, 09:40:40 pm »

Some of the concepts of fractal design are interesting for DF, the ant colonies have fractal growth in the sense that their overall shape (chamber size, vertical chamber distribution) remains constant while the whole thing gets wider and deeper.
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« Reply #46 on: November 30, 2008, 09:43:33 pm »

Which is one of the reasons why I want to make it.

My other one is to practice my modding skills. I already made a TES Mod :D
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« Reply #47 on: November 30, 2008, 09:44:27 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A042J0IDQK4&feature=related

Floating Ant Colonies!!! Nothing stops them!
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« Reply #48 on: November 30, 2008, 11:01:47 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A042J0IDQK4&feature=related

Floating Ant Colonies!!! Nothing stops them!
People sure can learn a thing from those ants...
Plus their sooo cute!!!
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« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2008, 04:03:28 am »

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and heal their wounded.

Actually no. Ants tend to just kill their wounded. Even more dwarfy than looking after them :p
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Re: Real-Life Ant Fortresses
« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2008, 01:20:56 pm »

I want to dig out one of my forts like they dug out that ant fort so I'd have an exposed dungeon. Then when I'm done with it I can flood it just like they did. Lacking access to cement I'll just use magma.
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« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2008, 01:23:07 pm »

Yeah, fill the whole thing with water/magma to make an obsidian cast, then dig out everything that's not obsidian.

As IRL, it would take months.
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« Reply #52 on: December 10, 2008, 05:18:39 am »

What the hell?

Did they drown all the ants with cement?

WTF is wrong with those people?!?!?
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Re: Real-Life Ant Fortresses
« Reply #53 on: December 10, 2008, 06:12:56 am »

What the hell?

Did they drown all the ants with cement?

WTF is wrong with those people?!?!?

It was abandoned, and the ants hadn't launched a reclaim party yet.


Anyway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Mt2E1M6dU&feature=related

Apparently ants like to make -gecko skull totems- as well...
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Re: Real-Life Ant Fortresses
« Reply #54 on: December 10, 2008, 06:36:23 am »

AWESOME.

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« Reply #55 on: December 10, 2008, 11:25:39 am »

Very very cool.

In the flaoting ant video I liked how they 'safely' escorted their queen to dry land by grabbing her head with their jaws and dragging her across the mud.  Kinda dwarfy in a way ;)  .

Also i cant belive they even dragged the gecko bones away. :o

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« Reply #56 on: December 10, 2008, 02:43:33 pm »

What the hell?

Did they drown all the ants with cement?

WTF is wrong with those people?!?!?

If you notice (there's a video):

1) They're red ants.  The bad kind.
2) They're in the middle of a cow pasture.

Given 1 & 2, I can assume that:

3) The owner of the land wanted the ants gone and that the scientists got permission to perform their experiment first.
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« Reply #57 on: December 23, 2008, 01:26:18 am »

I know a lot of people joke about "ants taking over" and whatnot. But the actual scientific reason that ants will never take over is because their greatest strength is their greatest weakness.

That mechanical trick of using "natural hydrolics" that allows them to lift 10x their body-weight over their head, specifically. Thing is, once you get over a certain size in a limb, that actually stops working. If you take a normal ant and increase it to even the size of your index finger, it'd be completely unable to support its own weight. Thus, ants can never gain intelligence through size growth. The only one who could ever become intelligent is the queen (she doesn't need to walk anywhere, so who cares if she can't support her own weight?), and the only control that a queen has over a colony is the ability to release pheramones that say "food is running low, go hunt" or "we have too many occupants to feed, go get yourself killed trying to destroy competing hives."

Because of this, there would need to be something to push ants to develop an entirely different form of locomotion. This is incredibly unlikely, along the order of likelihood that a human is born with gigantic steam-piston arms and no muscle matter (which is the exact-opposite of what ants need to do). So until your local hospital announces the birth of "steamboy the train-based wonder", we're all fine.
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Re: Real-Life Ant Fortresses
« Reply #58 on: December 23, 2008, 01:46:59 am »


 Interesting to note:

 Ants can lift several times their body weight at their current size.

 Humans, if you were to proportionally shrink our strength to our size down to ant-sized, would be capable to lifting several hundred times our weight.

 We would be smashing ants like no tomorrow. The only problem is we would die of dehydration in an hour.

 So yes. Pistons: Great at small scales. Muscles: Good at larger scales.
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« Reply #59 on: December 23, 2008, 02:01:49 am »

This hypothetical biology is amusing, tell me more.
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