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[OneTrue]

Aside from making more anvils, is there any point to metalsmithing? My mason can make furniture out of the ore, and it's just as valuable as furniture made from metal bars (and requires only 1 ore vs. 3 bars). Same goes for metalcrafting vs. stonecrafting.

[Dragooble]

can your mason make platinum goblets? i think not!

[Dude_Jebawe]

Metalsmithing and crafting allows you to use alloys to make furniture or crafts, which could potentially be more valuable?

[Overdose]

buckets and maybe blocks for building? I know buckets come in handy on no wood maps, when you chuck a bunch of useless copper into them, since it only takes 1 bar per bucket

[Magua]

Aside from making more anvils, is there any point to metalsmithing? My mason can make furniture out of the ore, and it's just as valuable as furniture made from metal bars (and requires only 1 ore vs. 3 bars). Same goes for metalcrafting vs. stonecrafting.

Weapons.

Armor.

Magma safe bridges, floodgates, etc.

[OneTrue]

Weapons.

Armor.

Magma safe bridges, floodgates, etc.

Weapons and armor are made by weaponsmiths and armorers, not metalsmiths. Good point about magma-safe stuff though.

[Mephansteras]

My answer: Mandates.

Besides, metal furniture and stuff has a coolness factor to it that you just don't get with the raw ores.

Other useful things: Metal chains & Cages for woodless maps. Animal traps too, for chasm vermin.

That and not all ores are worth as much as the base metal, just some of them. Granted, most of the really expensive ones are.

It is true, though, that my Blacksmiths get a lot less work then my WeaponSmiths, Armorers, and Metalcrafters.

[JoshuaFH]

why is it that anvils aren't considered wicked awesome trade goods? an item value of 100 makes these better than goblets considering the invested materials.

goblets = item value of 10 and three can be made with one bar. three bars make nine goblets with a total item value of 90.

anvils = item value of 100 and takes 3 bars to make

a standard quality iron anvil is worth 1,000 dwarfins, an exceptional one is worth 5,000 dwarfins, and a masterful one is worth 12,000 dwarfins, not bad considering its made out of the most easily acquired metal.

steel anvils are more awesome, 3,000 dwarfins for a standard quality one, 15,000 dwarfins for an exceptions one, and 36,000 dwarfins for a masterful one.

If you want to go out of your way to make an anvil out of adamantine, the last metal you can make anvils out of, with a material value of 300, are worth 30,000 dwarfins for a standard quality one 150,000 dwarfins for an exceptional one, and 360,000 dwarfins for a masterful one.

One should take note that Platemail has the same item value as anvils, as well as using the same amount of material, so a legendary armorer or blacksmith can be used interchangeably to make high value trade goods.

[Milskidasith]

To the above: Metalsmithing is far less useful than armorsmithing, so as far as "high value" trade goods go, platemail is your best bet. And since the weight problem can be easily negated by buying cheap rocks from caravans, it's better to train armorsmithing, n'est pas?

[JoshuaFH]

armorers are definitely better than blacksmiths. however, if a mood happens to land you with a free legendary blacksmith, don't shrug him off! he can make anvils out of your iron, and high value buckets out of your other valuable metals.

[Milskidasith]

I admit, that is useful. Of course that should only happen if you have your blacksmiths do hauling jobs rather than risk low grade armor (I know I do. )

[LegacyCWAL]

why is it that anvils aren't considered wicked awesome trade goods? an item value of 100 makes these better than goblets considering the invested materials.

Anvils are seriously frickin' heavy, so you can't trade nearly as many to the caravan.

[Milskidasith]

Err... not really.

All you have to do is request some stone and you can get massive weight for 3~10 dwarfbucks each.

[LegacyCWAL]

Doesn't matter.  If you're able to sell ten times as many anvils, then you're able to sell ten times as many goblets as well.


Edit: And besides, the more rocks you request, the less other stuff you can get.  This may or may not matter, but it's worth mentioning.

[Boogerman]

Metal chains & Cages for woodless maps.

The metalcrafting skill is used to make chains.