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[Tylui]

I support Frelock's proposition, and present my own.

The Right To Play: I propose a new form of webadicts proposition, wherein players that fail a suggestion lose, but only in the sense that they cannot win. They will be able to play, but their points remain static.

You already have a Proposition this Turn...  Do you want to replace your old one, or save this for the next turn?

I want in on this.

I propose the following:

All future propositions follow this standard form:

"I, <Name>, hereby submit the following proposition, dubbed <Proposition Name>, to the court to judge:
<Proposition>
I respectfully ask all members of the court to carefully consider it's merits and cast their vote accordingly."

Ah, good.  A man after some order up in here!

I propose that all amendments dubbed 'immutable' be removed of this status, to allow a more flexible rule set.

This will need an 80% to be ratified, since it's a transmutation proposition.

Like you said to Armok after.

And I want the first one to go first; I want it changed from 80% to mutable-ize it to Simple Majority to mutable-ize it.

Actually, if you look at the first time I quoted Armok, I told him then, too.

Alrighty, so you'd be amending the Rule that says 80% to be just a majority.  Good, I'll put that in.  Also, "mutable-ize" should be "transmute" since it's a type change.

So that's 5 Propositions... As soon as I hear back from sonerohi or 6 o'clock(PST) hits(whichever is first), I'll get Phase 2(Phase 2 is the voting phase) started.

[Pandarsenic]

Ahoy, last dude, propose to allow us to propose single rules with subheadings as a single rule.

[Servant Corps]

Proposition:
Singe rules with subheadings are to be treated as single rules.

[qwertyuiopas]

If I can join:

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I propose that players may be granted "advanced rights" allowing for up to 3 times as many subheadings to a proposition as a standard player. Said "advanced rights" must be granted through an %80 majority vote, and may be removed through the same method. The %80 is calculated from all of the players except the one being voted for or against.

If that counts as more than one rule, only the first sentence is to be considered.

[Tylui]

If I can join:

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I propose that players may be granted "advanced rights" allowing for up to 3 times as many subheadings to a proposition as a standard player. Said "advanced rights" must be granted through an %80 majority vote, and may be removed through the same method. The %80 is calculated from all of the players except the one being voted for or against.

If that counts as more than one rule, only the first sentence is to be considered.

I don't think I quite understand what you mean... What's a subheading?  Are you referring to Propositions?  If so, you want a certain person to be granted "advanced" proposing skillz, giving them rights to propose 3 per turn?

[qwertyuiopas]

I mean how armok's 7

emm, it's one rule, is this better?:

106. (i) Forum Amendment A
     a) in order to join the game, any player must state that they wish to join the game, and be approved by the judge.
     b) the judge should keep a list of all active players that he update at least each turn.
     c) one turn will always be 24 hours.
     d) if a player doesn't post for 5 turns, it is excluded from the game, and is counted as a new player would it rejoin.
     e) if the judge is unable to do a turn, he must either abdicate, or announce a vice-judge for the duration of unavailability
     f) the vice-judge has all the powers and responsibilities of the real judge when the judge is away, the judge will automatically count as away if he has not posted for 48 hours.
     g) a player may chose to eve the game at any time.

were counted as 7.
The lettered subheadings.


and certain PEOPLE, no limit on the number yet.

[Cheeetar]

I don't care if it's 80% I have to get, I want to make this crazy town!

[Tylui]

3 times as many "subheadings"(Which are called subsets, and are treated as a regular Rule) is still 0, because you can't propose a subset.  Just a rule.

You can propose a rule AS a subset of another rule...

Anyway, subsets really aren't important, they were just a way to initially organize the Rules so it would seem less intimidating.  Apparently people didn't read them anyway.

[Servant Corps]

Tylui: We want subheadings and subsets. They make it easier to actually craft legalisation here. Without the subset, the legalisation become meaingless. You can't just expect us to type one run-on sentence.

I withdraw my earlier proposition and propose a new, immutable one:

"Tylui is to be removed as Judge, and new elections will be held for anyone who desires to be a Judge."

[Tylui]

Tylui: We want subheadings and subsets. They make it easier to actually craft legalisation here. Without the subset, the legalisation become meaingless. You can't just expect us to type one run-on sentence.

I withdraw my earlier proposition and propose a new, immutable one:

"Tylui is to be removed as Judge, and new elections will be held for anyone who desires to be a Judge."

Ha, well I was currently in the process of posting your propositions anyway.  And for your newest proposition to pass, you'll need a unanimous vote since it changes an immutable rule.

[Tylui]

Phase II - Discussion

Status
--Players--
Tylui(Judge) - 0 points
sonerohi - 5 points
Armok - 0 points
webadict - 0 points
Pandarsenic - 0 points
Frelock - 0 points
Boksi - 0 points
Cheeetar - 0 points
Servant Corps - 5 points
qwertyuiopas - 0 points

It's time to vote!  Here are the Propositions:

301(sonerohi) -

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I propose that all criminals facing a death sentence be given an option for their room to be filled with cats, so the time slows down, giving them more time to enjoy their remaining life.

302(webadict) -

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I propose that any proposition that fails shall therefore cause the losing of the player that proposed the failed proposition, instead of -5 points.

(The ratification of this Proposition will modify Rule 204)

303(Frelock) -

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I propose that no player may propose a rule that is expressly designed to disadvantage one particular player, with the intention of making it difficult for that player to play

304(Boksi) -

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All future propositions shall follow this standard form: [spoiler]"I, <Name>, hereby submit the following proposition, dubbed <Proposition Name>, to the court to judge:
<Proposition>
I respectfully ask all members of the court to carefully consider it's merits and cast their vote accordingly."

305(Pandarsenic) -

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Any Transmutation Proposition requires a simple majority to pass.

(The ratification of this Proposition will modify Rule 105.B.II, and must be voted unanimously)

306(qwertyuiopas) -

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I propose that players may be granted "advanced rights" allowing for Proposition of up to 3 times as many subsets to a Single Proposition as a standard player. Said "advanced rights" must be granted and removed through an 80% majority vote, and may be removed through the same method.

307(Servant Corps) -

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Any Proposition with subsets are to be treated as a single Rule.

[Servant Corps]

Oh dear. I'm assuming I can't change Propositions now, can I?

If I can, I'll return 307 to its first proposition, all rules with subheadings are to be counted as subheads (and vote Yes on that). If not, oh well. I'll keep it as it is.

301: No.
302: Yes.
303: Yes.
304: No.
305: Yes.
306: No.
307: Yes.

[Tylui]

My votes:

301 - Err, no.
302 - Yep. (But we need some loss conditions.  )
303 - Yes.
304 - Oh God, please Yes.
305 - I like this one: Yes.
306 - Yes. If this is voted in, it does nothing until people can propose subheadings along with a regular proposition, but I think it will be a neat idea when it happens.
307 - No; I feel like this would create chaos and stuff.


Personal Key:
Red is a "No" vote
Green is a "Yes" vote

(Edit: I just realized that I have to vote either yes or no...  No abstaining!)

[Tylui]

I was just thinking about what I would do if someone changed... I decided that I wouldn't allow it...  but like...  I feel bad because I totally misunderstood you two for that whole discussion.  I'll change it.

[Pandarsenic]

301 Ah, no. Fundamental misunderstanding of this game.
302 No. Because that loss would just get voted away soon after, anyway.
303 Yes. It's only fair.
304 Yes. Make it easy to see.
305 Yes. One, it's mine. Two, it's easier this way.
306 No. We have infinite subsets anyway with 307.
307 Yes. Basic organizational capabilities, here we come!