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Squeegy

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Torture
« on: November 21, 2008, 10:14:30 pm »

From the Gulag Archipelago:

1. night - a newly awakened prisoner has reduced judgement
2. persuasion - convincing them that they faster they give in the better they'll be treated it effective
3. foul language - some people have strong aversions to swearing
4. psychological contrast - good cop, bad cop
5. preliminary humiliation - humiliate prisoners before interrogation: strip a woman naked, lock her in a box and have male guard peep in and praise her loudly and while laughing
6. confusion - one female interrogator stripteased in front of a prisoner
7. intimidation - threats, etc.
8. lie - to mother: "If you don't tell us such and such, it's going to be the worse for him. You'll be destroying him completely. Signing this paper is the only way you can save him."(destroy him) forged documents, etc.
9. playing on one's affection - sign this confession, or we'll hunt down and murder/kidnap your loved ones
10. sound effects - stand twenty-five feet away, forced to speak more and more loudly. OR, two interrogators bellow through megaphones into prisoner's ears, "CONFESS, YOU RAT!"
11. tickling - self-explanatory, simple but effective
12. cigarette put out on accused's skin
13. light effects - bright blinding light, no light, strobe light
14. imaginative trick: a prisoner was in the constant state of being LED to interrogation. go to room, go to cell, go to room, go to cell, etc.
15. box - confined space, mind tricks
16. discomfort - sitting on a stool not allowed to move, lean, sleep, etc.
17. divisional pit - a pit for prisoners
18. stand on his/her knees - this can break some people as the feeling of being dominated. one Soviet interrogator pissed on a man's face
19. stand there - just stand there. nothing else. no sleeping, eating, or drinking
20. deprived of water - no water at all
21. sleep deprivation - have someone run in, make noise, beat them, etc. when they nod off
22. assembly line - have multiple interrogators come in in shifts to interrogate
23. punishment cells - ex. room filled with bedbugs, extreme cold
24. locked in an alcove - combined with dripping water on head can cause amnesia and blackouts
25. starvation - no food
26. beatings - a swift kick to naked balls can cause unconsciousness, even bursting eardrums. also solar plexus hits, face punches, etc.
27. fingernail removal
28. strait jacket
29. breaking the prisoner's back

And these were just some of the Soviet Russian's interrogation techniques. Perhaps add a few?
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Re: Torture
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2008, 10:21:21 pm »

You forgot the most important Soviet interrogation technique...

JEDI MIND TRICKS!!!

you did put regular old mind tricks but it's rly not the same....
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Re: Torture
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2008, 10:37:09 pm »

1)  This is soviet techniques.  They weren't interested in controlling people's minds, they wanted to extract false confessions for sham trials.  Such confessions would be of no use to the LCS

2) Most of the applicable techniques fall into the broad existing catagories already.

3) The advantage of the current system is that it avoids any needless complication.
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Re: Torture
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2008, 10:40:11 pm »

Needless complication can be fun! You could upgrade your torture room... select different types of props to use...

Also, confession, mind control, same thing.
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Re: Torture
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2008, 10:42:27 pm »

Upgrade your torture room is a good idea.

Confession is not the same as mind control.  If the LCS extracted a false confession from someone and then sent them out to be a sleeper, the first thing their victim would do is talk to the police!  The LCS has to warp their thinking until they have a profound change of opinion, scaring someone into saying what you want doesn't accomplish that.
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Re: Torture
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2008, 10:42:57 pm »

Not really Squeegy.

False confessions is good for convicing the American ambassador that the Soviet Union is awesome. But a person who confessed to treason wouldn't go out and actually DIE for you, understand? The LCS needs more refined brainwashing techinques.
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Re: Torture
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2008, 10:57:52 pm »

But you could do the same things to brainwash them. Well, some of the same. Have someone dress up as a conservative and do it to them.
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Re: Torture
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2008, 01:36:40 am »

Needless complication can be fun! You could upgrade your torture room... select different types of props to use...
Pimp my torture room?
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Re: Torture
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2008, 12:55:40 pm »

This is a discussion we've had before, and the conclusion that was reached was that it's just not in the spirit of the game to make torture as graphic and detailed as possible. What we have is graphic and detailed enough.
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Re: Torture
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2008, 12:56:45 pm »

This is a discussion we've had before, and the conclusion that was reached was that it's just not in the spirit of the game to make torture as graphic and detailed as possible. What we have is graphic and detailed enough.

I strongly doubt that text counts as graphic. It's up to you to make a visual image. Then again, you can just as easily pretend you're using rape when you choose the "Expensive props" option.
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Re: Torture
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2008, 02:37:52 pm »

This is above all a satire game. Granted the current interrogation isn't very funny, adding excessive detail to it is just going to drive that away.
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Re: Torture
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2008, 03:16:57 pm »

Granted the current interrogation isn't very funny,

I for one laughed out loud the first time my interrogator played violent video games with a conservative.
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Re: Torture
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2008, 09:01:12 pm »

I find it very funny to see conversions happen so easily and people give up and die for the guy who, only a few days ago, wanted to kill him.
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Re: Torture
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2008, 12:10:08 am »

I find it very funny to see conversions happen so easily and people give up and die for the guy who, only a few days ago, wanted to kill him.

I assure you, when I want dead conservatives, I get dead conservatives, not brainwashed flunkies.  Still, it's funny.

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Re: Torture
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2008, 10:59:55 am »

At least if your brainwashed "liberals" die, you still sort of killed a conservative.
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