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Author Topic: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!  (Read 1194 times)

Warlord255

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I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« on: November 20, 2008, 11:49:55 am »

How do I stop my guys from wrestling while armed?

Also, the offender in question is wielding his hammer AND shield in his right hand, despite all my protests. Any fixes here?
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Ivefan

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Re: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2008, 11:51:43 am »

They've got things in their hands right? like clothes or so.
I made a thread bout crossbows with the same problem but it seem the only way to get rid of the stuff in their hands is by using companion - though i've not tried it yet.

Though. it's possible that they will wrestle anyways. just remembered that my fresh recruits ignored their crossbows too.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2008, 11:53:35 am by Ivefan »
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Warlord255

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Re: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2008, 11:56:51 am »

I eagerly await the next version, with its promised military fixes. -_-

And not having companion, my options are a bit limited.
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Re: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2008, 12:26:56 pm »

I haven't seen this problem, but you could try to forbid all of their held items, switch their weapon prefs to something two-handed (battle axe? spear?) with no shield, and then unforbid only the weapons you want them to carry before switching weapon prefs again.  So:

(U)nits - Urist McAmbidextrous - (i)nventory - pig tail sock - (f)orbid
(m)ilitary - Squad, the Overburdened Hands - (w)eapons - spears
...
unpause for a few time-steps
...
(Z)tatus - Stocks - Weapons - (f)orbid like crazy, leaving the desired weapons available
(m)ilitary - Squad, the Overburdened Hands - (w)eapons - swords & shields
...
unpause
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Ivefan

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Re: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2008, 12:36:40 pm »

Does not work, the item they hold is Owned and thus cannot be designated for dumping or forbidden.
And considering they can wear shields and a weapon they still insist on wrestling
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JoshuaFH

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Re: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2008, 12:56:16 pm »

i always thought that was really realistic, cause in my mind, i imagine ALL close range fighting to involve hand-to-hand combat in some subtle way, and so wrestling gets some minor experience.
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Ivefan

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Re: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2008, 01:01:48 pm »

i always thought that was really realistic, cause in my mind, i imagine ALL close range fighting to involve hand-to-hand combat in some subtle way, and so wrestling gets some minor experience.
Well that could have been the case. If they actually practiced archery at all wich they don't.
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Jurph

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Re: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2008, 01:07:16 pm »

If the items are Owned, you might be able to convince them to put spare items in storage if you gave them enough cabinets/coffers.  Are they sleeping in bedrooms, or barracks?
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Hamster Man

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Re: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2008, 01:08:31 pm »

Try undesignating the barracks. They might be too busy sparring to actually put their stuff up/dump it.
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Ivefan

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Re: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2008, 01:09:21 pm »

That did not work either because the items are Owned by another dwarf that got ripped during wrestling.
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Re: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2008, 02:27:25 pm »

i always thought that was really realistic, cause in my mind, i imagine ALL close range fighting to involve hand-to-hand combat in some subtle way, and so wrestling gets some minor experience.
Well that could have been the case. If they actually practiced archery at all wich they don't.

Do you have any bone/wood bolts made? Dwarves won't used anything else to practice.

Also, one of my champions is wearing greaves on his arms instead of gauntlets...
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Ivefan

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Re: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2008, 02:42:30 pm »

It's a bug and i've already had the discusion in another thread =P
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Re: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2008, 10:10:34 pm »

Quote from: peekama
Also, one of my champions is wearing greaves on his arms instead of gauntlets...

Hat goes on foot?
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SombreChapaeu

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Re: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2008, 06:25:14 am »

how many wrestlers do you have? what I'm saying is put all the wrestlers on duty so only weapon dwarves are left. cause when grappled wrestling gets you freed.
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Robbox

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Re: I do not want wrestlers, cut that out!
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2008, 02:58:43 am »

I used to have problems like this a lot when I trained my dwarves in wrestling before marks.  They just seem to love to rip off random pieces of clothing and beat people with them until their dying breath.

Imagine it, Urist McWrestler is dying slowly of old age on his bed.  He bids fond farewells to all his little Mcwrestlers and as he slowly passes..... finally drops the damn shoe he beat seven goblins to death with.

Then if your lucky the owner (if still alive) will come back and pick the damn thing up.

Seriously though, I had some success marking items for dumping.  The real trick is figuring out what is theirs and what belongs to their victim.
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