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[Hague]

Personally, I believe that there shouldn't be any liberal police. However, when society is liberal the police will begrudgingly accept moderates into their ranks. These moderates can do what the liberal police do and mediate. When they overcome their target the target becomes moderate and gives up their fight.

[EuchreJack]

The main problem with the idea of only keeping the brainwashed in the police station is the same that exists with only keeping the illegals in the police station:

What if they are captured by the cops at the end of the month?  Suddenly, your elite liberal soldier is gone, sometimes in a single day.

I propose both groups get sent to prison after the police station, for simplicity sake. 

After all, illegal aliens usually take a while to process before being sent out of the country.  Also, even though the deprogramming of the brainwashed citizens probably is swift, it's gonna take a while before the conservatives trust them enough to re-admit them to society, plus all the paperwork due to their crimes needs to be cleared up.  Finally, both groups are going to be pressured to provide as much information on LCS activities as they can, which takes time.

What might be more accurate is send the Brainwashed to the Genetic Labs for deprogramming and study, and sending the illegals to the Army Base for holding and brutal interrogations on LCS activities.

[mainiac]

Wisdom attacks already strip away juice before affecting Wisdom, so if L+ Police went to being just damaging juice and conversion at 0, it would make them super powerful.

You'd still be able to rescue them from the rehabilitation center, whereas typically they'd be gone unless you converted them back on the spot.  Or you could make their attacks slightly easier to resist.  But also, don't we want the endgame to be harder?

[E. Albright]

Actually, what I'd like to see Liberal (or Moderate) cops in L+ society do is damage juice until it hits zero, at which point the target doesn't convert, they surrender. The problem is, since this is in a firefight, the LCS might very well kill all the police, so it would be bad if the surrendered LCS members vanished immediately to jail. It'd be more programming to implement, but if they could be be "stunned" either until combat ends (i.e., they're restrained upon surrendering) or for X rounds (after which time, should the fight still be going, they figure the cops are losing, so sweet talking mediator or no, they're going to start fighting back again (until and unless the mediator "restrains" them once more)). Or I suppose the mediator who "talked them down" could vanish out of combat with them, much as tackling cops do in a footchase.

(People with 0 Juice should surrender to L+ police upon being politely asked to, as they haven't been instilled with enough Liberal revolutionary values to buck the L+ social norms. This whole discussion makes me think of the scene in Demolition Man where the futuristic police first attempt to recapture Wesley Snipes' character...)

[AlBorland]

Kind of an obscure bug I'm running into.  I'm unable to activate my lawyer with a broken neck.

In case it matters, I recruited him by meeting him at a site as a conservative, breaking his neck with a kick in the head, kidnapped him, converted him to a sleeper, and called him into the active squad and stole him a wheelchair.  Now having him do any actions from the (a) menu crash the game.

[Skeeblix]

That's definitely an amusing one. 

[Little]

I think there's a few bugs connected to Graffiti.

[Jonathan S. Fox]

Could you be more specific about the graffiti bugs? That's a little too vague for me to do anything about.

[Earthquake Damage]

I'm struggling to start out in this version.  Even with a pure E character, it takes easily a week to recruit a hippie, I can't find any safe way to juice up (the best I've found is stealing from garment makers, yielding a mere 1 juice per item), and I've been gunned down twice for minor infractions.

On a side note, why does theft raise suspicion but not get you shot by random armed tenants, while trying to break down a door (when nobody's around to see it) will get you shot by everyone you meet?

[mainiac]

What version were you playing last?  Recruitment taking a week is not surprising.  Only ultra persuasive characters can insta-recruit.

Safe and slow ways to gain juice include activism and community service which can get you up to 20 juice without risk of life or limb.

[Tanase]

I found a quick run around the park and other such venues with a can of spray paint in hand bolsters my juice like no other. Quick, easy, and repeatable for the most part.

That aside, I'm terrible at this game. I wish there was a way to remove unwanted members from the LCS, but that's only because I'm picky and don't want my ranks filled with drug addicts, hippies, and converted kidnappings that took too long to become sleepers.

[mainiac]

I set my extra's to fundraising myself but I hear naked attacks on the police are popular as a means of disposal.

[Think0028]

For unwanted members, I just set them all to writing to newspapers. Mainly because then they don't get arrested if I forget to put clothes on them.

As for my early game strategy, I just cruise in the apartments and try to get as many people as I can to talk about the issues. Once I've built up about 10 or so by luck and chance, I sit still for a week or so and just keep talking to them. Huge Persuasion buildup.

For juice, I build up Disguise next and raid the jury room in the courthouse repeatedly.

[penguinofhonor]

So teenagers aren't allowed in the Gentleman's Club. That makes sense.

The problem is that the bouncer says that they're violating the dress code, even when they're wearing an expensive suit.

[Neonivek]

So teenagers aren't allowed in the Gentleman's Club. That makes sense.

The problem is that the bouncer says that they're violating the dress code, even when they're wearing an expensive suit.

Simple you forgot your horned hat!