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Jonathan S. Fox

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Re: New character creation choices (game mechanic spoilers)
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2008, 04:11:51 am »

I think I fixed two grammar issues after posting this, but any issues you notice, you're welcome to post. I won't be offended. :'( Well, maybe if you call me an idiot or something, but that would be random.

More options are always fun. Were you thinking an F category? Or maybe more questions, spreading the gains out over more questions, or even randomly picking some of the questions from a set of possible questions, a la ADOM? Another possibility would be to have multiple possible options for each of the displayed options, and (for example) it randomly picks which of the A-track options to display for this question; that way, you don't always get the same choices to make, and two A builds won't be identical, though they will be similar in overall emphasis. Regardless, if anyone wants to think up more options, that would be cool. One possibility would be a vegan health nut track? A former conservative track, granting wisdom for some other bonuses? I dunno, I'm making this up. :P
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Re: New character creation choices (game mechanic spoilers)
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2008, 10:40:41 am »

I really like the making out line, I think it gives exactly the wrenching effect you shoot for.

IMHO, your founder starting with some wisdom is a bad handicap.  Not much damage it can do and juice gain will probably make it disappear pretty quickly anywho.

I thought up a possible new "birthday presents for me" option.  The founder "stayed up late that night printing the first edition of my underground newspaper." which would give you a free printing press.
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Re: New character creation choices (game mechanic spoilers)
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2008, 01:23:03 pm »

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A former conservative track, granting wisdom for some other bonuses?

Possibly a former Conservative Crime Squad member, disillusioned by the results of Conservatism and deciding instead to undo it in the only way he knows how?

Beniefts could be having some more free sleepers. And the cons would likely be having a criminal track record already, meaning you are already on the run?
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Re: New character creation choices (game mechanic spoilers)
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2008, 04:13:25 pm »

The problem with the "former conservative" angle is that it's pretty much predicated on a fixed full background, whereas all the other "archetypes" are built up piecemeal. Now, if we can have a "wavering conservative" track ("F" seems appropriate, given LCS's demonstrated Liberal bias  ;)), that might work, and could allow for some serious diversity of skills if you were picking and choosing your founder rather than just holding down one key ("Things were getting really bad when I got sent to military school for a year" [+1 Wis, -1 Heart, +2 Tactics] or somesuch).

Also, I'm not sure someone who just "turned traitor" would necessarily have sleepers. If there was some non-sympathetic pseudomember status like "contact" that could be used to purchase/acquire goods or information from, that'd be one thing. But I can't see former conservative comrad- erm, compatriots working covertly to advance the Liberal agenda.

The idea of such an archetype is definitely worth considering, though.
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Re: New character creation choices (game mechanic spoilers)
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2008, 04:45:53 pm »

Well, the idea is, that if you were a former Conservative, you already has some contacts within society, which would be represented as Sleepers. Maybe there can be a new "sleeper" known as "Conservative Crime Squad Cell" (or something similar to that), that you can only get if you choose the "wavering conservative" track. The Cell cannot join up with the LCS, and cannot advocate liberalism, but they can assist you by leaking important information and sending you goods.
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Re: New character creation choices (game mechanic spoilers)
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2008, 04:47:31 pm »

Crazy idea, but you could take that military school idea further. >_> You could have an option to enlist in the Army on 18th Birthday. If that were the case, it would mean that for the past few years I've been fighting a war overseas. It may not be Iraq or Afghanistan specifically, since the "immediate present" for LCS is an alternate history United States, but it would be something similar, as the in-game timing is perfect.
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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2008, 05:09:02 pm »

That does sound interesting. To add to the madness; how about it gives you a bonus to health and "rifle", an army bodyarmor, and a somewhat frightening chance of starting out with a permanent injury? 'twould be a gamble, but to win anything you have to risk something.
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Re: New character creation choices (game mechanic spoilers)
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2008, 06:26:02 pm »

How about instead of CSS contacts, the ex-con(servative) founder has contacts among the mercenaries?  Converting to liberalism would probably mean loosing ties with those devoted to conservatism but arms dealers and mercenaries tend not to care about what banner you fight under so long as you've got good money.

Also, if the founder is joining the military, how about doing so under a false age as in "...I lied about my age so I could join the marines.  Really I was sixteen but I needed to get away."

We keep thinking up new archtypes.  Is it possible for there to be too many different archtypes?
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Re: New character creation choices (game mechanic spoilers)
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2008, 06:34:06 pm »

I suggested the CCS contact because I was seeing how it could be easily implemented within the game, to save Fox time.

How about...you no longer need an Car to drive to the Black Market? Due to your previous contacts with mercs.
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Re: New character creation choices (game mechanic spoilers)
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2008, 06:39:27 pm »

There's already merc sleepers in the game, they work at the corporate HQ and can warn you about corporation sieges.
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Re: New character creation choices (game mechanic spoilers)
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2008, 07:12:33 pm »

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There's already merc sleepers in the game, they work at the corporate HQ and can warn you about corporation sieges.

Oh. I didn't know that. Okay, so your idea is okay too.
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Re: New character creation choices (game mechanic spoilers)
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2008, 07:57:40 pm »

Another possibility would be to have multiple possible options for each of the displayed options, and (for example) it randomly picks which of the A-track options to display for this question; that way, you don't always get the same choices to make, and two A builds won't be identical, though they will be similar in overall emphasis. Regardless, if anyone wants to think up more options, that would be cool. One possibility would be a vegan health nut track? A former conservative track, granting wisdom for some other bonuses? I dunno, I'm making this up. :P

The multiple choice thing.

It'd be cool to have options with different effects depending on what you've already chosen. Like, if at 14, 'you broke into lockers and was into rock music' or 'I started a gang, but my best friend sold me out' you could have a military option?
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Re: New character creation choices (game mechanic spoilers)
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2008, 10:26:43 pm »

Some new questions I came up with. They deal in the high school age.

Whenever there was a party in high school I:
A)Picked someone up and slept with them in a bedroom(+2 Seduction, +1 Charisma)
B)Hung out with the crackheads and drunks(+1 Hth, +1 First Aid)
C)Showed off my latest gizmo(+1 Computer, +1 Int)
D)Hosted the shindig(+1 Leadership, +2 Cooking)
E)Got drunk then fought people with knives(+1 Agility, +2 Knife)

The first girl I dated was: 
A)A total prep. Her friends mocked me endlessly(+2 Disguise, +2 Cha, +2 Wis)
B)Plain ugly. I pitied her(+2 Art, +1 Hrt)
C)From a real uptight family. I had to work her to get what I wanted(+2 Interrogation, +1 Seduction)
D)A real jock. We exercised together a lot(+1 Str, +3 Martial Arts)
E)A biker chick(+1 Agility, +3 Improv Weapons)

If a teacher assigned a big project due in a week I:
A) Did it right away. I didn't want to fall behind(+1 Int, +2 Writing)
B)Tried to get in the teachers head to get the most marks(+2 Teaching, +1 Int)
C)Tried to copy from something online(+2 Computer, +1 Disguise)
D)Forced a geek to do it for me(+1 Strength, +1 Martial Arts)
E)Didn't bother and tried to avoid the backlash (+2 Stealth, +1 Hth)

My favorite class in high school was:
A)Nutrition and Cooking(+3 Cooking, +1 Hth)
B)Music (+2 Music, +1 Hrt)
C)Creative Writing (+2 Writing, +1 Int)
D)Law(+2 Law, +2 Persuasion)
E)Spare. I did what I liked (+2 Random skill, +1 Random Attribute)

Of course, these are just rough drafts.


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Re: New character creation choices (game mechanic spoilers)
« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2008, 10:39:51 pm »

The questions are supposed to be traumatic moments from the life of a budding iconclast, not teen drama!  ;D
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Re: New character creation choices (game mechanic spoilers)
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2008, 01:32:31 am »

The questions are supposed to be traumatic moments from the life of a budding iconclast, not teen drama!  ;D

Indeed!  ;D

Maybe, "My first experience with a revolutionary movement" or something?
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