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Author Topic: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old.  (Read 2975 times)

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Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old.
« on: November 15, 2008, 10:55:09 pm »
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Re: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old.
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2008, 11:09:37 pm »
Already been suggested several times before, and I know at least once before by me.
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Re: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old.
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 08:40:33 am »
Why? In nature, cliffs are almost always caused by wind or water erosion, not by the natural layout of rock layers. Plus, I don't want to go and try to navigate throgh an impossible maze of cliffs with my adventurers who try to look through some mountain crags.


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Re: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old.
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 08:49:43 am »
Quote from: TrombonistAndrew on November 17, 2008, 08:40:33 am
Why? In nature, cliffs are almost always caused by wind or water erosion, not by the natural layout of rock layers.

So? Regardless of how, the fact is, they exist.

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Plus, I don't want to go and try to navigate throgh an impossible maze of cliffs with my adventurers who try to look through some mountain crags.

So don't use it. Other people want their cliffside fortresses.
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Re: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old.
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2008, 09:11:33 am »
To my knowledge Toady is waiting until he has climbing programmed in before he does this.
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Re: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old.
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2008, 09:27:02 am »
Quote from: Neonivek on November 17, 2008, 09:11:33 am
To my knowledge Toady is waiting until he has climbing programmed in before he does this.

Why not go ahead and program it as an option - I mean, he's got _flying_ programmed in right now.
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Re: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old.
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 01:36:59 pm »
Because cliffs break roads as they currently exist, and the roads are REQUIRED for the army arc he's working towards.  Adding this back in would negate the purpose of taking them out, which was to be able to work in the direction of getting armies.  Yes, it won't be any time soon that we actually GET the armies, but without cliffs, we'll get them someday.  With them coded, we won't.
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Re: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2008, 05:09:35 pm »
I'm considering downloading an old version to gen a few worlds.
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Re: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old.
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2008, 08:32:05 pm »
I'm pretty sure there's already a parameter. Yeah.

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[PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1] (from world_gen.txt)

Set that to 0, and you're good. (You can do this in-game as well.)
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Re: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old.
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2008, 08:44:53 pm »
It would be nice if there was an option that aggressively eroded cliffs in a few spots and left them intact in others -- just enough for the roads to get up into the mountains.
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Re: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2008, 10:10:18 pm »
Quote from: Cavalcadeofcats on November 17, 2008, 08:32:05 pm
I'm pretty sure there's already a parameter. Yeah.

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   [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1] (from world_gen.txt)

Set that to 0, and you're good. (You can do this in-game as well.)

I noticed that. It doesn't work. Well, technically, it DOES work, but it does some other thing.
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Re: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old.
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2008, 10:00:27 am »
Quote from: Footkerchief on November 17, 2008, 08:44:53 pm
It would be nice if there was an option that aggressively eroded cliffs in a few spots and left them intact in others -- just enough for the roads to get up into the mountains.

I think that's the eventual plan...
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Re: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old.
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2008, 07:30:15 pm »
i don't know about completely flat, but turning down the erosion creates much more vertical/ craggy cliffs.
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Re: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old.
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2008, 03:22:22 am »
If a cliff breaks a road then make a bridge. It's not that hard to code.
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Re: Worldgen parameter to allow completely vertical cliffs, like the days of old.
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2008, 03:41:44 am »
Quote from: vooood on November 19, 2008, 03:22:22 am
If a cliff breaks a road then make a bridge. It's not that hard to code.

It would be pretty bizarre to have gigantic stone bridges soaring everywhere.  Historically, even building bridges over rivers has been a difficult task. 
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