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firecrystal

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What happened to cliffs anyway?
« on: November 15, 2008, 07:28:46 pm »
There are no cliffs anymore. While this makes adventure mode easier, it makes for less impressive landscape, especially as I sit here comparing my fortress in this version to the epic one I started in a previous one, which had a 27-z canyon and a giant eagle hovering maybe 10 above that, watching carefully for delicious elves.
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Re: What happened to cliffs anyway?
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2008, 07:31:09 pm »
Change max/min elevation, reduce errosion and probably something more.
Someone experienced with the parameters will probably help you
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Re: What happened to cliffs anyway?
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2008, 07:36:02 pm »

 The rich conservative oil giants caused some climate change, which slowly killed off the extreme cliffs. They later hunted endangered Giant Eagles on the now smooth cliffs.

 But in seriousness, you can check on embark. Although I have never tested if it shows straight cliffs or just relative elevation(Difference between the lowest tile of land and the highest.)
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Re: What happened to cliffs anyway?
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2008, 07:41:55 pm »
I've made hundreds of worlds and I've yet to see an actual straight-edge old-style cliff that wasn't part of a water-related formation like a waterfall or ocean edge, regardless of what world gen parameters I've used.
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Re: What happened to cliffs anyway?
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2008, 08:55:19 pm »
I think Toady had to take them out to allow for historical events. Something about making it so the entities could get to other sites, I think. I miss 'em.
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Re: What happened to cliffs anyway?
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2008, 09:13:58 pm »
Chasms!
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Re: What happened to cliffs anyway?
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2008, 09:21:29 pm »
I also like it as it is now.
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Re: What happened to cliffs anyway?
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2008, 09:35:34 pm »
I've tried quite a bit to make steep cliffs like days of old, with no success.

Changing any world parameters doesn't help. Checking elevation/cliff indicator on world view mode doesn't work (high cliff indicator only seems to indicate how high the ground goes, so yeah, the same as elevation).

The only ways I've found are either get an open chasm (or open it yourself...) or be lucky enough to get a river cutting through some hills. The ground either side and above the river will always be without ramps. Oh and sometimes capped volcanos can produce a small patch of unramped areas.
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Re: What happened to cliffs anyway?
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2008, 11:32:58 pm »
Just make one yourself.
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Re: What happened to cliffs anyway?
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2008, 11:40:48 pm »
Quote from: Boogerman on November 15, 2008, 11:32:58 pm
Just make one yourself.

this man is thinking like a dwarf.

those cliffs are still there, they are just hidden under mounds of dirt and rock.

YOU MUST FREE THE CLIFFS.
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Re: What happened to cliffs anyway?
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2008, 12:46:44 am »
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Re: What happened to cliffs anyway?
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2008, 04:22:16 am »
Quote from: Christes on November 16, 2008, 12:46:44 am
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=20656.0

Hey look, someone referenced my thread. I feel all special inside.

For the record, I made that thread before I realised it wasn't a bug that there were no cliffs. And there's no other useful information regarding how to find them there than there is here (that I posted at least).

Oh and yeah. Best way is to carve cliffs out of the very mountains themselves.
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