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Dragooble

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dwarven play now
« on: November 08, 2008, 06:45:58 pm »

how do i make it so i can be a dwarf with the play now! option?
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Re: dwarven play now
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2008, 06:49:12 pm »

[ADVENTURE_TIER:x] (I think, it's in the humans) in the entity definition, and replace x with a number that none of the other entities with that tag are using.
It might be possible to use the same number, but I don't suggest it.DO NOT USE THE SAME NUMBER AS ANOTHER ENTITY DEFINITION.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2008, 06:50:59 pm by jaybud4 »
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Re: dwarven play now
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2008, 06:52:26 pm »

[ADVENTURE_TIER:x] (I think, it's in the humans) in the entity definition, and replace x with a number that none of the other entities with that tag are using.
It might be possible to use the same number, but I don't suggest it.DO NOT USE THE SAME NUMBER AS ANOTHER ENTITY DEFINITION.
It's actually [INDIV_CONTROLLABLE], dwarves already have Adventure_Tier
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Re: dwarven play now
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2008, 06:54:33 pm »

[ADVENTURE_TIER:x] (I think, it's in the humans) in the entity definition, and replace x with a number that none of the other entities with that tag are using.
It might be possible to use the same number, but I don't suggest it.DO NOT USE THE SAME NUMBER AS ANOTHER ENTITY DEFINITION.
It's actually [INDIV_CONTROLLABLE], dwarves already have Adventure_Tier
Last I checked, though, [CIV_CONTROLLABLE] which they already have implies [INDIV_CONTROLLABLE]

..Without INDIV_CONTROLLABLE, they can't be used at all, and we're talking the Play Now! thing which is actually governed by ADVENTURE_TIER, not INDIV_CONTROLLABLE.
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Re: dwarven play now
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2008, 06:58:11 pm »

[ADVENTURE_TIER:x] (I think, it's in the humans) in the entity definition, and replace x with a number that none of the other entities with that tag are using.
It might be possible to use the same number, but I don't suggest it.DO NOT USE THE SAME NUMBER AS ANOTHER ENTITY DEFINITION.
It's actually [INDIV_CONTROLLABLE], dwarves already have Adventure_Tier
Last I checked, though, [CIV_CONTROLLABLE] which they already have implies [INDIV_CONTROLLABLE]

..Without INDIV_CONTROLLABLE, they can't be used at all, and we're talking the Play Now! thing which is actually governed by ADVENTURE_TIER, not INDIV_CONTROLLABLE.
CIV_CONTROLLABLE doesn't imply INDIV_CONTROLLABLE and neither does ADVENTURE_TIER. Both according to the wiki and my own experiences with modding. However, whether you need ADVENTURE_TIER to have INDIV_CONTROLLABLE I don't know, but it doesn't hurt to have both.
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Re: dwarven play now
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2008, 07:02:39 pm »

If neither CIV_CONTROLLABLE or ADVENTURE_TIER imply INDIV_CONTROLLABLE, wouldn't it be impossible to play as the dwarves in Adventure Mode?
INDIV_CONTROLLABLE is what defines their ability to be played in adventure.  Without it, you can't play as them.  Period.
...As far as I know.
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Re: dwarven play now
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2008, 07:11:46 pm »

If neither CIV_CONTROLLABLE or ADVENTURE_TIER imply INDIV_CONTROLLABLE, wouldn't it be impossible to play as the dwarves in Adventure Mode?
INDIV_CONTROLLABLE is what defines their ability to be played in adventure.  Without it, you can't play as them.  Period.
...As far as I know.
They currently have CIV_CONTROLLABLE and ADVENTURE_TIER:3 but no INDIV_CONTROLLABLE, they can adventure but with no "play now" option.
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Re: dwarven play now
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2008, 08:25:30 pm »

yeah. i figured out adding the indiv_controllable tag gives you the play now option.
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Re: dwarven play now
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2008, 08:45:36 pm »

If neither CIV_CONTROLLABLE or ADVENTURE_TIER imply INDIV_CONTROLLABLE, wouldn't it be impossible to play as the dwarves in Adventure Mode?
INDIV_CONTROLLABLE is what defines their ability to be played in adventure.  Without it, you can't play as them.  Period.
...As far as I know.

Adventure Tier organises the adventurers by entity. This allows access to weapons and armour available to the entity. Civ_controllable is purely related to fortress mode.
Indiv controllable makes it possible to play a creature unaffiliated with any entity. Because of this they get no weapons or armour or skills, and they generally start in the middle of nowhere.
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Re: dwarven play now
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2008, 12:56:33 pm »

The indiv_controllable tag is what makes you start as a human at an old dwarf fortress site of yours with no armour/weps.

I havent tested whether you need adventure_tier as well but it's safer to have it as well.

So... to be on the safe side remove the indiv_controllable tag from the human entity block and put it on the dwarven one.

Thats it - try it without genning a new world.
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Re: dwarven play now
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2008, 05:44:29 pm »

i have already achieved getting the play now option for dwarves by adding the indiv_controllable tag to dwarves. also you dont need to remove said tag from humans to do so.
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