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[Ivefan]

I DID see a dungeon filled entirely with mines, which I suppose you can use to train disarm trap. I wouldn't recommend it though, since one slip and the mines can deal over 400 damage through 270 PV.

Sounds like fun, in the dwarfy way.

Now i just have to dominate some Quicklings or silver bells and find some potions of descent, damn that's an elusive potion.

[Jookia]

Where do I  downloaded non-screwed elona?

[Jack_Bread]

From Elona's main page.
It probably messed up somewhere while you were originally downloading it.

[Jookia]

I downloaded it twice.

[Virroken]

Holy crap, guys. I can almost take on Loyter the Crimson. 300 PV, cut damage armor, and a nullify damage+ shield is enough to bring his damage to a <10 level. Now I just need to find a fat enough elemental sword to actually deal damage.

[Blaze]

.. OR you can stand there and throw cursed bottles of beer at him until he starves to death.

[beorn080]

Seriously Vir, there are always multiple ways to deal with NPCs. In this case, you would have to acquire ragnarok, then LETS RAGNAROK near loyter. Problem solved.  Now you just need to deal with all the other problems. For that, I recommend more LETS RAGNAROK. It pretty much solves everything.

[Ivefan]

Seriously Vir, there are always multiple ways to deal with NPCs. In this case, you would have to acquire ragnarok, then LETS RAGNAROK near loyter. Problem solved.  Now you just need to deal with all the other problems. For that, I recommend more LETS RAGNAROK. It pretty much solves everything.

In DF Terms: Pull the "fuck the world" levler and watch it succumb in magma.

Oh, and does anyone know for how long well wishes are limited? All the 'strokes of luck gone by' makes me sad.

[Virroken]

How does I survive said magma flood and collect phat loot and figures afterwards?

[Zangi]

I usually don't drink from wells/fountains until past 10k turns since my last wish.

I'm not really keeping count.  Just wait long time.  If 10k doesn't work, probably 15k-20k...  cause thats about when I randomly start thinking, "time to get me a wish!"

[Ivefan]

Can't say i remember exactly when i got my last one, but atleast one year, probably more, ingame time has passed and a lot of turns. Last wish was at lvl 11, now im 21.

Vir, running like hell combined with teleports and whatever you can get to survive the assumed dragon's breath would probably do. Just hope that Loyter kills enough of them before succumbing.

[Virroken]

But I can almost kill Loyter. Wouldn't it be easier to just find a fatter weapon? (Or bring buddies with debuffs and fat weapons?)

[Tradanbattlan]

Pianist player here.
Nope.

[Ivefan]

more like grinding for platinum coins and abusing mechanics is a part of rougelikes =P

Casting = % success. Power = grind the spell, you train the spells.
It's easy to get guild skills, all you need is a wand of teleport and a spell/scroll of incognito.
Zap the guy on the stairs with the wand, go down and cast incognito then find the trainer.


Vir, you asked how to get through ragnarok, but yes, you could go get a weapon so... Got small medals? go buy Diablo.

[Virroken]

Update on the Loyter issue. I just got a fatter darkness [####] sword and took on the Vernis-Loyter instead of party-Loyter. I ended up just spamming potions and rods while he bled away on my armor. The dungeon cleaner got involved after stepping in a puddle of acid, but it turns out he can't get past 300PV. They dropped useless miracle claymores and engagement rings.

Also, Naxza, don't play casters. They blow ridiculously hard. Damage multipliers with the physical weapons are the only way to scale your damage to meet the HP you have to chew through later on.