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InsanityPrelude

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[40d] No wild creatures around reclaimed fortress
« on: November 06, 2008, 11:27:47 pm »

... The title says it, really. I reclaimed a fortress I lost previously to a massive tantrum spiral, and since then I've noticed a severe lack of wildlife. My hunters just sit around and do nothing, my fisherdorfs keep reporting "There is nothing to catch in the [blank]", and even after uncovering the magma vent there haven't been any problems with fire imps/men.
I just looked at the unit list, and nope, the only animals (even dead ones) showing up are my own.

No modifications to raws, so it's not some sort of mod weirdness.
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Re: [40d] No wild creatures around reclaimed fortress
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2008, 01:05:35 am »

Oh well. Time to farm Elves.
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Re: [40d] No wild creatures around reclaimed fortress
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2008, 01:25:32 am »

you always arrive in the following spring, so if the fortress already lacked animals, then there shouldn't be any on arrival
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Re: [40d] No wild creatures around reclaimed fortress
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2008, 03:39:22 pm »

I think you need to swing by in adventure mode to get animals to respawn if you had depleted the biome.
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Re: [40d] No wild creatures around reclaimed fortress
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2008, 11:37:39 pm »

Thanks. That wouldn't explain the lack of magma creatures, since I hadn't uncovered the vent before I reclaimed, but I can try that.
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Re: [40d] No wild creatures around reclaimed fortress
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2009, 09:49:28 pm »

Since this is the same bug and version, I'll resurrect this thread.

Same issue. I had a nasty encounter with a fire imp who fried the world attacking a thief, and had to reclaim. After I did, EVERY creature on the map was gone. Every chasm critter, every magma pipe critter, and, as far as I can tell, every critter in the underground river I haven't found yet. Before the reclaim I'd get the usual spam of dead UGR critters in the deceased screen.

So far, nothing has respawned, either. Hasn't been quite a year yet, but even if I start seeing normal wildlife again I know I won't get any more cave critters. Shame, too, since there was a whole nest of ratmen I intended on capturing.
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Re: [40d] No wild creatures around reclaimed fortress
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 06:12:06 pm »

Found this thread again while searching for the same problem... lost a fort to orcs and there were no animals on reclaim, even though there had been loads previously.

Sounds like a legitimate bug.
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Re: [40d] No wild creatures around reclaimed fortress
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2009, 08:34:29 pm »

For the record, what is the intended behavior in this situation?

I seem to have the exact opposite thing happen; when I reclaim, it will add all the animals that were originally on the map regardless of how many are left. For instance, if I abandon and reclaim five times in a row, there would be 18 fire imps in the magma pipe, assuming I didn't kill any.
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Re: [40d] No wild creatures around reclaimed fortress
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2009, 01:54:26 am »

I believe the problem they're referring to is that no wildlife gets spawned -- the wandering camels, wolves, harpies, polar bears, whales, and so on that your hunters go after and that can therefore be a significant source of meat and leather.

Creatures that are onsite at the time of abandon tend to stick around, and from what you're saying, it sounds like local features like magma pipes (and possibly chasms, underground water, and so on?) also regenerate their creatures when you re-embark. That would explain the multiple fire imps.
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Re: [40d] No wild creatures around reclaimed fortress
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2009, 12:39:07 pm »

Similar to a bug I once had, only I never reclaimed.

http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=28892.msg369796#msg369796
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Re: [40d] No wild creatures around reclaimed fortress
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2009, 09:00:13 am »

I abandoned my fortress, then start reclaiming it, but on preparation screen aborted game. Next time I tried, number of embarking dwarfs decreased and wildlife disappeared. I also've got friendly goblins, left after ambush, though don't know whether it is bug or not.
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