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[MoonLightBird]

Just a quick question. How long does it take for orcs to starve to death? I got a bunch locked in a room and Im waiting for them to die to get their shit.

[Sphalerite]

Invaders never starve.  Your dwarves are the only thing that needs to eat.

[Poojawa]

Alright, been playing the mod, but as it's really the first time for mass seiges, I've kept invaders off till I was established.

Hmmm.. though i think my dual watchtowers packed with 10 marksdwarves in 'em each and hammer/axe/mace lords could take 'em

With full steel .

Turn 'em on, first seige came about 3 months later, as well as an ambush of Monkeys....

And the marksmen cut them aaaaaall down... shooting up a mountian, so 80% or so of all the bolts were retrievable.

can't wait for more though

[Micro102]

I downloaded the stuff, but i don't know where to put them i found similiar creature/entiity files and put the orc creature and entity files next to those, but what do i do with the launguage file?

do i delete the old entity default file?

[Rysith]

I downloaded the stuff, but i don't know where to put them i found similiar creature/entiity files and put the orc creature and entity files next to those, but what do i do with the launguage file?

do i delete the old entity default file?

No, you should be able to just copy the orc files in without touching any of the rest of your files.

Alright, been playing the mod, but as it's really the first time for mass seiges, I've kept invaders off till I was established.

And the marksmen cut them aaaaaall down... shooting up a mountian, so 80% or so of all the bolts were retrievable.

Well, yes. Sufficiently powerful dwarves can take on entire orc sieges naked*. The trick is getting there with orcs showing up twice a year from the beginning. Groups of armored and trained dwarves tend to be able to take on orcs on equal footing, and six of so steel armored/weaponed dwarves can take on entire sieges. I'm hoping that next version I'll have the ability to get finer control over how skilled invaders are, and what quality their weapons/armor are, since (as the civ leaders show) that's really what's holding them back from challenging a late-game mature fortress. That and the current status of traps, drawbridges, and constructed walls.

*do not attempt except for large values of "sufficiently powerful".

[Lord Shonus]

What tags would I have to change around to reverse Orcs and goblins? I'd like the goblins to swarm early ant the orcs to show up later.

[The Architect]

So, I wanted to congratulate the creator on what is probably the most popular mod of all, and one which has been included in many mods since its release.

Second, I have a question and a hugely entertaining story. The story first, which contains spoilers:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I found a garnierite vein, and so lacking iron and desiring to fool around with magma, I followed it! I dug it out carefully, down to the last little bit... where I ran right into SoF HFS! Without ever seeing or touching adamantine, but in fact following another metal! Of course I immediately made garnierite non-economic, turned that miner into a mason, and built myself a barricade. Nothing escaped.

Now, inside of that HFS were all of the races, including orcs. Chained, caged, and spiked, as usual. However, a most remarkable thing happened!! One of the chained orcs killed the Demon when he came to butcher it! HAHA! Orcs are so badass. My engravers etc have been talking about the release of xxxx the Demon in 203 by careless miners ever since, even though no dwarf ever saw him!

The question: I have heard orcs come riding wolf spiders at some point, and that it should amp up the difficulty for my goofing off, and give me something to have a lot of fun with if I manage to capture one. The problem is that I'm at 28 million in my 7th year with 143 dwarves (capped it at 130, then had kiddies) and all I am getting is the occasional local leader. Whats up? Am I missing something?

[Xanares]

He he nice one Architect! 

24 mil in 7 years? How the devil?

I think you only get the spiders and war elephants if you had them in the raws at game start and if they are in the areas the orcs attack from. Not 100% sure on that last one though.

[Micro102]

Ok i just downloaded orcs several times, and am gwtting the message "One of the compressed files on disk has errors in it. Restore from backup if you are able."

It's not corrupted downloads so what is it?

EDIT: The source seems to be the language file... anyone know of anything? PLZ!

[Rysith]

What tags would I have to change around to reverse Orcs and goblins? I'd like the goblins to swarm early ant the orcs to show up later.

In raw/objects/entity_default.txt, find the section for [ENTITY:EVIL], and change (spoilered for size)

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[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POPULATION:2]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_PRODUCTION:2]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:2]
to

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[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POPULATION:1]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_PRODUCTION:1]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:1]


Then, in entity_orc.txt you'll find a similar section, change those progress triggers to 2 each.

The question: I have heard orcs come riding wolf spiders at some point, and that it should amp up the difficulty for my goofing off, and give me something to have a lot of fun with if I manage to capture one. The problem is that I'm at 28 million in my 7th year with 143 dwarves (capped it at 130, then had kiddies) and all I am getting is the occasional local leader. Whats up? Am I missing something?

Wolf spiders are like beak dogs, the orcs use them as mounts if there are wolf spiders near any of their fortresses. Dire Wolves from from shrubland, moderate and cold forests, and tundra. Wolf spiders come from evil forests. Elephants come from jungles and tropical shrubland. Thus, you're much more likely to see mounted orcs (since beakdogs came only from evil swamps, which aren't common at all), but you're not guaranteed spiders. If you haven't seen any mounts yet, then your orcs probably don't have any of those nearby. Solutions include increasing the number of evil squares on future maps, as well as decreasing the number of civilizations and making the world gen longer (which gives each one more time and space to spread out in).

It's not corrupted downloads so what is it?

EDIT: The source seems to be the language file... anyone know of anything? PLZ!

I'm not sure what the problem is there. If it's just you, I can privately send you the language file. If it's a global thing, I could reupload the mod.

[Micro102]

Can someone download it and tell us if it's just me or not?

I also have a saved game so maybe that's it?

[The Architect]

If the mod hasn't been changed within two weeks then it is not global. If it has, then someone will have to reinstall it. Depending on the answer to that question I may do so to answer the question.

[NewoTigra]

Possibly derailing the topic here, but anyways;

I was reading through 'The Hobbit' again and I noticed how Tolkien himself refers to orcs in the book. According to him, basically, goblins, hobgoblins and orcs are interchangable, but usually used (in that order) to give quick reference to the size of the goblins.
i.e. Goblins were the smallest, maybe 4-5 feet, hobgoblins were around humanoid size, maybe 6-7 feet tall, and the bigger ones would be referred to as Orcs, probably 8+ feet.

T'was interesting to me

[Demolira]

Ok i just downloaded orcs several times, and am gwtting the message "One of the compressed files on disk has errors in it. Restore from backup if you are able."

It's not corrupted downloads so what is it?

EDIT: The source seems to be the language file... anyone know of anything? PLZ!

I just tried the mod, and got the same error.  I then discovered I placed the files in the Data/Objects directory, and not the Raw/Objects directory.  Once I fixed that, it worked for me.

[FaultyLogic]

It works fine for me. Except that my dwarves keep getting brutally murdered, what's up with that?