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Vattic

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Cats...
« on: November 01, 2008, 04:58:47 pm »

We all know the problem cats can cause when it comes to the performance of your fortress, unfortunately I have found out about it the hard way and I'm stuck with far too many.

Are there ways of simply removing the cats from an active game? I cant cage them and I cant slaughter them as my Dwarves love them...

Hope there is something I can do.

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Re: Cats...
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2008, 05:30:44 pm »

You can't completely remove cats without generating a new world, sadly.

However, you should be able to remove the [CHILD:1] and [CHILDNAME:kitten:kittens] tags, which should at least prevent new cats from spawning. You might not want to do this if you have any existing kittens.

Alternatively, you can remove the [VERMINHUNTER] token, which will prevent them from becoming pets until they all get eaten by goblins or whatever.


Or you could do both. It'll still take a while for them to all "accidentally" die off, even if it's not from natural causes.
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Re: Cats...
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2008, 05:32:58 pm »

Or you can remove their brains, causing them to die.  But this could lead to tantrums.
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Re: Cats...
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2008, 06:07:55 pm »

Or you can remove their brains, causing them to die.  But this could lead to tantrums.
But that just makes it an even better idea!  Or to make it totally awesome, give cats severonbreaks and set their body temperature to 100000 instead of removing their brains!
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Re: Cats...
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2008, 07:32:56 pm »

However, you should be able to remove the [CHILD:1] and [CHILDNAME:kitten:kittens] tags, which should at least prevent new cats from spawning. You might not want to do this if you have any existing kittens.
What problems might I encounter if I remove them while there are still kittens about?

Or you could do both. It'll still take a while for them to all "accidentally" die off, even if it's not from natural causes.
Luckily they are going after some fish in the local river and getting harmed, not often killed though and they get health care when they have owners no?

Or you can remove their brains, causing them to die.  But this could lead to tantrums.
But that just makes it an even better idea!  Or to make it totally awesome, give cats severonbreaks and set their body temperature to 100000 instead of removing their brains!

Removing brains? I don't have a Brain Surgeon Dwarf.. I would increase their body temperature but if I was to do that I might as well increase my dwarf's body temperatures at the same time..

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Re: Cats...
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2008, 08:51:36 pm »

I vote Kill it with fire!  Add [IGNITE_POINT:0] to cats.
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2008, 10:34:33 pm »

I vote Kill it with fire!  Add [IGNITE_POINT:0] to cats.
Oooh!  This is a good one!  Yeah, go with this.
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2008, 01:12:15 am »

I vote Kill it with fire!  Add [IGNITE_POINT:0] to cats.
Oooh!  This is a good one!  Yeah, go with this.
There is a reason why I call them the All-Purpose Animal, and like them the way they are;

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2008, 07:30:38 am »

The thing with the cat horde . . . don't they adopt dwarves too quickly for that to work?
And yeah, you've convinced me to (temporarily) remove radioactivity from cats.  It's just not as funny as that whole list combined >:D
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2008, 09:15:33 am »

The brain removal thing just makes them flash red + signs. it isn't an instant kill.
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Re: Cats...
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2008, 09:44:58 am »

However, you should be able to remove the [CHILD:1] and [CHILDNAME:kitten:kittens] tags, which should at least prevent new cats from spawning. You might not want to do this if you have any existing kittens.
What problems might I encounter if I remove them while there are still kittens about?

Well, those tags allow the existence of kittens. I'm not sure how flexible the game is in that regard; if you remove them while kittens still exist, the game MIGHT crash, but I haven't tested it. Try it and find out.
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2008, 10:34:05 am »

If you removed the prefstring from cats, would that not make it so dwarves could not like cats, and hence cats could not adopt dwarves, since they will only adopt a dwarf that likes them? I don't know what sort of affect that would have on an existing game, though.
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2008, 12:32:58 pm »

The thing with the cat horde . . . don't they adopt dwarves too quickly for that to work?
And yeah, you've convinced me to (temporarily) remove radioactivity from cats.  It's just not as funny as that whole list combined
Solution:

Build an array ( Column or Row ) of cages and fill them each with a lot of cats, and make sure that place is isolate ( via outwards opening bridge ) , THEN when it is D-Day, pull the lever and release the beasts.
Also make sure to have a trap array and a marksman tower near it so you can get those f-tards while they're being mauled by cats, and when your done haul, haul, haul, and kill the non-believers via an execution lever and fill in what it does.

Fact: when animal hauling they're immune to the cat yiffiness

Fact: When building an animal farm, make sure to make two consecutive layers of tightly closed double doors, followed by a 3x2 retracting bridge over a pit, which leads back into the stupid farm, let them yiff and seasonally clean out the spawn, and extras, into cages.

Fact: When you start out with animals, CAGE THEM AS FAST AS FUCKINGLY POSSIBLE, THEIR YIFF IS TOO POWERFUL!!!

Fact: Cats have saved me too many times to make into radioactive cats
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Re: Cats...
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2008, 06:58:09 pm »

If you removed the prefstring from cats, would that not make it so dwarves could not like cats, and hence cats could not adopt dwarves, since they will only adopt a dwarf that likes them? I don't know what sort of affect that would have on an existing game, though.
No, because the game acts of a script that acts like the following equation:
Preferences list = [NAME_CREATURE_PLURAL]+[(for their)x(prefstring)]
where if prefstring is nothing, "for their" will not show up, but the plural name will

Note that this just describes the script.
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Re: Cats...
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2008, 09:39:30 pm »

give them a realy short life span and make there children have only about maybe a year.

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[MAXAGE:2:2]
[CHILD:1][MULTIPLE_LITTER_RARE]

If they even survive world generation then theyed die of prety quickly around your fortress.
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