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Re: Your best artifact ever
« Reply #540 on: February 04, 2010, 06:56:54 am »

2. This artifact has a single image of itself on it, in the correct material. This is the artifact I've produced which has such an image.

The point is, even one self-image engraved results in an endless loop. Since it's got an image of itself on it, an image of it has the image of itself in the image.
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Re: Your best artifact ever
« Reply #541 on: February 04, 2010, 03:42:34 pm »

2. This artifact has a single image of itself on it, in the correct material. This is the artifact I've produced which has such an image.

The point is, even one self-image engraved results in an endless loop. Since it's got an image of itself on it, an image of it has the image of itself in the image.
And it means the maker had to know exactly what it would look like when it was completed.
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Re: Your best artifact ever
« Reply #542 on: February 04, 2010, 08:34:08 pm »


Humm, I reallllllly like this bed.  great name too.  Plus it's worth 24000!
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Re: Your best artifact ever
« Reply #543 on: February 04, 2010, 09:30:12 pm »

Lulz.

"You got us WHAT kind of bed to sleep on?!"

"But it was 24,000 dwarf bucks! I thought it HAD to be good quality with that kind of price!"
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Re: Your best artifact ever
« Reply #544 on: February 04, 2010, 11:08:50 pm »

"I figured the spikes were on the bottom!"

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Re: Your best artifact ever
« Reply #545 on: February 05, 2010, 02:13:54 am »

Litez Itat, "The Sorcerers of Chill", a Marble Harp. Sounds like Urist McBeatnik wanted to make some groovy tunes. "Chillax, you hip and groovy cats and kittens. I'm going to lay you out some smooth beats and cool melodies."
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Re: Your best artifact ever
« Reply #546 on: February 05, 2010, 02:18:59 am »

Hah! "Sorcerors of Chill" would make a great band.
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Re: Your best artifact ever
« Reply #547 on: February 05, 2010, 05:51:44 am »

"Chillax, you hip and groovy cats and kittens. I'm going to MAKE YOU INTO BISCUITS AND SOCKS!"

For some reason, the hippie movement never really took hold in dwarf society.
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Re: Your best artifact ever
« Reply #548 on: February 05, 2010, 09:57:18 am »

Quick question:

Is there a way to view your previous fort(s) artifacts in legends or something?

I recently abandoned my first fort, and had the urge to look over the artifacts again, but unfortunately when I abandoned I backed up the wrong save so I can't go back.

If not, no big deal, it was my first fort and nothing special, though I'd like to remind myself what "tempdedgrowls, the jet puzzlebox" that my new fort keeps engraving on the walls actually was. :P
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Re: Your best artifact ever
« Reply #549 on: February 05, 2010, 11:49:40 am »

You can view all previous artifacts in legends mode.
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« Reply #550 on: February 05, 2010, 09:05:17 pm »

You can view all previous artifacts in legends mode.

Ok I found where you can view some basic detail in legends mode, but am I right in assuming there's no way to get the full detail again without finding the item in adventurer mode or something? (The legends mode description tells me what it is, but not what images are on it or what materials it's made of).
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Re: Your best artifact ever
« Reply #551 on: February 06, 2010, 10:26:51 am »

You can view all previous artifacts in legends mode.

Ok I found where you can view some basic detail in legends mode, but am I right in assuming there's no way to get the full detail again without finding the item in adventurer mode or something? (The legends mode description tells me what it is, but not what images are on it or what materials it's made of).

Move the selection over the artifact and hit enter.
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« Reply #552 on: February 06, 2010, 03:39:23 pm »

Yes, I realize that much. But when I select the artifact in legends mode, it shows something like:

Twoblizzards the Illnesses of Righteousness was a legendary Fire agate cage.

In the late spring of 202, Twoblizzards the Illnesses of Righteousness was created in Lashedgrowls by the dwarf Kumil Peacefulgilt.


Whereas we are all familiar with the full description you get in Fortress mode.

I guess I'll have to do a reclaim on my first fort to see the full descriptions or something.
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Re: Your best artifact ever
« Reply #553 on: February 06, 2010, 06:40:25 pm »

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Re: Your best artifact ever
« Reply #554 on: February 06, 2010, 09:17:16 pm »

2. This artifact has a single image of itself on it, in the correct material. This is the artifact I've produced which has such an image.

The point is, even one self-image engraved results in an endless loop. Since it's got an image of itself on it, an image of it has the image of itself in the image.

There is actually one possible exception to this. Hypothetically, if you got an artifact engraving (I know this isn't possible) which depicted itself then it could in fact contain any arbitrary imagery while still maintaining self reference without becoming fractal. However, for all practical purposes, yes, any decoration which depicts the decorated object is fractal, though the more self-referential decorations there are, the more interesting the fractal is.

Wait... I have an idea...

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[SHAPE:SET_MANDELBROT]
   [NAME:Mandelbrot Set:Mandelbrot Sets]
   [ADJ:awe-inspiring]
   [ADJ:beautiful]
   [ADJ:elegant]
   [TILE:15]

Fractals within fractals!
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