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[BradB]

Can you encase goblins in obsidian? or will they vaporize as soon as they go in the magma? I want to make Han Solo style tables.

[korora]

It's actually an important distinction for concrete.  Concrete is incredibly strong in compression but really weak in tension or bending.  So concrete would be great for, say, walls and columns, and some floors, but wouldn't work at all for mechanisms (which was suggested earlier in the thread).

Also, both our posts before that were about whether concrete works in tension, so I'd say my reply was directly relevant to our discussion.

BradB: I'm pretty sure they'll vaporize, but I haven't tried it myself.

[Erom]

It's not really picky - it wasn't just a slightly off term, it was the completely opposite term. As korora noted, it probably wouldn't be worth mentioning except that it has an in game effect - used for things like mugs or mechanisms concrete wouldn't work very well, but it's just as strong as stone if used for a wall.

I think a good way to implement concrete might be to allow you to construct things out of it (walls, columns, bridges, workshops, ect.) but not allow you to use it as a workshop ingredient(mechanisms, mugs, doors, ect.)

Yes, there are some things in the masonry shop that concrete would work fine for (blocks!) but it's probably simpler to disable concrete as a workshop component in general than worry about what masonry objects you can and can't make out of it.

[Maggarg - Eater of chicke]

Hmm.
You could mould concrete blocks, or simply have masses mixed up in barrels and pour it into a hole.
I know the stasis-barrels are a bit silly, but I have no idea how else it would work.
A -Dwarven Cement Mixer- is a bit silly.

[Random832]

It's not really picky - it wasn't just a slightly off term, it was the completely opposite term. As korora noted, it probably wouldn't be worth mentioning except that it has an in game effect - used for things like mugs or mechanisms concrete wouldn't work very well, but it's just as strong as stone if used for a wall.

I think a good way to implement concrete might be to allow you to construct things out of it (walls, columns, bridges, workshops, ect.) but not allow you to use it as a workshop ingredient(mechanisms, mugs, doors, ect.)

Yes, there are some things in the masonry shop that concrete would work fine for (blocks!) but it's probably simpler to disable concrete as a workshop component in general than worry about what masonry objects you can and can't make out of it.

Really I think the way to do it is have a "concrete making workshop" - you don't make wood blocks at the masonry workshop, so why make concrete blocks there? The input is crushed stone (maybe the result of unskilled miners), lime, etc and the output is concrete blocks. You can build anything out of it that you can build from any other kind of blocks.

[Squeegy]

I think concrete should be stored in barrels and able to be used in weapon traps.

[Draco18s]

Can you encase goblins in obsidian? or will they vaporize as soon as they go in the magma? I want to make Han Solo style tables.

Water first, then the magma.

[Soadreqm]

I would suggest that we store concrete in bags and require a bucket of water to use it as a building material, but the dwarves still can't carry more than one object at a time. Besides, concrete is supposed to be easier to use for construction than raw stone. Making it harder to build things from raw stone is an option, I guess, but making aboveground construction even harder than it is now doesn't sound very fun.

It might be easier to implement after some hauling improvements.

[Silverionmox]

Concrete is only easier if you do whole appartment blocks at once. Or only need to fill a small hole. It's main attraction point is that it's fast. Quality minded dwarves would probably find it offensive, since they're quite able to produce perfectly fitting stone parts.

[Random832]

Reinforced concrete could be made with metal bars, which could matter if realistic cave-ins are implemented.