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MagicJuggler

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Easier ways to drink beer.
« on: October 17, 2008, 01:32:47 pm »

Hello everyone. Today's suggestion comes from a...sad personal experience.

I had a lot of booze. The only problem is that I didn't have enough barrels relative to the Dwarves. So several dwarves decided to drink from the barrels, leaving the rest to decide "Hey, I'm going to drink from the carp-infested AAAAAHHHHH".

This is unacceptable.

We need a better means of assigning drinks to Dwarves aside from the barrel. I know goblets have been suggested for awhile, yet I have another suggestion outright.

We need the ability to define liquids to pour into enclosed areas, and depending on the drinkability of the liquids, one can build a well over it. Different liquids can mix for hilarious results...e.g. the orange-juice and Dwarven vodka mixing to form the Screwdriver reservoir.

Additionally, one should be capable of creating a structure called a faucet, which would require a pipe and mechanism. A pipe is best described as a 1x1 (one area treated as a wall) horizontal well where one can refill buckets/cups/other containers with the liquid found inside 2 tiles away. (e.g. get liquid from left. Get liquid from right. Etc). A Dwarf Fortress is just not the same without a giant keg tower in the center of it.

Finally, we need the ability to designate waterskins for carrying booze. Or even for the comedic effect, the ability to build beer helmets.
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Re: Easier ways to drink beer.
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2008, 01:35:05 pm »

And then you can drown the goblins in beer.

Talk about dying happy.
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Re: Easier ways to drink beer.
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2008, 02:44:23 pm »

Needs to be somehow possible to protect it against evaporation. Maybe track vapor content, and in an enclosed area liquids can't evaporate once there's a certain amount of vapor per tile of air? (1/7 per 70/7 of air) - that way you'd only have a small chance of losing one unit of vapor when they open the hatch to pour in more booze.
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Re: Easier ways to drink beer.
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2008, 02:58:50 pm »

Mugs would be a preferred solution, in my book, but the ability to have massive reservoir-steins would be good.

However, it'd need some kind of downside - such as the quality dropping if not kept in a smooth-walled stone/constructed wood tank, and items falling in serving as contaminants.
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Re: Easier ways to drink beer.
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2008, 03:03:16 pm »

Personally, I think being able to create 'Beer Kegs' would be a good solution.  They would hold tremendous amounts of beer, and a dwarf would have to walk up to one with a mug to get a drink, then go over to a table where food was set down.  Should eating schedules be ever added to the game, this would be a handy innovation.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2008, 03:12:57 pm »

I know for a fact that every idea so far mentioned was previously submitted, but I cannot be bothered to find out where.

Sorry I can't contribute any more than that, I have to go now, you see. Perhaps  later.
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Re: Easier ways to drink beer.
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2008, 03:38:53 pm »

I agree with the assertion that bad wells should cause contamination. One does not want to drink from a clay-lined well, be it water or wine. On a tangential note, another issue would be protecting your supply from saboteurs whom would either poison the water or take a match to the kegs.
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Re: Easier ways to drink beer.
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2008, 04:15:57 pm »

A job at the glassmakers: make bottle. Bottled beer! Then, with the addition of paper, you could make labels, which could increase the price for trading.
This would also allow military dwarves to carry booze instead of just water.
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Re: Easier ways to drink beer.
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2008, 04:21:47 pm »

Urist McBoozewesier: The beer that never gives up on you. I like the idea of branding items.
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2008, 04:43:29 pm »

Additionally, one should be capable of creating a structure called a faucet, which would require a pipe and mechanism. A pipe is best described as a 1x1 (one area treated as a wall) horizontal well where one can refill buckets/cups/other containers with the liquid found inside 2 tiles away. (e.g. get liquid from left. Get liquid from right. Etc). A Dwarf Fortress is just not the same without a giant keg tower in the center of it.

Went to a wine tasting thing at Epcot, and the Twinings guy was there. (His last name was actually Twining)

Anywho, one of the things he talked about that really struck me was the amount of effort that went into making sure one can of tea looked pretty much like the next can of the same kind of tea.  It had to not only brew and smell the same, the leaves had to be the same colour and size, the additives needed to be the same.  Basically they spend a lot of work blending teas to get that consistancy.

Obviously our dwarves aren't the types to sacrifice top end quality to keep consistancy between two barrels of beer.

More to the point:  A barrel of booze in DF has not only type of booze, but also how old it is, how close to rotten it is, who made it, when, what quality it is, what temperature, etc etc etc.  It's the major difference between water (as a flow) and beer.  Basically, you can't just poor six barrels of beer into a vat and expect it to mix up ok.

(Although maybe giant stills would be a good bloat.  Make 5-10 barrels of beer at once!!!)

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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2008, 05:25:00 pm »

I fully support not having to fiddle around with human portioned barrels and have a more dwarf sized beer cistern with beer pumps that supply beer wells scattered around the fort.
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2008, 05:47:12 pm »

I would like to expand and combine the cistern or giant keg and faucet ideas..

It would be a 3x3 building like all the rest. I would require 4 barrels and two pipes or so maybe a mechanism. The middle would be a well looking thing and the edges would be guess what! barrels! It would hold say up to 40-50?

The dwarves would walk into the sides drink from the faucet if they wish or fill their goblet. It would feed 4 dwarves at a time normal speed and filling your cup takes a 1/20th the time. For extra awesomeness you could pick what it holds? who drinks from it? what faucet gives what?

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Using this I imagine several of these on top of each other on dif z levels with a walk way around it and stairs all over connecting to the bottom. It would be sitting smack dab in the middle of my grand dining hall (my dining halls consist of several clear z levels surrounded by balconys and stuff with the dwarves drinking and eating on the floor). Dwarves would be walking to it with their goblets and mugs filling them and returning to their tables to drink. With this added feature I think we would have true dwarven dining halls.
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Re: Easier ways to drink beer.
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2008, 05:50:35 pm »

There's another reason I want beer as a flow. Beer waterfalls for the win!
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Re: Easier ways to drink beer.
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2008, 06:56:27 pm »

Two words: Beer Hats. Or, in this case, helmets.

Make it an occasionally manufactured artifact that shortens the time a dwarf has to stop at a keg to practically nil and reduces the frequency he has to visit. Plus it would be pure awesome.
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Re: Easier ways to drink beer.
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2008, 06:57:27 pm »

On a map cold enought (not that hard for beer) you could eben build a whole fort out of beer.
That be very Dwarfy  ;D
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