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[peekama]

I've never had a megabeast. Ever.

I had a fort go 24 years once, and still nothing.
I feel like I'm missing out

[Zorgn]

You're not missing much unless you've modded them.

[Borgin]

I always imagined Bronze Colossi to be the most dangerous Megabeasts. In some of my older versions I had modded in a couple (dozen) new Megabeasts, from Black Dragons to Mythril Colossi. Basically just pumped up stats and whatnot, but I never saw them spawn (after all, this pathetic dragon WAS my first Megabeast!). Maybe I'll add them back in and gen up a new world. Too bad I'll lose my fantastic fortress.

[inaluct]

My first megabeast (a titan) busted into my fortress, killed about 10 or so dwarves and a few war dogs, got caught in a cage trap, got released, killed a peasant, and got hacked apart by my entire surviving military.

One of the first dwarves the titan killed was a marksdwarf with five children. The marksdwarve's current helpless baby died of thirst, and one of it's siblings committed suicide shortly after.

Another marksdwarf got post traumatic stress disorder and kept being "Interrupted by Titan" every single turn, even when the titan was gone. Eventually, I killed the dwarf with a wooden spike to put it out of it's misery.

Coincidentally, the titan was released and killed during several simultaneous ambushes. About 30 goblins swarmed a few of my miners and a pump operator and killed all of them. At the time, they were trying to damn a river that I had accidentally started flooding the valley with. Of course, the river did not get dammed in time, and now it would be nearly impossible to successfully dam it. My entire military was tied up at the time, so I couldn't do anything about the goblins.

Currently, I have a wall of water surging towards my biggest food stockpile's entrance. Unfortunately, my bedroom complex shares this entrance.

Ugh.

[Mephansteras]

@inaluct. Losing is fun, right?

[inaluct]

Well, worse things have happened to this fort. I think it'll survive.

[Pilsu]

[Earthquake Damage]

RE the "weak megabeast" issue

As I understand the recent dev_now update, megabeasts should become quite terrifying in the next release.  Hits that used to deal minor damage will be more likely to deal no damage, instead causing minor scratches/scars.  I suppose well-armed/extremely strong Champions and wrestler zerging (strangling is so good it's broken) may still be effective.

Actually, scratch the wrestler swarm.  Strangling just deals minor damage to the throat, so that'll probably be covered by the scarring system.  Yeah, mighty beasts of legend will probably be worthy opponents next release.

[Forumsdwarf]

The colossus is the only megabeast worthy of ph34r.  I got lucky with mine -- my fort had stood several years giving me nothing to do but re-re-reinforce the defenses.  By the time the colossus came I had every path into the fort sewn with iron axe blades, with one square in every corridor a 10-bladed "colossus killer".

It was more like a colossus wounder.  He went light gray in several places in an impressive display of indifference to axe blades, but as my dwarves swarmed it he stepped back and then forth onto the 10-blader as he maneuvered to fight my incoming soldiers.  Conservatively, then, it takes 40 giant axe blade strokes to bring down a colossus -- and they all need to happen in a very short period of time, as the colossus heals quickly.

Other megabeasts are pushovers.  Critical damage is the real problem: one spiked wooden ball stands a really good chance of crippling a dragon.  Marksdwarves will annihilate any creature that needs its internal organs intact.  Even Hydras only have 1 heart.

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I've never fought demons or devils, so I can't compare them to a colossus, but I think the wiki says they're immune to weapon and stonefall traps, so the "colossus killer" won't help you.

[Dogman]

I modded my megabeasts to be on average size 300, with 80 damblock and 6:12 base damage on their attacks. Mostly it was to help them live through world-gen. I haven't had a fort long enough to face one of these mega-megabeasts though, so I have no idea how suicidally difficult I made them.

[GlyphGryph]

HFS Spoiler:

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And get Spirits of Fire, They are actually pretty scary.  Except that they have [Sever_on_break] so they lose their heads when said head gets stabbed.  And It is very possible to mob the last 2 with 150 dwarves with minimal losses.  It would probably have been harder if I had not had such a laggy fort at that point.

Tentacle Demons did much better against my army of Untrained, Unarmed, Unarmored recruits.

Huh. I just dealt with a whole bunch of fire imps... crossbows tear them to pieces. Actually, my comp crashed halfway through and it wasn't going well, because of the demon that was with them, but when I reloaded and the demon didn't come they were almost pushovers. I DID have a champion with steel equipment and like three crossbow dwarves with steel bolts though. Still, less impossible than I imagined it would be. (and without his body shields, the demon went down the crossbowdwarves pretty quick... he took maybe two steps?)

Summary: In order for things to be tough, they obviously need some sort of resistance to crossbows. Or ranged attacks of their own.

:::gasp:::
Imagine a megabeast with some sort of multitarget crossbow type attack! Now THAT would be evil.

[MuonDecay]

Crossbows essentially are in need of some balancing, they are extremely powerful to the point of overwhelming other weapons even when they might not logically have a tactical advantage.

For example, the firing rate of a trained marksdwarf makes it so that the reload time normally exposing them to melee attacks from skirmishers is nonexistant. They spit crossbow bolts like they were watermelon seeds and they had a mouthful of them.

[NTheGreat]

The most damage a megabeast has recently done to one of my forts is when a dragon burnt down the main bridge into the fortress.

It takes far too long to build a 8 by 10 bridge out of stone blocks when there's only one dwarf doing it...

[Bricktop]

HFS Spoiler:

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And get Spirits of Fire, They are actually pretty scary.  Except that they have [Sever_on_break] so they lose their heads when said head gets stabbed.  And It is very possible to mob the last 2 with 150 dwarves with minimal losses.  It would probably have been harder if I had not had such a laggy fort at that point.

Tentacle Demons did much better against my army of Untrained, Unarmed, Unarmored recruits.

Huh. I just dealt with a whole bunch of fire imps... crossbows tear them to pieces. Actually, my comp crashed halfway through and it wasn't going well, because of the demon that was with them, but when I reloaded and the demon didn't come they were almost pushovers. I DID have a champion with steel equipment and like three crossbow dwarves with steel bolts though. Still, less impossible than I imagined it would be. (and without his body shields, the demon went down the crossbowdwarves pretty quick... he took maybe two steps?)

Fire Imps and Spirits of Fire are different things entirely...

[Efun]

NO DRAGON CAN WITHSTAND THE MIGHT OF MY CAGE TRAPS.....i love cagetraps.... only traps i use