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Rockphed

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Re: Mythbusters
« Reply #75 on: October 30, 2008, 12:31:07 am »

I just completed an experiment, and I managed to pressurize magma with a pump.
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Only vaguely. Made of the same substance and put to the same use, but a bit like comparing a castle and a doublewide trailer.

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« Reply #76 on: October 30, 2008, 12:32:51 am »

could you post a video so I can see the details of your setup?
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« Reply #77 on: October 30, 2008, 12:42:01 am »

Hmmm, video?  How do you do that?
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« Reply #78 on: October 30, 2008, 05:08:38 am »

Ok, heres a video. Can we lay this one to rest now? Magma, when pumped, can be forced to rise to the level of the pump.

http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-912-magmapumptest
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« Reply #79 on: October 30, 2008, 07:31:36 am »

Ok, heres a video. Can we lay this one to rest now? Magma, when pumped, can be forced to rise to the level of the pump.

http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-912-magmapumptest
Bravo.  I knew water would do that, but I didn't know that pumps would do the same for lava.
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"Having faith" that the bridge will not fall, implies that the bridge itself isn't that trustworthy. It's not that different from "I pray that the bridge will hold my weight."

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« Reply #80 on: October 30, 2008, 10:34:40 am »

Bravo.  I knew water would do that, but I didn't know that pumps would do the same for lava.
I've done the experiment before, and wiki-fied the results, but video does have a certain impact.

Lesson to note for would be mythbusters: "Pics or it didn't happen!"
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« Reply #81 on: October 30, 2008, 03:37:23 pm »

Hmm... did you keep a record of the outer room's value?

Just for rigor's sake - there could hypothetically have been some bug in the latest version that made engravings ineffective.

Outr room went up in value
And you redesignated both after the test?
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« Reply #82 on: October 30, 2008, 05:20:57 pm »

Engraved walls myths- supplemental.

It seems (although no pictures) it does not matter whether a wall is engraved from one side or the other.
However, if two [priced] rooms share that same wall, the value of both should drop as they now overlap.

I just realized: in order to see the price, you need a fort wit economy. Haven't gotten there yet on this build. :(

submyth: Are walls really part of the room area [base value] or external modifiers to the value?
If they are part of the area (as selection suggests) value of adjoining rooms with engraved wall should be lower than singular rooms.

Suggested test setup:
1) a singular bedroom with an engraved wall. [note value]
2) designate another bedroom using the same engraved wall from the opposite side. [note value of same room]

Walls Myth -siderailed:
"Constructed walls are of equal value as smoothed walls."

Suggested setup:
1 build a smoothed bedroom. (preferably in a single rocktype)
2 dig out walls
3 construct new walls of same material.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2008, 07:28:40 pm by Areyar »
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« Reply #83 on: October 30, 2008, 06:41:41 pm »

... Mine out a round room leaving a single column in the center... does smoothing and engraving that wall increase the value more than a single smoothed wall on the outer wall?

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« Reply #84 on: October 30, 2008, 06:59:11 pm »

That would only answer the question whether all exposed sides of a tile are counted or just the single tile.
My gut feeling answers: "it is just one tile, stupid, so no!" also it tells me cold weather is better for movement, but that is irrelevant.
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« Reply #85 on: October 30, 2008, 07:55:56 pm »

Heh, wouldn't this mythbusters be easier if this thread would be for "mythbusters ideas" then people could take myths and bust them in seperate threads. This thread is a bit messy. =/
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« Reply #86 on: November 02, 2008, 09:10:58 am »

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« Reply #87 on: November 02, 2008, 09:37:26 am »

Here's a myth - I've seen this one before, but I'm calling it a myth because I haven't been able to reproduce it and I don't know what causes it.

Myth:
High skilled masons, when constructing walls, have the ability to construct engraved walls, with the value of natural engraved walls.
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« Reply #88 on: November 02, 2008, 09:47:13 am »

This one is nearly impossiblle to debunk (baring ToadyOne giving a statement).
You can't disprove a statement like "it happens sometimes" by experimentation. A experiment can show that it is [very[very-very[-...]]] unlikely, but not that it "never happens".

Still it sound like BS, so i think it is safe to assume as such, unless someone proves that it indeed does work :p
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« Reply #89 on: November 02, 2008, 11:00:36 am »

I have only ever seen engraved, constructed walls when building over previously engraved floors.  Perhaps this is where the 'engraved constructions' myth spawns from?
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