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[webadict]

Yes, and that means that Andrea can use the religion sphere to use it, without the need for the magic sphere.

...Okay. I'm saying that it wasn't magic. Yes, you can teach them healing. No, you can't teach them magic. They're two different things. As long as it is a religious power, you can teach them it.

[Dark]

Yes that's what I meant. I'm just pointing out that channeling divine power and using magic are very similar in effect. For example, I've got the protection sphere, so I could probably show the Serani how to channel my power to create some kind of protective divine energy shield. The golems could do the exact same thing, but using magic instead of relying on a deity. For simplicity, we call one magic and the other divine magic.

[Poltifar]

Ok webadict, so they can't learn true magic from their gods. Well, what about from Golems? I'm sure they should be able to teach the Serani magic.

[webadict]

Ok webadict, so they can't learn true magic from their gods. Well, what about from Golems? I'm sure they should be able to teach the Serani magic.

The Golems would, yes. It's just that the gods don't have any true insight on Magic (unless there were some sort of Magic god...) I'm not saying the gods can't teach them powers, they just can't teach them Magic.

[Kashyyk]

is itpossible for the Entity to learn magic?

[neo1096]

Who are we still missing?

[Servant Corps]

Who are we still missing?

Omega Alpha, Rickvoid, Nilocy.

[neo1096]

Haven't seen Nilocy on the Forum lately, but Omega and rickvoid were certainly on earlier today.

[omagaalpha]

Haven't seen Nilocy on the Forum lately, but Omega and rickvoid were certainly on earlier today.

eek you mean that many people have posted already. Of course does not help most of week I was working on computer program for college class.

[andrea]

you are missing also me. i haven't posted actions and EPs yet.

[neo1096]

So:
Iituem             X
omagaalpha     X
Webadict   X
Gantolandon     X
Shikogan         X
Andrea             X
Poltifar       X
Dark              X
Kashyyk            X
Servant Corps  X
Rickvoid   
Aqizzar              X
Nilocy   

[Iituem]

So whilst we're on the topic let me voice my thoughts on this (and, as the GM, my thoughts may well become the rules unless you can give me a very good argument as to why not).

Regarding divine magic and general magic

'Magic' is a bit of a loose term, but we're going with classical high fantasy manipulation of arcane forces/breaking the laws of physics when I refer to Magic as a sphere.  The Magic sphere relates to the workings of this whole system - it is a set of skills/traits picked up by members of the species learning the tricks and passing them on.

Divine 'magic' as with Endren's attempt to create healers (more on that later) is going to depend on the source here.  If the Entity is attempting to teach a species to manipulate Magic to produce a healing effect, that is a lasting trait picked up by the species.  If the Entity is simply channelling divine power into select members of the species, then it isn't Magic under the rules but rather some manner of divine miracle.

The critical question to ask here is:  If the Entity granting the boon is destroyed, does the boon persist?  If so, then it's a trait for the species.  If not, then it's a bonus granted by the Entity.

With Endren's healers, this is going to depend.  If he is trying to teach them medicine, that is a trait that can be passed on regardless of his presence.  If he is teaching followers to channel the mysterious forces of magic into a healing capacity then that counts as a trait as well (but he needs a good reason to have access to that knowledge, such as being a deity of magic - he does not).  Plus, both of these trait forms would likely come under the Population sphere, even though the disciplines giving rise to them would come under Academic or Magic.  If, as I suspect, he is channelling divine energy into select priests to give them the power to heal the sick, that is a power directly sourced from him and doesn't count as a trait at all.


Should Endren succeed in this, I will quite likely make it such that the benefits only apply to hexes with Endren units in.  It will be quite a difficult task to accomplish, however.

[omagaalpha]

The critical question to ask here is:  If the Entity granting the boon is destroyed, does the boon persist?  If so, then it's a trait for the species.  If not, then it's a bonus granted by the Entity.

I say no given how powerful magic is I think if entity destroy then species no longer get it.

ps yes I still trying to work on RP post.

Note to neo1096 umm you spelled my user name wrong

Spoiler: Question about game? (click to show/hide)

For species you said 3 action.

What penatly happen go over that number or is anything beyond that ignored?

What do consider one action and please use example help make clear what consider one action or not ?
Like if do research in multiple different traits does that equal multiple action?
Does Colonize different area eqaul still one action?
Scout different hex equal multiple action?

[andrea]

Spoiler:  EPs (click to show/hide)

+5 village guard(T1 military gebneration)
+1 blowgun
+2 scouts[T1, population, range]

Spoiler:  actions (click to show/hide)

-serani settle E13 with 3 pop units from E11 and settle D12 with 1 pop unit from D10
-3 pop units in home hex work to find better ways to settle in new lands, by building small villages in the nearby forests. while it train settlers, this is not very dangerous, since they still get the help of the main village and the new village guards when there is danger of death.
you could call it a colonization sim
-serani build in the home hex a hut to keep the artifacts, starting from the stone. too dangerous to keep it near the fire. if possible, i use religious units to do that. if not, i'll use 2 pop units.

this turn i use a lot of pop units... more to lose, but more to get.
i hope i get good rolls. if i understood well, i get a bonus when i use more than 1 unit.
about all the RP thing, maybe i'll write later. i have much less time now.

[neo1096]

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