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[Qloos]

My fisherdwarf is named "Degel" which sounds alot like "Deagol" which is. . . uhoh

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Edit: OH SHIT THE RIVER FROZE.  DIG DIG DIG!

It froze 10 days into mid winter, so I estimate I can get 10 days of work in.  Move my minions work faster! 

God this was a slap in the face as I JUST activated my screw pumps right before the water froze.

[RPB]

Unless you seal up your tower completely and never have any contact with the world outside, I suspect the number of casualties from releasing the river to wipe out a siege will be several times higher than if you just fought the siege off yourself.

Whether or not this is a "flaw" is entirely a matter of perspective.

[Qloos]

Unless you seal up your tower completely and never have any contact with the world outside, I suspect the number of casualties from releasing the river to wipe out a siege will be several times higher than if you just fought the siege off yourself.

Whether or not this is a "flaw" is entirely a matter of perspective.

Tower entry point on a higher level then flood.  Win.

18th of mid winter.  2 days left but I'm crossing my fingers I can get it done without my dwarfs being flooded to death.

. . .aaaand YES!  It unfroze on the 22nd.  I had 11 days of work to get it done and I finished it on the 10th day. . . wait a minute, whats my woodcut- oh god.  OH NO!

Edit:  I would like to relay a discovery.  I've put an entire wall across the major river and it isn't stopping water flow.  To me more precise:  The water "spawns" it doesn't "flow"  so building a dam was pointless.  The water just spawns on both sides of the dam if removed by screw pumps etc.

What constructions prevent water spawning in its square?

[Qmarx]

I thought water spawns at one edge and gets sucked up at the other edge?

Don't you have river source tiles?  Or am I thinking of a different water flow?

[Qloos]

Maybe for performance reasons major rivers are different?

[Qmarx]

So, when it freezes in winter, what happens if you mine out ice squares?  Does water magically appear?

[Qloos]

Oddly. . . no.

[Qmarx]

Does ice designated as indoors melt?

[Qloos]

Don't think so.

[Qmarx]

Can you build a ceiling over three tiles of ice, wait until the rest melts, then mine out the center plane of ice? 


Wait a second.

Are those channels feeding into the river or draining it? 
If the river flows west to east, and the channels feed in, putting in a dam at the location shown won't do anything on its own.

I suppose in the worst case scenario you need to turn a river tile into "open space" with tweak. 

[Qloos]

I was too lazy to add the red marks to show that I was going to block those as well.

[Qmarx]

I was too lazy to add the red marks to show that I was going to block those as well.

What I mean is, if all you've blocked so far is the major river, you *should* have water spawning on both sides, regardless of whether rivers work by magical water flows appearing (which I don't think is likely, since they shut down in winter) , or water appearing at river sources on the map's edge and sinking into river end tiles.

[Qloos]

Are you suggesting water is flowing from the smaller rivers - up - the waterfall to my side of the dam?

P.S.  Ew I hit an Aquifer I didn't realize I had.

[Qmarx]

Are you suggesting water is flowing from the smaller rivers - up - the waterfall to my side of the dam?

P.S.  Ew I hit an Aquifer I didn't realize I had.

You do realize I can't see z-levels in that image...

Piercing the aquifer could definately cause that.

Failing that, try cutting it off at the waterfall itself.  Put in floors underneath, have a hanging dam.

[inaluct]

And the plot thickens...