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[penguinofhonor]

My laptop doesn't have a numpad, but I messed around with keymaps so the arrow keys work.

Also, my ghosts always seem to have the attack power that they did when they were alive with a weapon. One of them was a ghost of a character with a dagger of shocking or whatever, and I got killed because it shocked me. And then you don't get the weapon.

And the ghosts are always the same speed that I am, so I can't escape.

[wallish]

SSH-ing into akrasiac means my laptop can't fn-numpad/arrowkey move. All I can do is press the 1-9 on the regular keyboard for movement. Am I just being an idiot and missing something horribly obvious / a workaround?

How to beat ghosts : Run away.

Yeah, use the Vim keys: hjkl (left,down,up,right) & yu (up left, up right) ,bn (down left, down right).  Let's see if I can make a good diagram...

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y   k   u
  \ | /
h-  . - l
  / | \
b   j  n

Works wonders on laptops and is especially easy if you use vim.  On the plus side, if you don't use vim once you get used to these move commands using vim will be extremely easy!

[inaluct]

Man, fuck vi. Don't use those shitty keys. Just press the numbers instead of using a Num Pad. Num Lock actually does something on laptops, I heard, so you might want to look into that.

By DO NOT use the vim keys. Just using the number bar is less counter intuitive than that crap.

FFFFFFFFFFF-

AAARRGH

[Skeeblix]

Not our fault you lack the brainpower to memorize some easy keystrokes =P

[Cthulhu]

I agree with Inaluct, I play in the dark, and my hand tends to slip off of the VIM keys.  The number line is much better.

[Boksi]

Why should I have to memorize them? They make very little sense at all.

Better to have the numpad or in a pinch the number line.

[Hawkfrost]

Numpad is your friend.

And hill orc priests are almost rigged.

Mountain Dwarves are tanks.
I got a few pretty far before death (Damn you Sigmund, orc swarms and electric eels!).

[Puck]

Okay, I tried it, and I'm having fun so far.

Here's the summary of the most successful dungeon crawler I made so far.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

860 Hao Tsu the Grappler (level 10, -2/95 HPs)
             Began as a Troll Monk on Nov 2, 2008.
             Was an Elder of Nemelex Xobeh.
             Slain by an orange rat (8 damage)
             ... on Level 1 of the Elven Halls.
             The game lasted 02:14:00 (10781 turns).


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have claws for hands.
Your body does not fit into most forms of armour.
You heal very quickly.
Your metabolism is lightning-fast.
You can eat rotten meat.
You like to eat raw meat.
You are covered in fur.
You are partially covered in supple grey scales (AC + 1).
Your body is slowly deteriorating.
You are partially covered in orange scales (AC + 1).


Last Moments :

You see a runed elven long sword here.
There is something else lying underneath.
a - a plain deck of cards (in hand) {god gift}
The orange rat bites you!
You feel drained.
You are now level 10!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *

You could see a giant bat, an elf zombie, a grey rat, a green rat, an orange rat, an ufetubus, a deep elf soldier, and a deep elf summoner.


Notes
Turn   | Place   | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1     | Hao Tsu, the Troll Monk, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1     | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 0/0
   302 | D:1     | Reached XP level 2. HP: 23/25 MP: 0/0
   837 | D:1     | Reached XP level 3. HP: 29/34 MP: 1/1
   957 | D:2     | Noticed an imp
   965 | D:2     | Defeated an imp
  1132 | D:2     | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in orange scales (AC + 1).
  1132 | D:2     | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in supple grey scales (AC + 1).
  1320 | D:2     | Reached XP level 4. HP: 40/42 MP: 1/1
  1485 | D:2     | Reached skill 1 in Stealth
  2007 | D:2     | Noticed Ijyb
  2020 | D:2     | Defeated Ijyb
  2595 | D:3     | Reached skill 5 in Unarmed Combat
  2706 | D:3     | Reached XP level 5. HP: 48/50 MP: 1/1
  3552 | D:4     | Noticed Sigmund
  3682 | D:4     | Defeated Sigmund
  3790 | D:4     | Got a crude garnet amulet
  3839 | D:4     | Identified the amulet "Qeor Chai" (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)
  3920 | D:4     | Reached XP level 6. HP: 33/56 MP: 2/2
  4024 | D:4     | Reached skill 6 in Unarmed Combat
  4357 | Temple  | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4653 | Temple  | Became a worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh
  4725 | D:5     | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4771 | D:5     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  4892 | D:5     | Noticed Edmund
  4908 | D:5     | Defeated Edmund
  4908 | D:5     | Reached XP level 7. HP: 57/65 MP: 2/2
  5505 | D:5     | Reached skill 7 in Unarmed Combat
  6465 | D:7     | Reached XP level 8. HP: 69/72 MP: 2/2
  6501 | D:7     | Reached skill 8 in Unarmed Combat
  6505 | D:7     | Reached skill 5 in Dodging
  6705 | D:7     | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's first power
  6705 | D:7     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  6899 | D:7     | Reached skill 9 in Unarmed Combat
  7199 | D:7     | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's second power
  7226 | D:8     | Reached XP level 9. HP: 62/81 MP: 3/3
  7760 | D:8     | Noticed Blork the orc
  7772 | D:8     | Defeated Blork the orc
  7940 | D:8     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  7957 | D:8     | Reached XP level 10. HP: 85/88 MP: 3/3
  7958 | D:8     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 92/95 MP: 3/3
  7959 | D:8     | Gained mutation: You are clumsy (Dex -1).
  7960 | D:8     | Lost mutation: You are clumsy (Dex -1).
  7962 | D:8     | Gained mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating.
  8274 | D:8     | Reached skill 1 in Evocations
  8276 | D:8     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  8312 | D:8     | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's third power
  8430 | D:8     | Reached skill 5 in Fighting
  8560 | D:9     | Reached skill 10 in Unarmed Combat
  8698 | D:9     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  9043 | D:9     | Reached skill 11 in Unarmed Combat
  9239 | D:9     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  9281 | Orc:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
  9604 | Orc:3   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  9725 | Orc:4   | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
  9762 | Orc:3   | Reached skill 12 in Unarmed Combat
  9883 | Orc:3   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 10330 | Orc:4   | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's fourth power
 10330 | Orc:4   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 10354 | Elf:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 10653 | Elf:1   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 10781 | Elf:1   | Reached XP level 10. HP: 6/95 MP: 2/2
 10781 | Elf:1   | Slain by an orange rat

But I have a question: I'd like to make a monk and -hopefully- get him a blowgun.
Can I attack while wielding the blowgun and still train "unarmed combat" that way?

Does anybody know how that works? I didn't find anything on the wiki.
(And yes, I know there's a quick key for changing weapons, but I'd like to imagine him using the blowgun, like a 70ties-kung-fu-movie-kung-fu-master fighting with his opium pipe)

Oh, and another question: are there more complex roguelikes with -gasp- tilesets?
Mock me, but I don't like ascii display. I prefer tilesets, it's faster to get into the game imho. And another plus: everything reminds me of Ultima V that way

Anyways, I did a quick google for Incursion and didnt find any tilesets.
But Crawl is nice, anyway.

[Virroken]

Clarification for my laptop numpad problems:

I actually don't have a numpad. I have a function key that lets me use part of the keyboard as the numpad.

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7 8 9    7 8 9
u i o    4 5 6
j k l    1 2 3
So fn-i  makes 5.

Numlock on and off both haven't worked. I guess key remapping is the only way out.

[Zako]

I currently have a minotaur bezerker that I'm at level 9 of the dungeon with.

Trog is SO much better than Owakaru-whatsisname. Much simpler and more effective that that so called god.

Wish me luck!

[inaluct]

Well, Mummy Berserkers can't go berserk. There goes my epic "I'll just sacrifice EVERYTHING to Trog" strategy. At least there are Death Knights.

[wallish]

Man, fuck vi. Don't use those shitty keys. Just press the numbers instead of using a Num Pad. Num Lock actually does something on laptops, I heard, so you might want to look into that.

By DO NOT use the vim keys. Just using the number bar is less counter intuitive than that crap.

FFFFFFFFFFF-

AAARRGH

You might be trolling, but why do the vi keys piss you off so much?  Vi is an awesome editor, the original Rogue, Nethack, and many other Rogue-likes use the vi keys.  They're awesome just like vi/vim is awesome.

I agree with Inaluct, I play in the dark, and my hand tends to slip off of the VIM keys.  The number line is much better.

How do your fingers slip off since J is a home key? 

Whatever, to each his/her own.  I like the vi keys because I use vim all the time so I've gotten used to those for directions.  It would seem like using the number line would be a lot harder than the vi keys, which only require about two minutes of learning to use.

[inaluct]

Basically, I don't use or like vi. I've always seen the vi-like keys as a little bit unnecessary, as well. I mean, almost no one who doesn't use vi uses them and those that do use vi usually don't need them. I was being somewhat hyperbolic in my last post, but I do find it irritating when vi keys are the only option available, which fortunately is rarely the case.

I hope no hardcore emacs users are reading this topic, lying in wait to start an Editor War.

[Virroken]

Crawl is the coolest game EVER.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

82216 Gimili the Hacker (level 15, 122/122 HPs)
             Forgot to breathe
             ... caused by an orange crystal statue

[Puck]

Let me just quickly shameless-plug my last post http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=25994.msg317571#msg317571

the most important part for me would be the question:
what exactly happens when you melee with your ranged weapon?