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[Thingy Master]

I have found a workaround to allow your dwarves to use melee weapons associated with other skills than the ones you can select in the military page.

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It's rather simple. I figured out wile trying to make true throwing weapons (unsuccessfully) that ranged weapons use their ammo skill type when firing, but revert to their actual weapon skill type when out of ammo.

So what you want to do is something like this.

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[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_DAGGER_LARGE]
[NAME:dagger:daggers]
[ADJECTIVE:large]
[DAMAGE:70:SLASH]
[RANGED:SWORD:BOLT]
[WEIGHT:20]
[SKILL:DAGGER]
[CRIT_BOOST:1]
[TWO_HANDED:3]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:3]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]

Note that the actual weapon type is dagger wile the ammo uses the sword skill.
Since your dwarves equip ranged weaponry based on what skill the ammo has you'll be able to equip weapons that use the dagger skill when you tell them to equip swords.

In order to avoid them actually using the ammo to fire (which would look really retarded) I simply did not give the entity entry for this weapon an ammo type underneath it.

I just found this out about 5 min ago so it might not work in all circumstances.
Comments greatly appreciated.

[Aqizzar]

That's awesome man.  Nice bit of scientific research there, and oh so obvious now that I've seen it.  Pikedwarves.  Cool.

[Thingy Master]

Wow, This workaround is better than I thought.

You can actually have non-military skill weapons now.
Check out my fishing dagger.

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[Dude_Jebawe]

That's sweet, dood.

Now, I'm gonna go see if I can use this bit of knowledge to improve my game experience..

[Erom]

I guess the only downside is that when told to equip swords, they'll now equip knives or swords, which would be a pain if you _actually_ want them to just use swords. More of the old forbid-equip dance with weapons I suppose.

[Duke 2.0]

 ...

 *Messes with the raws*

 So theoretically, Humans can use bows? Sweet.

[Kagus]

I guess the only downside is that when told to equip swords, they'll now equip knives or swords, which would be a pain if you _actually_ want them to just use swords. More of the old forbid-equip dance with weapons I suppose.

Yes, it's a pain.  But this is Dwarf Fortress.  "With great pain comes great potential".


This is brilliant work.  Have you checked to see what happens when you start an adventurer with that skill?  You might get some unusual effects...

Also, how does this work with sparring?

[Footkerchief]

Haha, that's clever as hell.

Adding the RANGED tag also allows you to make those weapons out of wood or bone at a bowyer's.  Bone daggers have a certain appeal, don't they?

[Greiger]

*Imagines somebody making a staff that uses druid skill*

[Boksi]

Easy peasy:

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_STAFF_DRUID]
[NAME:druid staff:druid staves]
[DAMAGE:100:BLUDGEON]
[WEIGHT:70]
[RANGED:HAMMER:BOLT]
[SKILL:DRUID]
[TWO_HANDED:7]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:7]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:2]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

That ought to cut it. I'm not sure though. Will test it later.



EDIT: This isn't quite working, but I think I've got the problems down. Wait a few tics.

[Footkerchief]

Is there still a Druid skill hardcoded in somewhere?

[i2amroy]

That shouldn't work as druid is not a military skill. The best that you could do would be to pick some other type of skill and then change it's name to druid. This has some problems though, with anything that is renamed changing back to its original 'master' title (swordmaster, hammerlord, etc.) except for bows and crossbows.

[Footkerchief]

That shouldn't work as druid is not a military skill. The best that you could do would be to pick some other type of skill and then change it's name to druid. This has some problems though, with anything that is renamed changing back to its original 'master' title (swordmaster, hammerlord, etc.) except for bows and crossbows.

Strangely enough it seems to work -- see Thingy Master's most recent post in this thread.  Also, picks already have [SKILL:MINER].

[Boksi]

Alright, here we go:

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_STAFF_DRUID]
[NAME:druid staff:druid staves]
[DAMAGE:100:BLUDGEON]
[WEIGHT:70]
[RANGED:HAMMER:BLOWDART]
[SKILL:MAGIC_NATURE]
[TWO_HANDED:5]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:6]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:2]
[STICK_CHANCE:0]

That's the item entry and it's small enough for dwarves to use.

Furthermore, you need to add the following to the entity:

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_STAFF_DRUID]
[PERMITTED_JOB:DRUID]

That ought to cut it. I had to search out the list of skills to figure that out though. If somebody else wants it, I'll post it.

[Wiles]

Will making it a ranged weapon stop them from sparring,  though?